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Post subject: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:59 am
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Has anyone else experienced the switch/amp locking up? (won't change patches). Also, the other night it just went black like the power went off. The amp still worked though, I could hear sound but none of the switches were responsive. I gig with this amp and can't have this.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:05 am
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Did you, perhaps, plug the 4-button switch in the 2-button jack...or another jack for that matter?

I've heard stories about people in a hurry plugging stuff into the wrong jack. That's why as soon as I got my Mustang 5, I bought some red and white jack nuts and put red nuts on the speaker outputs and white nuts on the pedal jacks so I won't make that mistake myself. Now the back of the M5 looks like the back of my Marshall JVM. I did the same to the back of my Lead 12 3005 Microstack (marked the speaker jacks red).

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:09 am
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I guess that's possible although it was working fine for most of the night. Great suggestion about marking the jacks (hmm..and possiblly the cords). Thanks.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:15 pm
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Yeah, this is the back of my Mustang V amp head now.

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I was surprised at just how hard it was to find a company that actually had those nuts for sale, so I ordered more than I needed so I'd have spares. I only got 2 white ones, though. I have 6 more red ones on the shelf.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:01 pm
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Nice. Could you share where you go them from?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:30 pm
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http://www.amprepairparts.com/jacks.htm

If you scroll down the page about 2/3 of the way down, you'll see the white plastic nut. When I called these guys on the phone, they said they had red and white, so I ordered over the phone and got 2 white and 10 red. Perhaps I could have gotten more white ones, but I really didn't need them. I was using the back of my Marshall JVM amp as a color-code. They mark their speaker jacks with red and the footswitch jack with white. The effects loops all get black (which are already there anyway) so that's how I colored all my other amps.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:28 pm
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This thread totally got hi jacked....


OP: My 4 button switch does the same thing. Usually I will use it for an hour or so and then touch something on the amp control panel and the display will either go black, or it will "freeze" on whatever lights are on. Sometime it still even works without the lights updating! Unplugging the cable or resetting the amp power usually fixes it.

FENDER PLEASE FIX THIS!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:14 pm
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UPDATE: Another weird thing keeps happening. I use the QA presets (Mode one) a lot. Sometimes when I press Q3 (the one all the way to the right) it jumps to #10 preset. This sucks as Q3 is my solo preset. Is this unit defective? Is anyone having similar problems. Am I doing something wrong? Not happy.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:43 pm
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The other night at rehersal, I experienced a similar problem with my 4- button FS. I was going to use the tuner, held down the far left button, and poof....not lights, no response, nothing. I was in a hurry and hooked it up using a different cord. When I went back to the factory issued cord, no problems at all. Other than that one hiccup, the thing has worked flawlessly.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:11 pm
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That's interesting because I am not using
The cord that came with it. I wonder if that's
It , although I can't imagine why the cord
Would make a difference.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:45 pm
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Because the 4-button and 2-button footswitches are sending a digital signal to the amp, not a hard-coded electric circuit like the Mustang 1 and 2 use for their one-button footswitch. As a result, the data packet needs to be carried over a wire that's sensitive enough to not screw it up (like the one Fender sent with the amp). Some other cables may be used to carrying an analog signal (sound). Speaker cables are definitely out of the question for this purpose, but you might be able to use a decent instrument cable. Notice that the supplied Fender cable is unshielded and not built nearly as robust as good instrument and speaker cables are.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:28 am
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I have noticed a few times that while in mode 1 with 3 patches on the three buttons I will end up with two patches lit up and have to hit one or the other a couple of times to get it back to normal.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:01 am
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I have the mustang V and use the 2 and 4 button footswitches with it and i can remember a few months back that i had a problem with the led display going blank but the footswitch seemed to work on preset changes,i am not having problems now with it,maybe it is because i updated to the latest 1.9 firmware?

I would like to see fender come out with a all in one footswitch controller for the MIII-V instead of or along with using the 2 and 4 button footswitches and also now having to buy the separate expression pedal for your mustang,there is too many things that can go wrong with all these wire connections for three separate pedals.

A single footswitch controller just makes more sense and would be more user friendly to use,fender can also add a lcd display so you can see the names of your preset patches and of course the expression pedal would be built in to it.

Maybe fender could design a footswitch controller like this to hook up to the usb port on the mustang? What do you guy's think about this idea?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:25 am
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Metalman50 wrote:

Maybe fender could design a footswitch controller like this to hook up to the usb port on the mustang? What do you guy's think about this idea?

Like the idea of an all in one, maybe based on the floor with all the switching but not the brain. Don't like the USB especially if you are going to play live, much to flimsy and breakable.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 4 button switch problems
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:33 am
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Yeah, but those kinds of ideas, while good, would require a redesign of the amp itself to accomodate those things, so we're not going to be able to see those.

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