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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:05 pm
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Absolutely Yes.
I have the MIII.
For me it is a "must have" amp if you search for versatility, from beautiful clean to deep distortion, with an easy and user friendly interface.
I am still impressed on how I can get so much different sound out of this box.
Lots of very good effects included that gives you the ability to build YOUR sounds.

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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:07 am
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I would recommend the Mustang as a backup amp or a practice amp or as an amp for a guitar player just starting out.

As for being a serious gigging amp, it lacks too many features for me to recommend it.

Specifically:

The combos need an external speaker jack, and an impedance switch for driving various combinations of speakers and cabs.

The headphone jack should be a full-sized 1/4".

The jacks should not be plastic.

The fizz needs to be fixed, even if that means a more expensive power supply or whatever is causing the fizz.

Everything on the III-IV should be able to be edited on the LCD screen--no computer should be necessary.

The amp should be repairable and the components should be replaceable. What's the use of buying an amp that's disposable? What's going to happen if it breaks after the product has been discontinued and your five-year warranty is up? You have no choice but to junk the whole thing.

The current Mustangs are a novelty amp. I would bet though that Fender will one day incorporate the Mustang modeling technology into some high-power professional amps, either with or without tubes--or both--such as they have done on a smaller scale with the Super Champ.

That's when I'll recommend the Mustang.


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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:38 am
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jwoertz wrote:
In ten years, the Mustang series will be just a pathetic memory we'll all shake our heads at, saying "why did we put up with Fender not fixing that fizz?"


jwoertz, every time Microsoft releases a new edition of Windows, there are a group of people out there who buy it early, and declare it a turd before Microsoft can address any issues that come up. Try a brand new installation of Windows XP with no updates installed and run it along side an XP computer with all updates installed, and see if you notice a difference in performance. This is just the way it's done with computers, since Microsoft can't test their OS on every single piece of hardware in the world including hardware which hasn't even been released yet.

In the case of the Mustang III+, I think a small group of loud-mouthed customers got into the mindset of "thing thing's a piece of crap" before it really had a chance. When you're talking about the Mustang series, you're talking about basically a computer slapped on top of an amplifier. This is fairly new territory for Fender, and overall I'd say they did an amazing job. And I am very satisfied with the latest firmware release v1.9.

I would DEFINITELY recommend this amp as a cost effective way of getting some good tone, nice and loud.


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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:11 am
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cormorant wrote:
As for being a serious gigging amp, it lacks too many features for me to recommend it.


cormorant wrote:
The combos need an external speaker jack, and an impedance switch for driving various combinations of speakers and cabs.


I think the point of the different models is you only buy what you need, since other than features like you are referring to, they are pretty identical. So in other words, if you want an external speaker jack, buy the Mustang V.

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The jacks should not be plastic.


Agreed

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The fizz needs to be fixed, even if that means a more expensive power supply or whatever is causing the fizz.


Personally I'm not convinced the power amp is a problem.

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Everything on the III-IV should be able to be edited on the LCD screen--no computer should be necessary.


OK fair enough, although in my case, I find making so many parameter changes in fine detail like that using a button/knob/dial interface maddening. I's SO been waiting for something like FUSE. And personally I would only make such fine changes at home, where my computer is right next to my amp. At a gig I might tweak volume, reverb, gain, that's about it...

cormorant wrote:
The amp should be repairable and the components should be replaceable. What's the use of buying an amp that's disposable?


Think COMPUTERS. In 5 years, I don't want this one anymore, because the new ones can do more. It's like that.

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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:41 am
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I like this guy already.

I agree with Strings10927. This thing may be sold as a guitar amp, but it really is a computer processor attached to a power amp and a speaker. A lot of people seem to forget this fact when complaining about the amp and how it doesn't be have like a traditional amp or the controls aren't as easy to use or what-have-you.

I'll give you a small example. I just got back from a convention where I had set up my laptop and a screen with a repeating slide-show presentation. Now, did I wait until I got there to try to make the presentation? No. I set that up days before so that when I GOT to the convention, all I had to do was maybe a few tweaks and then I was good. Same thing with the Mustang amp. It's a computer, so you need to set up your presets BEFORE you try to gig with it. It's not Fender's fault people can't plan ahead.

"But what about if the sound is totally different when you get to the venue." Hmmm. Yeah, the venue, people, size of the room, etc. do play a large part in shaping your tone. However, any REAL professional would have gone to the venue in advance to help figure that out, especially knowing you have to set up your Mustang amp beforehand. At least, that's what I would have done. This way, only tiny/minor tweaks would need to be made, not major ones. And those are easily done without a computer hooked up with the larger combos and the M5 head.

About the speaker jacks being plastic, I'm trying to figure out what the problem here is and how it has anything to do with it being a professional gigging amp. I have a $2,000 Marshall JVM410 head and all of its jacks are black plastic too, just like the jacks on the Mustang 5. Do I complain about them? No. I'm sorry about whoever else has messed them up, but when I buy something for that kind of money, I'm inclined to take a few extra seconds with my setup to make sure I don't break anything.

That being said, if you're referring to the headphone and aux jacks being the 1/16" and very flimsy, then yes. I totally agree with you here. Those jacks are incredibly sensitive to rough handling and even people who have taken very good care of them have still had those jacks break off the PCB. And all Fender wants to do is replace the whole unit (along with all of your saved presets gone...).

The fizz IS a headache of a problem for people who use the Mustang amps to play clean tones. Yes, the fizz is only in a small minority of buyers, but they DID buy an amp that's supposed to play clean tones (half of the Fender models, ok?). The fizz kinda ruins that effect. Then again, I've already made my position clear on this point. If you REALLY wanted a clean tone, you'd have gotten a real guitar amp and not an amp modeller with a possible fizz issue. I myself have not had the fizz problem with my Mustang V head and I consider myself kinda lucky, but I tend to play high-gain stuff more anyway so I probably wouldn't notice if I had fizz anyway.

Enough typing. Guys, just set your amps up for the sounds you need before you go to a gig and you won't have as many problems with the amp. There is no replacement for planning and foresight and I have very little tolerance for people who complain when the product they're trying to use requires a bit of thought to use properly. Get a DSL. Apparently, all the Marshall monkeys get those because they're "easy" to dial in.

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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:14 am
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Have recommended them several times, from my MII and after I upgraded to the MIII. Can't think of a better home/practice amp and have gigged it also with great results.


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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:15 pm
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FFXIhealer wrote:
....if you're referring to the headphone and aux jacks being the 1/16" and very flimsy, then yes. I totally agree with you here.


yeah I guess it's not the fact that it's plastic so much as the numerous reports of them breaking. I'd take one made of tofu if it was durable -lol. I always get nervous with those tiny plugs in general, that's 'home stereo' type stuff, I just wish they had made it 1/4". But at the price I really can't even complain, I just can't believe I found an amp this good for this cheap!

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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:29 pm
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I'm just learning mine. If you get a good buy, then jump on it. i can't see dumping a fortune for these amps though. It is a nice toy!


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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:00 pm
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It's an awesome toy. I certainly love playing with it.

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Post subject: Re: Would you recommend a Mustang to others?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:45 pm
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I love my M III, so many great tones for a small price, I also have the 4 button footswitch (must have for me). I've had it for about nine months and I do have the fizz intermittently, it seems to be on clean tones and I've also noticed it with high gain settings when I have my Strat volume control pretty low. It's not a big problem for me since I usually play with distortion.

When you consider all the pedals you'd have to buy to get what's included in the Mustangs, I think it's a great value.


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