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Post subject: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:55 pm
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Just for the record, I am NOT in any way trying to troll. I am not a fan of the Spider amps, but, I had been using a Spider 3 prior to getting rid of it and buying my Mustangs. I own the II and the III, I use the II for practice and noodling, and the III for gigs.
Best money I ever spent. LOVE these amps.
But, I was curious about something. I understand that the 4 button / 2 button FS can be used in combo to control the MIII, but I have been wondering why Fender didn't make / doesn't make a floor controller along the same lines as the Line 6 floorboards? Seems to me that ONE controller that can control all the parameters / effects / etc of the amp would be a much more convenient method of using the amp. Idk, maybe I am missing something.
Maybe Fender doesn't want to emulate any other companies, and I guess I can understand that, but all the same I am curious as to whether or not we will ever see something like that, just one controller that has all the functions on it, exp pedal, bank up down, preset access, tuner, stomp on / off, etc.
Any thoughts ? Or am I just being thick and stupid ?


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:37 am
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I'll take your "no troll" statement at face value,
is this device what you are suggesting?

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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:08 pm
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Loz, I was wondering the exact same thing you are. I came from a Vypyr with a Sanpera II that provided (as best as I can tell!) most of the functionality of the Line 6 shortboard.

My biggest problem is I'm playing in a cover band so I'm juggling 25 or so patches. I use both the 2 and 4 button footswitches together, but it's a total pain when I need to get from, say, patch #1 to patch #23. Plus without an LED display on the footswitch I have to step back to the amp if I want to verify that patch #23 is indeed "Clean w/chorus", not "Ultra Death Metal Crunch". On the Sanpera that patches were lumped into groups of four so I'd set up groups per song as needed and it was quick to switch between the groups. It's the one thing I miss about the Vypyr + Sanpera II.

What I *don't* miss is the amp locking up in the middle of a show or the lack of software support from Peavey: the last non-beta firmware update was two years ago and they have absolutely nothing on the order of FUSE.

Ben

P.S. If anyone has some good suggestions how they manage 25+ patches live I'm all ears! Right now I have to write patch numbers next to each song in the setlist and configured the Quick Access buttons to get me between the start, middle, and end of the range. It works, but it's far from optimal.


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:28 pm
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There is that open source PLUG application. I bet somebody could cook something up with that code. Strip everything out except the part that selects a preset, cook up some sort simple big number pad Android application and control the amp from your phone, lol.


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:12 pm
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lozguitarist wrote:
Just for the record, I am NOT in any way trying to troll. I am not a fan of the Spider amps, but, I had been using a Spider 3 prior to getting rid of it and buying my Mustangs. I own the II and the III, I use the II for practice and noodling, and the III for gigs.
Best money I ever spent. LOVE these amps.
But, I was curious about something. I understand that the 4 button / 2 button FS can be used in combo to control the MIII, but I have been wondering why Fender didn't make / doesn't make a floor controller along the same lines as the Line 6 floorboards? Seems to me that ONE controller that can control all the parameters / effects / etc of the amp would be a much more convenient method of using the amp. Idk, maybe I am missing something.
Maybe Fender doesn't want to emulate any other companies, and I guess I can understand that, but all the same I am curious as to whether or not we will ever see something like that, just one controller that has all the functions on it, exp pedal, bank up down, preset access, tuner, stomp on / off, etc.
Any thoughts ? Or am I just being thick and stupid ?


It sounds to me like the Mustang Floor is exactly what you're asking for.

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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:50 pm
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Loren Howard - Fender wrote:

It sounds to me like the Mustang Floor is exactly what you're asking for.


thanks for the reply, but, I have to admit I am more lost now. I see nothing about the Mustang Floor being able to control the Mustang amp in that fashion, it looks just like a Mustang amp without the speaker and power-amp. So, in other words, I would have to drop another 300 PLUS shell out for a FRFR to fully use the Floor.
Don't get me wrong, I would fly out in a heartbeat and buy the floor if it did control the amp in this fashion, but according to the manual I checked out, it doesn't do that.

Am I missing something ? Thanks !


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:15 am
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No, you're not missing anything, Loz. The Floor cannot control the amps. The reality of it is that the amps were never designed to be controlled by a pedal the way a Peavey Vyper is. The Mustang amps and the Mustang Floor are completely discreet devices. Sure you can plug the pedal's output into the amp's input but that's about it.

I do wish Fender would design a pedal that connects via the amps' USB port so that you can change presets on it the way a computer does. It would allow the user instantaneous access to ALL of the presets in the amp.

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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:59 am
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Hey Lozguitarist,

See my post titled "Mustang floor into Mustang IV". It features an absolutely cherished response from Fender.

I have raised the same concern about the floor controllers and there short-comings on a few posts here as have many others.

These Fender control boards are an absolute pain live on stage. many have asked for a decent multi-function board to control these amps and what response did we get from Fender. "The Mustang Floor" yet another product to blow your hard earned cash on.

But lets face it. As a company, you don't earn dollars by spending too much time on a customer whose dollars you have already secured. Better to create another product and chase down some new greedy green dollars.

So Alan / Loren, stick it were you deserve it, I just found a product that will do what I need and a company that for the moment at least, does listen to it's customers.

8beggars


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:28 am
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lozguitarist wrote:
Loren Howard - Fender wrote:

It sounds to me like the Mustang Floor is exactly what you're asking for.


thanks for the reply, but, I have to admit I am more lost now. I see nothing about the Mustang Floor being able to control the Mustang amp in that fashion, it looks just like a Mustang amp without the speaker and power-amp. So, in other words, I would have to drop another 300 PLUS shell out for a FRFR to fully use the Floor.
Don't get me wrong, I would fly out in a heartbeat and buy the floor if it did control the amp in this fashion, but according to the manual I checked out, it doesn't do that.

Am I missing something ? Thanks !


I must have misunderstood your post, Loz. My apologies.

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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:32 am
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8beggars wrote:
Hey Lozguitarist,

See my post titled "Mustang floor into Mustang IV". It features an absolutely cherished response from Fender.

I have raised the same concern about the floor controllers and there short-comings on a few posts here as have many others.

These Fender control boards are an absolute pain live on stage. many have asked for a decent multi-function board to control these amps and what response did we get from Fender. "The Mustang Floor" yet another product to blow your hard earned cash on.

But lets face it. As a company, you don't earn dollars by spending too much time on a customer whose dollars you have already secured. Better to create another product and chase down some new greedy green dollars.

So Alan / Loren, stick it were you deserve it, I just found a product that will do what I need and a company that for the moment at least, does listen to it's customers.

8beggars


What product would that be, 8beggars?

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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:55 am
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lozguitarist wrote:
Loren Howard - Fender wrote:

It sounds to me like the Mustang Floor is exactly what you're asking for.


thanks for the reply, but, I have to admit I am more lost now. I see nothing about the Mustang Floor being able to control the Mustang amp in that fashion, it looks just like a Mustang amp without the speaker and power-amp. So, in other words, I would have to drop another 300 PLUS shell out for a FRFR to fully use the Floor.
Don't get me wrong, I would fly out in a heartbeat and buy the floor if it did control the amp in this fashion, but according to the manual I checked out, it doesn't do that.

Am I missing something ? Thanks !


How about using a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter and plugging the Floorboard into the Mustang's CD/Aux input (bypassing the Mustang pre-amp)?

Do you think that would work?

Tom


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:18 pm
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tomtheguitarguy wrote:
lozguitarist wrote:
Loren Howard - Fender wrote:

It sounds to me like the Mustang Floor is exactly what you're asking for.


thanks for the reply, but, I have to admit I am more lost now. I see nothing about the Mustang Floor being able to control the Mustang amp in that fashion, it looks just like a Mustang amp without the speaker and power-amp. So, in other words, I would have to drop another 300 PLUS shell out for a FRFR to fully use the Floor.
Don't get me wrong, I would fly out in a heartbeat and buy the floor if it did control the amp in this fashion, but according to the manual I checked out, it doesn't do that.

Am I missing something ? Thanks !


How about using a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter and plugging the Floorboard into the Mustang's CD/Aux input (bypassing the Mustang pre-amp)?

Do you think that would work?

Tom


I think you misunderstand what the OP is asking. He is asking about controlling the MV via a foot controller. You can't do that via the 1/8" input.

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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:40 am
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Orcatraz wrote:
tomtheguitarguy wrote:
lozguitarist wrote:

thanks for the reply, but, I have to admit I am more lost now. I see nothing about the Mustang Floor being able to control the Mustang amp in that fashion, it looks just like a Mustang amp without the speaker and power-amp. So, in other words, I would have to drop another 300 PLUS shell out for a FRFR to fully use the Floor.
Don't get me wrong, I would fly out in a heartbeat and buy the floor if it did control the amp in this fashion, but according to the manual I checked out, it doesn't do that.

Am I missing something ? Thanks !


How about using a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter and plugging the Floorboard into the Mustang's CD/Aux input (bypassing the Mustang pre-amp)?

Do you think that would work?

Tom


I think you misunderstand what the OP is asking. He is asking about controlling the MV via a foot controller. You can't do that via the 1/8" input.

O.


No, I didn't misunderstand.

With the new Floorboard, he wouldn't have to control his Mustang - he would be using the Floorboard itself. I was however commenting that he wouldn't have to go out an buy a FRFR amp - he could go through the 1/8" input, use the floorboard for this presets and then later just the Mustang itself if he just wanted to fiddle around with it and not take out/hook up extra.

Tom


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Post subject: Re: Line 6-esque floor controller ?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:02 pm
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No, he means a better controller for the Mustang amps (like the Line 6 Floorboard, not something like a POD HD).

At least that's how I understand it....

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I'll take your "no troll" statement at face value,
is this device what you are suggesting?

http://www.fender.com/products/mustang/ ... No=2301060


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