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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:56 am
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Seems like you did not read at all what i wrote, thank you for you attention. Also thank you for labelling me "nuts", without considering at all what i wrote. You are a wise and kind person. My only complain is that shurely you nver read this post too!

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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:54 am
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I'm with you, Mordor...but I don't think these guys really understand what we're saying....whether they're not reading our entire posts, or just have brain block, I'm not sure. They don't seem to get that we're not complaining, that we're trying to provide insight to someone who's thinking of buying one, or even input for Fender (if they're even paying attention!) But you know, whatever...it's okay.

Like you, the only reason I bought the Mustang I was because of Fuse...if that wasn't an option, I would never have even considered buying this amp. And with Fuse, I find the amp is fairly satisfying as a practice amp. And when I connected it to a better speaker, my satisfaction came up another notch.

And like Orcatraz, once I got my main tones set, I rarely need to hook up to FUSE. However, I will refute this notion that tube amps are not stable. The only reason I ever tweak the settings on my tube amps are when I'm using different guitars or going for a specific sound, otherwise my tones are very consistent from day to day, week to week, etc. There may have been some truth to that for older amps whose components were subject to more lenient tolerances, or if it has old caps that need replacing. But most modern tube amps are quite reliable.

So yeah, I don't regret buying the MI and I feel it was a good value, but at the same time I cannot say it's the best $100 amp you can buy.


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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:44 pm
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Muleya wrote:
...but at the same time I cannot say it's the best $100 amp you can buy.

Oh well, so wich one is a better value Sir? How many modeling amps under $100 have you tried? Wich one is the best?
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Why do you bought this one instead of a better one?
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Really guys, this thread is useless. A mustang I or II with more features at the same price? Come on, you're not serious!


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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:41 pm
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Stratquebec,don't you think these guy's should have started a thread here about comparing the features of the mustang I & II to the vypyr 15 & 30w and also the line 6 spider IV 15 & 30w amps rather then what you dislike about the mustang 1 & 2 amps? This would be much more informative to anyone considering these amps and then you could debate over wich one has the better features for the money.


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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:07 pm
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Metalman50 wrote:
Stratquebec,don't you think these guy's should have started a thread here about comparing the features of the mustang I & II to the vypyr 15 & 30w and also the line 6 spider IV 15 & 30w amps rather then what you dislike about the mustang 1 & 2 amps? This would be much more informative to anyone considering these amps and then you could debate over wich one has the better features for the money.


That would be useful thread indeed. I respect all the posters opinions though. But I will not post anymore in that thread. I think it will die by itself because it is not going anywhere.

Enjoy your Mustang I and II everyone!


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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:38 am
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Muleya, i am pretty shure that Fender has people reading here and take posters words in some consideration. Forum is a pretty cheap way to have a market feedback.

Then our words is weighted and filtered, and some times when something is possible and cost effective, words take their road to development.

Product comparision: i can speak about Line6 product, that i owned and still own, the mustang features compare well with the flextone series that actually does not exist anymore and was priced much higher. The spider has limits compared to the mustang, and my pocket pod voiced by the aux of the mustang sounds better than any spider, Do your consideration. The Pod HD series has another price range, has a good tubescreamer emulation but Mustang cleans are more enjoyable to my taste and many people had trouble finding high gain sounds with the HD.

I also still owned a Boss VF-1, it has a bit better fx but is an horse hard to tame and COSM emulation is far from being a real competitor.

Has for the critics to valve amps... brand new valves usually need some week of work to sound at their best but after that the amp sound the same until the valve begins to die.
What i find sad in today valve amp is that they dont have the same flexibility of a 100$ digital amp. Builtin fx and a good 24 presets memory should be that hard to fit on a 1500$ head!

That said... let's see if this topic really dies after the brains escape!

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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:50 am
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I guess stratquebec and metalman are done posting here, so won't read this, but I'll answer stratquebec's questions anyway.

1. I've tried a few modelling amps under $100, but not nearly all of them. Since I have not tried all of them, I am not in a position to say which is best...it's really just that simple. I guess you've tried them all and are in such a position to make that determination.

However, in addition to the MI, I also own a Line 6 Pocket Pod and Line 6 Toneport. And several years ago I owned a Yamaha DG Stomp, then a few years later, one of the first Vox Valvetronix amps and also Behringer V-AMP2. I've had enough of these modelers to know that each has its pros and cons. To be perfectly honest, each one did certain things better than the others and not a single one of them did everything it claimed to as well as it claimed to...in other words, each had its shortcomings.

For example, I get my best clean and low gain tones from the Mustang (followed closely by the Vavletronix), but I get my best high gain tones from the Pocket Pod (ironically, better than the Toneport, which is based on newer technology!). The DG Stomp, Toneport and Valvetronix have some really great crunch tones.

And in terms of user-friendliness, each one is designed differently, and each design has it's pros and cons. One thing I really liked about the Valvetronix was the pedal could be set up to give you three footswitchable tones, which is perfect for me. The Mustang I and II only has two footswitchable options. But the Mustang allows you to store more presets, plus allows you to over-write the factory presets, which I really like.

2. Why did I buy the Mustang? Well, I love the idea of the FUSE software...it's very similar to the Toneport in that sense, but I think the Fender does a better job with certain amp models...namely the Fender models (and I really wanted good models of the Twin Reverb and Deluxe Reverb), but I think the Mustang does slightly better even with the plexi and JCM800. On the other hand, I like Line 6's tubescreamer model better when it's used as a boost to drive the amp harder...my best "boosted-jumpered-plexi" tone comes from the Toneport (but then my worst JCM800 tone comes from the Toneport!)

Another thing was it only has the classic models...I didn't want 30+ models to choose from...I just spend too much time tweaking with that much to choose from. I wanted something that had the classic amplifiers and not much more than that, and the Mustang fit that to a "T".

Of course, the Fender has the advantage of being an actual amp, the Toneport can only be used with headphones or monitors. But at the same time, I think the Line 6 products provide better tones with headphones than the Mustang, at least for the medium and high gain tones.

So yeah, I can't say the Mustang is the best $100 amp. Not only have I not tried them all, it really depends on each player and what their particular needs are as to which amp is best suited for them

Anyway, Mordor...sounds live we've drawn some of the same conclusions here! Cool! And if these other guys refuse to see reason, what can we do? I think I'm gonna have another cup of coffee!!


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Post subject: Re: What do you DISLIKE about your mustang 1/2 amp ?
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:55 am
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Muleya, seems like we are walking on the same path...

When i got my Toneport GX i also felt that Old pod tones sounded better. It is just that they are easy to tweak and the DS/OD switches engage a standard setted Tubescreamer, while you need to add it in toneport. Recenlty i starded enjoy better some of the toneport tones. But this apply to every amp. Yuo need to know an amp to get it work well. And with with modeling amp things can only get more complex! :)

Every model need you to spent time on it to sort out good sounds and you can get similar sounds with different amps and a decent OD stomp. So no need for 1000 models but more model to choose from can let you find the one that work with you better.

With mustang i felt already at home with American and Metal but i want to tame at least British 80 and Supersonic.

As for the Overdrive stomp, as i said somewhere else, did you try to crank the high kob of the stomp to the max?

The 3 footsitchable options idea is really interesting to me... so sad our friends hire DISLIKE the idea of new features itself!

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You can find all my Mustang tips here:
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An Unofficial guide to Fender Mustang Effects here:
http://ridingthemustang.blogspot.it/p/unoffcial-guide-to-fender-mustang.html

USB Footswitch Opensource Project:

https://github.com/mordor74/mustang-raider


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