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Post subject: Distortion pedal
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:30 am
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Hi friends) Please help me, Mustang I Combo have distortion pedal in Fender FUSE? I has found only overdrive pedal :) Thanks for answers friends)
P.S. Sorry of my text, i not speak English.


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:08 pm
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Hi,i also have the Mustang I and i cannot find any distortion pedal in fuse but you should be able to get a good distortion from the metal 2000 or american 90's amp models and i like the distortion that i get from these models.


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:24 pm
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As I have heard it explained elsewhere, although they are commonly given different names, overdrive and distortion are really just part of the same 'spectrum', with distortion being at the high end and obtained through applying higher drive and gain settings until the driven tone 'distorts'.

Pedal makers of course like to sell you both kinds of pedal !


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:16 pm
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Metalman50 wrote:
Hi,i also have the Mustang I and i cannot find any distortion pedal in fuse but you should be able to get a good distortion from the metal 2000 or american 90's amp models and i like the distortion that i get from these models.

Metalman50, can you show me your settings american 90's and metal 2000? :)


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:32 pm
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Sorry for the delay,here is my one of my favorite metal settings for the mustang I: Amp=American 90's Gain=4:00,Volume=4:00,Treble=11:30 Middle=9:30,Bass=4:00,Presence=11:00 Advanced Amp Setting's Master Volume=11:00 Noise Gate=High,Thresh=11:00,Depth=5:00 Sag=Matched,Bias=1:00 Cabinet=4x12G Post Gain Compressor Level=11:00,Thresh=8:00,Ratio=10:00 Attack=12:00,Release=12:00


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:45 pm
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Note:you must have your mustang connected to the fuse software for the settings i gave you in my previous post,i thought the clock position settings would be better to use for my amp and compressor knob positions.


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:10 am
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Hi,

Sorry for digging out an old topic but I have a little request for Metalman50. Can You upload this preset to Fuse presets? :) It would be very nice if You can :)

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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:24 am
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Difference between overdrive and distortion is that distortion is "clipped" (hard clipped?) and or compressed

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many overdrive stomps clip and compress at "high" settings and, also, many valve lead channel have a clipping diode in front, so they are already distorted. I may guess that the METAL 2000 already emulated a clipped lead channel, maybe the AMERICAN 90 too...

So when you use the METAL 2000 channel you should do well with the overdirve pedal. If you wish to use distortion an a mustang clean channel you should try to drive to 100% the first control or else buy an external pedal, mustang works fine with external stomps.

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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:55 pm
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The technical difference between Overdrive and Distortion

In a Valve-driven amplifier, distortion refers to the clipping of the audio waveform while in the pre-amp stage in the pre-amp tubes. It tends to be grittier and harsher sounding, as the waveform is still relatively small. This stage is primarily affected by the "GAIN" knob on most amplifiers.

Overdrive is when you DRIVE the power tubes past their ability to amplify the waveform, and it begins to clip there. Since here, the waveform is MUCH bigger (as the amplifier is sending a lot more signal to drive the speakers), the clipping is much more subtle, resulting in much warmer tones with a lot less harshness and grit and more harmonic content that you get with pre-amp distortion.

Distortion really refers to ANY alteration to the waveform from its original shape (other than increasing amplitude, a.k.a. volume). However, it common usage, distortion refers to PREAMP clipping while overdrive refers to POWER AMP clipping.

Since most valve amps don't have attenuators, you won't have true overdrive without causing damage to your eardrums (exceptions include Woodstock, large open fields, etc.). And also since ALL distortion is caused by driving some form of amplifier stage, the only pedal Fender would need to include IS the Overdrive pedal - hence why you don't have a Distortion pedal in Fuse.

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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:43 am
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Distortion really refers to ANY alteration to the waveform from its original shape (other than increasing amplitude, a.k.a. volume). However, it common usage, distortion refers to PREAMP clipping while overdrive refers to POWER AMP clipping.


I guess that it is obvious that we are not referring to generic scentific definition of phenomens but to "effect flavors" if you pass me that definition.

Anyway Fuse allow you to place the stomp after the "preamp" and this should archive a sort of "poweramp clipping" but i dont think that the given definition fit perfectly to a "distortion stomp" since as far as i know a "distortion stomp" sits in front of pre, not after it.

Worth experiment anyway!

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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 1:45 am
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FFXIhealer wrote:
The technical difference between Overdrive and Distortion

In a Valve-driven amplifier, distortion refers to the clipping of the audio waveform while in the pre-amp stage in the pre-amp tubes. It tends to be grittier and harsher sounding, as the waveform is still relatively small. This stage is primarily affected by the "GAIN" knob on most amplifiers.

Overdrive is when you DRIVE the power tubes past their ability to amplify the waveform, and it begins to clip there. Since here, the waveform is MUCH bigger (as the amplifier is sending a lot more signal to drive the speakers), the clipping porno is much more subtle, resulting in much warmer tones with a lot less harshness and grit and more harmonic content that you get with pre-amp distortion.

Distortion really refers to ANY alteration to the waveform from its original shape (other than increasing amplitude, a.k.a. volume). However, it common usage, distortion refers to PREAMP clipping while overdrive refers to POWER AMP clipping.

Since most valve amps don't have attenuators, you won't have true overdrive without causing damage to your eardrums (exceptions include Woodstock, large open fields, etc.). And also since ALL distortion is caused by driving some form of amplifier stage maduras, the only pedal Fender would need to include IS the Overdrive pedal - hence why you don't have a Distortion pedal in Fuse.


As I have heard it explained elsewhere, although they are commonly given different names, overdrive and distortion are really just part of the same 'spectrum', with distortion being at the high end and obtained through applying higher drive and gain settings until the driven tone 'distorts'.

Pedal makers of course like to sell you both kinds of pedal !


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Post subject: Re: Distortion pedal
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:23 am
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Thanks for replying 6.5 years late. Necro-post, much? LOL

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