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Post subject: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:18 am
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Hi

I am thinking of Changing my Mustang Amp II and exchanging for the Mustang III version.
As I know it is 100 watt, 100 preset and on amp front editing, apart from all this..

( 1 ) Is the Sound Quality better with Celestion speaker.

( 2 ) Better Amp Modelling sound.

my main Guitar playing is INSTRUMENTIAL eg, The Shadows, / Duane Eddy / The Ventures, so a Good Clean Warm Amp sound is required.

Any advice and information would be welcome.

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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:25 am
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Make sure you play any Mustang III in the store in a quiet room before purchasing, due to the amount of these amps with "fizz" on the clean presets and settings. The I & II don't seem to suffer from this, but the III, IV & V have had some reports, with the III having far and away the most. :wink:

If no fizz, the sound should be fuller because of the better speaker and more wattage. The amp modelling in all the Mustangs is the same.


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:13 am
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I did exactly that - went from a Mustang II to a III for the reasons you mentioned.

However, even though its an obvious decision on paper, I regret the decision for a couple of reasons:
1. The II sounded better at lower volumes (better for my home situation).
2. I have the dreaded fizz with the III - which is a HUGE let-down.

I'm almost at the point where I will trade my mustang III for a II - but I'm holding out hope for a confirmed fix from Fender..

If I were you, I'd hold off until the Fizz issue becomes more "clear" (no pun intended) before making the switch..

Dave


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:15 am
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BTW - the fizz I have is inconsistent for me - sometimes its not noticeable and sometimes its horrible.

As a result - you may not be able to confirm a fizz free unit at the store..

Dave


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:46 am
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dhparker@rogers.com wrote:
1. The II sounded better at lower volumes (better for my home situation).
Can you elaborate? I recall reading some people said they liked the 3 better also for low volume. Others liked the 2 as well, but I think it wasn't because it was better per se, just different and to their liking.


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:17 am
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There were a couple of reasons I thought the II sounded better at low volume:

1. It is very hard to get a low enough volume with 100 watts - as the tiniest movement of the volume knob adjusts the volume a lot.
2. I preferred the closed back sound - it was a bit more punchy and less muddy - again at the lower volumes I play with.

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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:52 am
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Hi

Thank you so far with some replies.I am more confused with changing over from II to III as this " fizz " problem mentioned in my thread and other threads makes the III a bad choice.
I thought with technology that the Mustang II works okay but a later Mustang III has this "fizz" coming through the sound.
As I use my gear for home use with the possibility of an odd venue I felt the 100watt would give me more head room with a warmer sound, but not now too sure if the open back will help., I do recall that the Vox AC 30 was open back, and as mentioned in my opening thread I play Instrumentials the neater warmer tone I was looking for was hopefully in this Mustang III, am I on the wrong track changing over.

thanks guys


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:27 am
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Yes, way on the wrong track. Vox would never in a million years treat its customers like this. Avoid the MIII+ like the plague. Fender is telling its customers with the fizz that they're crazy, there's no problem. They accept no liability for shipping a known defective amp.

Problem is, we're not crazy, they are. If they think we're going to patronize their brand after this outrage.


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:05 am
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Worse, they're telling customers that there is a problem "under certain circumstances" which they don't reveal, but tell the customer to live with it due to the price point. I reacted to this the same way I did when my doctor told me to live with the constant pain in my left side after two operations and over $4000 in hospital fees failed to find a cause!

I'm just glad I didn't purchase one of these amps. My G-DEC 3 is fine (luckily).


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:34 pm
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+1. My G-DEC 3 30 is fine as well, as is my Mustang II.

But if they weren't, I have no doubt Fender would tell me to go take a flying leap on those as well!


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Post subject: Re: from Mustang II to III
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:14 pm
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dhparker@rogers.com wrote:
There were a couple of reasons I thought the II sounded better at low volume:

1. It is very hard to get a low enough volume with 100 watts - as the tiniest movement of the volume knob adjusts the volume a lot.

Dave


Can't help with the 2nd point, but about the first one - decrease the volume of preset to, say, 5 and you will notice the movement of master volume knob on the amp doesn't adjust the volume that much anymore. I can play the Mustang IV which is 150W A LOT more quietly than I played Frontman 212R which was 100W. True that if you jam you might need to increase the volume of preset or just increase the master volume of amp to get to certain volume - but I bet with Mustang IV you could easily have like 25W output if you decrease volume of the preset a lot, with your master volume knob on 9 or even 10. So it's very easy to get low enough volume with the Mustangs. Just try decreasing the volume on your presets ;)

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