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Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a note fizz problem?
I had the Mustang III with fizz! 46%  46%  [ 23 ]
I had the Mustang IV with fizz! 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
I had the Mustang V with fizz! 8%  8%  [ 4 ]
I had a Mustang III, IV, or V with no fizz. 44%  44%  [ 22 ]
Total votes : 50
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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:32 am
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KenB5 wrote:
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In your quote (16 Jul 2011 00:15) of my message (15 Jul 2011 23:47) the following line was included in your quote ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Read my post ... that statement is clearly not included. All I can assume is that YOU added it because YOU are the one who wrote the response.

YOU SHOULD NOT BE REVISING POSTS MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE AND QUOTING THE RESULT IN AN EFFORT TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.

THAT'S BS ... YOU LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK ...

KenB


Well Ken...

All I can say is that I don't have a clue of what you are talking about. I would have had to cut and paste in order to insert anything into your post and I did not do that.

I'm not sure of your definition of a "LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK", but while I would typically not use that term with anyone, I might be tempted to apply it to someone who jumps to assumptions without taking the time to check out his or her knee jerk reaction. Had you taken the time, I would have happily expressed just as much surprise as you did upon reading the post.

I simply don't have enough interest or motivation to try to modify anyone's post.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:45 am
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bborzell wrote:
KenB5 wrote:
@ bborzell

In your quote (16 Jul 2011 00:15) of my message (15 Jul 2011 23:47) the following line was included in your quote ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Read my post ... that statement is clearly not included. All I can assume is that YOU added it because YOU are the one who wrote the response.

YOU SHOULD NOT BE REVISING POSTS MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE AND QUOTING THE RESULT IN AN EFFORT TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.

THAT'S BS ... YOU LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK ...

KenB


Well Ken...

All I can say is that I don't have a clue of what you are talking about. I would have had to cut and paste in order to insert anything into your post and I did not do that.

I'm not sure of your definition of a "LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK", but while I would typically not use that term with anyone, I might be tempted to apply it to someone who jumps to assumptions without taking the time to check out his or her knee jerk reaction. Had you taken the time, I would have happily expressed just as much surprise as you did upon reading the post.

I simply don't have enough interest or motivation to try to modify anyone's post.



The quote was clearly modified to further your agenda and you are clearly responsible for the modification.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:09 am
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clejmac wrote:
The quote was clearly modified to further your agenda and you are clearly responsible for the modification.

Not that clearly as the posts directly follow each other and when you edit the last post there is no modification timestamp.
Ken could have edited his post while bborzell was typing his reply and allready quoted him.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:20 am
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Henky wrote:
clejmac wrote:
The quote was clearly modified to further your agenda and you are clearly responsible for the modification.

Not that clearly as the posts directly follow each other and when you edit the last post there is no modification timestamp.
Ken could have edited his post while bborzell was typing his reply and allready quoted him.


Since clejmac is on my foe list and not really worthy of a direct response, I will state generally, that once again, he has revealed his lack of understanding of pretty much everything that is expressed in more than monosyllabic terms.

For what it is worth, I have no reason to believe that Ken wrote that last line and is now trying to disassociate himself from it. Nor do I know how it got there in the first place. And as time passes, I am beginning to care less and less.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:14 pm
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Fizzhead ???
4 posts with not much more then single words like "busted"...

Yet another troll is born.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:48 pm
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Basically we're all on Fizzwatch now day after day waiting for Fender to announce a fix. Until they do, it's all bushwah.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:54 pm
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After looking at the fizzy sounds a bit more I think that if wanted to make a fender fizz modeler I'd go about it by adding jitter to one of the sample clocks. I think that's the best guess I can make without actually knowing any of the details about how it works or poking around a fizzy one.

With a bit of clock jitter I can take my Fender Mustang I's clean sound and get some of the fizzy characteristics I've shown earlier in the thread. With a bit of jitter the peaks get wider there are multiples around each harmonic, the higher frequency decays don't decay right, and the noise goes up. I'll spare everyone the charts.

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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:09 pm
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johnjaypl wrote:
... I think that if wanted to make a fender fizz modeler I'd go about it by adding jitter to one of the sample clocks.
:lol: It's not a bug, it's an effect! Interesting findings.

Do you think this will fit in the chassis with a little hot glue?
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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:56 pm
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Busted![/quote]

Gee, Fizzhead (and I can't imagine a more appropriate name). You must have stayed up all night thinking of that brilliant response. Maybe things will begin to make more sense when you get into high school.

Until then (and likely well thereafter), you can join Your buddy cejwhatever on the Foe list.

Bye, bye.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:11 pm
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bborzell wrote:
KenB5 wrote:
@ bborzell

In your quote (16 Jul 2011 00:15) of my message (15 Jul 2011 23:47) the following line was included in your quote ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Read my post ... that statement is clearly not included. All I can assume is that YOU added it because YOU are the one who wrote the response.

YOU SHOULD NOT BE REVISING POSTS MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE AND QUOTING THE RESULT IN AN EFFORT TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.

THAT'S BS ... YOU LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK ...

KenB


Well Ken...

All I can say is that I don't have a clue of what you are talking about. I would have had to cut and paste in order to insert anything into your post and I did not do that.

I'm not sure of your definition of a "LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK", but while I would typically not use that term with anyone, I might be tempted to apply it to someone who jumps to assumptions without taking the time to check out his or her knee jerk reaction. Had you taken the time, I would have happily expressed just as much surprise as you did upon reading the post.

I simply don't have enough interest or motivation to try to modify anyone's post.


@ bborzel

Read both posts ... your quote clearly included the following line ... added above my signature ... in your quopte of my message ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Your post is about 50 minutes after mine ... there is no way that sentence could have been added by me TO YOUR POST ... there is no way you could have quoted my message until it was posted to this board ... and I did not revise my message after I posted it.

KenB


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:15 pm
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Henky wrote:
clejmac wrote:
The quote was clearly modified to further your agenda and you are clearly responsible for the modification.

Not that clearly as the posts directly follow each other and when you edit the last post there is no modification timestamp.
Ken could have edited his post while bborzell was typing his reply and allready quoted him.


@Henky

Possible, but not done.

KenB


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:46 pm
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KenB5 wrote:
bborzell wrote:
KenB5 wrote:
@ bborzell

In your quote (16 Jul 2011 00:15) of my message (15 Jul 2011 23:47) the following line was included in your quote ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Read my post ... that statement is clearly not included. All I can assume is that YOU added it because YOU are the one who wrote the response.

YOU SHOULD NOT BE REVISING POSTS MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE AND QUOTING THE RESULT IN AN EFFORT TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.

THAT'S BS ... YOU LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK ...

KenB


Well Ken...

All I can say is that I don't have a clue of what you are talking about. I would have had to cut and paste in order to insert anything into your post and I did not do that.

I'm not sure of your definition of a "LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK", but while I would typically not use that term with anyone, I might be tempted to apply it to someone who jumps to assumptions without taking the time to check out his or her knee jerk reaction. Had you taken the time, I would have happily expressed just as much surprise as you did upon reading the post.

I simply don't have enough interest or motivation to try to modify anyone's post.


@ bborzel

Read both posts ... your quote clearly included the following line ... added above my signature ... in your quopte of my message ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Your post is about 50 minutes after mine ... there is no way that sentence could have been added by me TO YOUR POST ... there is no way you could have quoted my message until it was posted to this board ... and I did not revise my message after I posted it.

KenB


+1 YOU LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK ...


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:14 am
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KenB5 wrote:
bborzell wrote:
KenB5 wrote:
@ bborzell

In your quote (16 Jul 2011 00:15) of my message (15 Jul 2011 23:47) the following line was included in your quote ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Read my post ... that statement is clearly not included. All I can assume is that YOU added it because YOU are the one who wrote the response.

YOU SHOULD NOT BE REVISING POSTS MADE BY OTHER PEOPLE AND QUOTING THE RESULT IN AN EFFORT TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.

THAT'S BS ... YOU LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK ...

KenB


Well Ken...

All I can say is that I don't have a clue of what you are talking about. I would have had to cut and paste in order to insert anything into your post and I did not do that.

I'm not sure of your definition of a "LOW LIFE FREAKIN' JERK", but while I would typically not use that term with anyone, I might be tempted to apply it to someone who jumps to assumptions without taking the time to check out his or her knee jerk reaction. Had you taken the time, I would have happily expressed just as much surprise as you did upon reading the post.

I simply don't have enough interest or motivation to try to modify anyone's post.


@ bborzel

Read both posts ... your quote clearly included the following line ... added above my signature ... in your quopte of my message ... "I would still really like to be proven wrong by Fender (as opposed to lame attempts to muddy the water by know nothing trolls)."

Your post is about 50 minutes after mine ... there is no way that sentence could have been added by me TO YOUR POST ... there is no way you could have quoted my message until it was posted to this board ... and I did not revise my message after I posted it.

KenB


I don't need to read both posts. I know that I did not "sneak" that sentence into your post and I'm not even suggesting that you did either. As for your invective laced reaction, well, it speaks for itself.

If you really think that anyone sees enough value in planting a sentence in your posts, then perhaps you have seriously overestimated your importance here.


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:47 am
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bborzell wrote:
I don't need to read both posts. I know that I did not "sneak" that sentence into your post and I'm not even suggesting that you did either. As for your invective laced reaction, well, it speaks for itself.

If you really think that anyone sees enough value in planting a sentence in your posts, then perhaps you have seriously overestimated your importance here.


@ bborzell

Yeah ... right ... whatever ... defend yourself all ya want ... knock yourself out ...

KenB


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Post subject: Re: Does your Mustang III, IV, or V have a fizz problem?
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:42 am
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polishbroadcast wrote:
johnjaypl wrote:
... I think that if wanted to make a fender fizz modeler I'd go about it by adding jitter to one of the sample clocks.
:lol: It's not a bug, it's an effect! Interesting findings.

Do you think this will fit in the chassis with a little hot glue?
Image



If you have an authentic vintage Mustang with fizz it's not an "effect" but a "characteristic". Someday there will be "pre fizz fix" amps along with the less desirable "post fizz fix" amps. Date codes and such will be checked. Hang on to your fizzers because the price can only go up. And if the right person uses fizz in their music there's no telling how much fizz demand there will be. I've already read some posts where people seem to be embracing their fizz. And that's when the demand for fizz clones will kick in. And for those who have other amps, Fizz pedals. I can see the add now. Add Mustang III fizz to your Vox AC30. Someone needs to come up with names for the different types of fizz that different amps produce so you can dial in the fizz you're looking for. And Fizz pedals are going to be important for even folks that have Fizzers because it's not clear how servicable these amps are.


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