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Post subject: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:27 pm
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I have a MIII and have tried to hook it up to my computer with the USB-cable for recording, but I can't seem to get a good sound out of it through the USB. To me, everything sounds really fizzy and harsch, and not at all "alive" the way it does when you just play it as it is with the speaker. Does anyone have a good preset that they use for recording and is it uploaded on Fuse? Is it even possible to get an "alive-sounding" tone through the USB or is it just the amp's speaker that makes it sound good? If anyone has a good classic rock/80's metal preset that they use for recording, please let me know!


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Post subject: Re: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:26 pm
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Hi Nofire,

I've noticed the same thing when I record too. And I've also noticed the same thing happening when I listen on headphones. The presets just don't react the same as when you play them through the amp's speaker. So what I do is tweak the sound I want to record while listening through headsets.

With headsets on, if it sounds to fizzy or harsh, start by turning the gain down and the amp volume up. Adjust the bass, mids, & treble to your taste. Adjust effects levels to your taste.

Something I discovered that livens up the tone is to use use sine chorus, reverb, and stereo delay, all after the amp and all set to very low levels. You want them to be just subtle enough to fatten up the tone (unless your sound calls for said effect, then crank up the levels as desired).

Also you can try adding compressor befor the amp. Or add distortion before the amp (agian, turn down the amp gain if its too harsh). And experiment with the Bias and Sag settings & mixing and matching amp and cab models.

One more thing.. after you've recorded, double the track and pan the first track left, the second track right. Gives it a stereo effect and helps fatten everything up.

Basically you just got to get in there and tweak. But the key to good recorded tone through USB, IMO, is to tweak with the headsets on.


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Post subject: Re: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:32 pm
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I didn't think the speaker emulation sounded very good either. If you want an "in the room" sound you could either A) mic the amp or B) run the signal through another speaker emulator in software (might sound really cool ... or terrible). The Mustang does lots of cool stuff but speaker emulation isn't one of the strong points.


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Post subject: Re: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:40 pm
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My Tascam DP008 has pretty good built-in condenser mics that work great for acoustic guitar situations. My eventual plan record tracks 1&2 with the built-in stereo mics, and re-record to tracks 3&4 from the headphone out with the 1/8" stereo to 1/4" line Y cable contraption to see which gives me the best results.

I'm not entirely sure if I'm supposed to turn of the cabinet simulation when I go thru the headphones. I guess I can record that take on tracks 5&6.

It's going to be a nightmare juggling all of the levels, trims, and eq's for each combination.

A detailed owners manual with guidlines for recording scenarios would be wonderful plus.

PS, I have the MIII.


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Post subject: Re: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:00 pm
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All of this leads me to ask if any other modeling amps have a USB or a speaker emulated headphone/line out that can give a true or reasonable copy of the amp's speaker sound when recording?

This would not convince me to get rid of my Mustang IV (which I have yet to record), but I am curious about the others.

A question for Fender would be- Is it possible that software (at the amp or computer) could be made or updated to give a consistent speaker emulated match with either or both the USB and/or headphone out recordings?


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Post subject: Re: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:37 am
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If it is indeed because of the mustang speaker frequency response you can easily correct for it in your DAW dialing the following EQ gain (look at the graph on this post viewtopic.php?f=27&t=82064&hilit=mustang+speaker)

then of course I assume you will end up listening to the final recording on a PC speaker with flat response from 70hz to 5khs or otherwise you will never hear the low frequencies you get with the mustang speaker


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Post subject: Re: Good preset for recording?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:40 pm
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jedi2b:

Great answer and informative link.

Thanks for that.


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