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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:59 am
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Login in to confirm that my Mustang III has a fiz problem as well. Although I think mine is a lot worse than the sound file that is posted at the beginning of this thread. The clean channels/settings are not clean at all, they all sound distorted. This problem did not start happening until after I had he amp for about 2 months. The amp sounded great out of the box. Hope this gets addressed soon. I can't stand not having a clean channel to play through when I want to.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:56 am
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Login in to confirm that my Mustang III has a fiz problem as well. Although I think mine is a lot worse than the sound file that is posted at the beginning of this thread. The clean channels/settings are not clean at all, they all sound distorted. This problem did not start happening until after I had he amp for about 2 months. The amp sounded great out of the box. Hope this gets addressed soon. I can't stand not having a clean channel to play through when I want to.


Interesting development. I was under the impression that each amp either had the fizz or didn't.

Your experience would suggest that there might be an element within the amp that deteriorates over time. Makes me wonder more about the possibility of firmware getting scrambled over time.

This also makes me wonder if there is a difference between fizzed amps and quiet amps with respect to whether or not people are tweaking settings in the Fuse thing. Might be possible for settings changes to somehow affect the stability of the firmware.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:27 pm
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The firmware is unlikely to change by itself, and if it did it'd more likely not work at all.

I recall people saying it sounds fine with headphones. If the problem is only when going through the power amp, and assuming it's all analog in that final stretch, it's likely not firmware related.

kuller71: Perhaps you have a different problem. If reapplying the firmware doesn't help, you could try a warranty replacement.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:02 pm
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mpr wrote:
The firmware is unlikely to change by itself, and if it did it'd more likely not work at all.

I recall people saying it sounds fine with headphones. If the problem is only when going through the power amp, and assuming it's all analog in that final stretch, it's likely not firmware related.

kuller71: Perhaps you have a different problem. If reapplying the firmware doesn't help, you could try a warranty replacement.


I don't know. PCs are famous for BIOS corruption problems. Sometimes they would go dark and other times they would fail to do certain things and work with other functions.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:39 am
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Login in to confirm that my Mustang III has a fiz problem as well. Although I think mine is a lot worse than the sound file that is posted at the beginning of this thread. The clean channels/settings are not clean at all, they all sound distorted. This problem did not start happening until after I had he amp for about 2 months. The amp sounded great out of the box. Hope this gets addressed soon. I can't stand not having a clean channel to play through when I want to.


Interesting development. I was under the impression that each amp either had the fizz or didn't.

Your experience would suggest that there might be an element within the amp that deteriorates over time. Makes me wonder more about the possibility of firmware getting scrambled over time.

This also makes me wonder if there is a difference between fizzed amps and quiet amps with respect to whether or not people are tweaking settings in the Fuse thing. Might be possible for settings changes to somehow affect the stability of the firmware.


Welcome to earth. If you have spent a little more time reading and a little less arguing you would already know that I mentioned that my amp was fine and started "fizzing and buzzing" after about 3 months of use. I think it`s on the second on third page of the thread.

The Mustang III amp ( I can't say for IV and V) is hardware defective and I would put my 20$ on the AC power. My guess, those amps, or at least a batch of them including mine, are slowly frying to a fatal death.

We'll see what Fender has to say about the warranty repairs once they pull their head out of their $@! and give answer to the tech managing the warranty claim. Three weeks and the only answer I've had is "do not repair". If Fender would even have a half baked client service they would issue a recall.

This is no development and Fender is getting closer and closer to never sell me anything else for the rest of my life, including strings or picks.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:53 am
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I've given up. I bought a used Egnater Tweaker on the weekend and love it. Sure - it doesn't have as many sounds as the Mustang - but it does sound amazing - and I can start exploring other sounds with pedals and multi-effects units with its effects loop..

I'm selling my Mustang III with the issues noted and moving on..

I wanted it to work out - but I'd rather not log it back to the store for warranty claims when the fix is uncertain..

Dave


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:55 am
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dhparker@rogers.com wrote:
I've given up. I bought a used Egnater Tweaker on the weekend and love it. Sure - it doesn't have as many sounds as the Mustang - but it does sound amazing - and I can start exploring other sounds with pedals and multi-effects units with its effects loop..

I'm selling my Mustang III with the issues noted and moving on..

I wanted it to work out - but I'd rather not log it back to the store for warranty claims when the fix is uncertain..

Dave


Are you going to mention in your for sale ad that is has THE FIZZ?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:57 am
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dhparker@rogers.com wrote:
I've given up. I bought a used Egnater Tweaker on the weekend and love it
That sucks. Sorry to hear it, but glad you made a move forward. Why couldn't you return it and just get your money back?

Like you, i gave up on the III for now and ordered an Allen Sweet Spot kit (DR/PR clone). I loved the Mustang for how quiet it was at idle, but the fizzy tone was a deal-breaker. Enjoy the Egnater. I've only read good things about them.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:57 am
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broadcast, I built the Sweet Spot four years ago when David was calling that kit a V18. It's a good amp. I'm using the supplied Tungsol 6v6's. It was my first tube guitar amp kit. My first tube amp kit was an Allied Radio monaural hi-fi unit that I built in the mid 60's. Bob


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:47 pm
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Well turned the amp on yesterday and was able to get clean channels to sound ... well clean. Was thinking maybe it fixed itself. Turned the amp back on today and well my clean channels sound distorted again. :evil: Same outlet have not moved the amp an inch.


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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:39 pm
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broadcast, I built the Sweet Spot four years ago when David was calling that kit a V18. It's a good amp. I'm using the supplied Tungsol 6v6's. It was my first tube guitar amp kit. My first tube amp kit was an Allied Radio monaural hi-fi unit that I built in the mid 60's. Bob
Nice! 6v6 is a good first amp to have. I owned a Deluxe Reverb for 20 years but recently sold it for whatever reason. I'm looking forward to the Allen being a low-noise, Fender-clean machine. I looked at some Allied Radio kits... they look awesome! Reminds me of the awesome Heathkit stuff.

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Well turned the amp on yesterday and was able to get clean channels to sound ... well clean. Was thinking maybe it fixed itself. Turned the amp back on today and well my clean channels sound distorted again. :evil: Same outlet have not moved the amp an inch.
Day to day power fluctuation is the only thing that makes sense to me. That sucks.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:04 pm
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When I bought mine it had a hang tag that says 5 year warranty so I guess I've got time to see if something develops. I never noticed until this thread but I do seem to have the low volume fizz. The type of stuff I play though, I doubt it will be an issue unless it gets worse like some have experienced.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:06 pm
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kuller71 wrote:
Well turned the amp on yesterday and was able to get clean channels to sound ... well clean. Was thinking maybe it fixed itself. Turned the amp back on today and well my clean channels sound distorted again. :evil: Same outlet have not moved the amp an inch.
Day to day power fluctuation is the only thing that makes sense to me. That sucks.
Or a part of the firmware fails to load sometimes...
Would be interesting to switch the amp on and off a couple of times to see what happens...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:13 pm
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Henky wrote:
Or a part of the firmware fails to load sometimes...
Would be interesting to switch the amp on and off a couple of times to see what happens...

I know something like this happens. I turned mine on once and preset 00 was blank. It just said empty amp , empty cab. No preset name. The rest of the presets seemed unaffected.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:49 pm
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Henky wrote:
polishbroadcast wrote:
kuller71 wrote:
Well turned the amp on yesterday and was able to get clean channels to sound ... well clean. Was thinking maybe it fixed itself. Turned the amp back on today and well my clean channels sound distorted again. :evil: Same outlet have not moved the amp an inch.
Day to day power fluctuation is the only thing that makes sense to me. That sucks.
Or a part of the firmware fails to load sometimes...
Would be interesting to switch the amp on and off a couple of times to see what happens...


Trust me I have turned the amp on/off mutiple times to see if I can get rid of the fizz/fuzz/distortion. Will keep trying, as I am awaiting Fender to get back with me. In the meantime thinking about going to get the 75w line 6 spider to practice through since it has close to the same features as to what the Mustang III offered. Anyone have anything nice to say about the line 6?


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