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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:24 pm
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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:25 pm
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vassago66 wrote:
Of course we are all Americans and we all have English as a first language. Geez, some guy on another forum is Italian and posts using Google translate from Italian to English, he's a cool and very helpful guy, he just does not speak/write English very well.

Ah well, i'm dutch and live in Holland :oops:


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:33 pm
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Henky wrote:
vassago66 wrote:
Of course we are all Americans and we all have English as a first language. Geez, some guy on another forum is Italian and posts using Google translate from Italian to English, he's a cool and very helpful guy, he just does not speak/write English very well.

Ah well, i'm dutch and live in Holland :oops:
@vassago66 you misunderstood the english comment. it was directed at the troll, not the non-native-english speakers.

@Henky. vassago66 was being sarcastic. The point s/he was trying to make is that this board isn't US-centric.

If you are having an issue with a Mustang amp, or have thoughts about solutions please post, otherwise keep the mudslinging to yourself.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:41 pm
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polishbroadcast wrote:
Henky wrote:
vassago66 wrote:
Of course we are all Americans and we all have English as a first language. Geez, some guy on another forum is Italian and posts using Google translate from Italian to English, he's a cool and very helpful guy, he just does not speak/write English very well.

Ah well, i'm dutch and live in Holland :oops:
@vassago66 you misunderstood the english comment. it was directed at the troll, not the non-native-english speakers.

@Henky. vassago66 was being sarcastic. The point s/he was trying to make is that this board isn't US-centric.

If you are having an issue with a Mustang amp, or have thoughts about solutions please post, otherwise keep the mudslinging to yourself.


Just to be clear, my comment about the trolls use of the word plight had nothing to do with his/her country of origin nor his/her language of choice. In fact, I have no doubt that he/she is very familiar with the English language, except for the meaning of the word plight. Hopefully, this exchange will correct that.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:05 pm
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Update on my MIII at the repair shop.

So, I've talked with the shop who said they are waiting on Fender. Talked with Fender c/s twice, most recently this morning. C/s rep Steve was very polite and pleasant but didn't have much to tell me. Like last week, he said he would have to call the repair shop, Austin Amp, and verify the amp"s problems, etc. Now, Austin Amp told me that they could only replace the MIII and could not repair it. Steve said that the amp would be repaired rather than being replaced. I asked him if it is a hardware problem, firmware problem, or just what would be done to fix the amp. His response was that he would have to call, etc, etc. I again asked to be contacted as soon as he has a solution, repair/replace/refund.... He promised to call asap. So now I wait.... I'll keep calling every few days.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:30 pm
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Thanks for the update, Mark! From what we can tell, this is a real headscratcher for Fender as well as the repair centers.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:58 pm
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I just got home after a long drive from NYC and I'm about ready to get the popcorn out :lol: . Personally I am going to ignore the troll for now on. Everybody else, I am going to go to a session with two guys I have never played with before and bring the Mustang. I'll let you know how it goes. I'll be playing on a clean setting with a semi-hollow body. Drums and Upright bass with be the volume match.

I would like to address the price issue quickly. Yes, the Mustang III has a nice price tag on it. But compared to most solid state and DSP amps, it's right along the normal price line. And tell you the truth, I would pay more for it, it's a great amp (if it didn't have the fizz). But that's not the point. The point is that it's a simple question for Fender, is it [fizz] going away, or is it staying? Forget all the marketing, public relations, customer relations, etc. Strap on a pair and act like one of the most famous, influential, and badass companies in music there is (which Fender is). At this point you might as well be First Act.

And to whoever the hell the troll is, go practice or something. Write that novel that you've always wanted to write. Make love to your wife. Learn how to cook a pork roast. Go jam with your son. Go away.

On one ending thought, the frustration and anger is not about money or anything like that. It fuels from a disappointment in communication by Fender, or possibly their manipulation. I was told personally, just as another poster, that I should wait a couple weeks before making a decision. Now I have this amp. It sucks. Again, strap on a pair and tell us what's up.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:37 pm
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plight 1 (plaɪt)

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Not typically associated with or caused by guitar amplifiers!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:57 pm
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clejmac wrote:
plight 1 (plaɪt)

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a condition of extreme hardship, danger, etc

Not typically associated with or caused by guitar amplifiers!


One of the hallmarks of trolls is to cherry pick justifications for the unwarranted positions they take in public. Case in point; the definition of the work "plight" which, in addition to that stated above by said troll, also lists the following:

"A dangerous, difficult, or otherwise unfortunate situation". You might find these additional and relevant definitions under the catch phrase you so cleverly chose to cover under the term "etc".

Now, stay with this for a minute; it gets easier to understand as we go along. The use of the word "or" in the definition allows equal validity to all of the variations in meaning. Had the word been "and" instead of "or", there would be a good argument that ALL of the conditions would have to be present in order for the appropriate use of the word.

In this case, however, many people who have paid their money and received Fizz in return would likely describe themselves in a difficult OR unfortunate situation. Hence the use of the word plight.

Recall that I warned you that Google is not always your friend?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:14 pm
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bborzell wrote:
clejmac wrote:
plight 1 (plaɪt)

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a condition of extreme hardship, danger, etc

Not typically associated with or caused by guitar amplifiers!


One of the hallmarks of trolls is to cherry pick justifications for the unwarranted positions they take in public. Case in point; the definition of the work "plight" which, in addition to that stated above by said troll, also lists the following:

"A dangerous, difficult, or otherwise unfortunate situation". You might find these additional and relevant definitions under the catch phrase you so cleverly chose to cover under the term "etc".

Now, stay with this for a minute; it gets easier to understand as we go along. The use of the word "or" in the definition allows equal validity to all of the variations in meaning. Had the word been "and" instead of "or", there would be a good argument that ALL of the conditions would have to be present in order for the appropriate use of the word.

In this case, however, many people who have paid their money and received Fizz in return would likely describe themselves in a difficult OR unfortunate situation. Hence the use of the word plight.

Recall that I warned you that Google is not always your friend?


From a mathematical standpoint all of your statements, while well written, have been illogical.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:19 pm
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C'mon guys. Ignore him and let's get back to amplifiers.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:17 pm
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clejmac wrote:
bborzell wrote:
clejmac wrote:
plight 1 (plaɪt)

— n
a condition of extreme hardship, danger, etc

Not typically associated with or caused by guitar amplifiers!


One of the hallmarks of trolls is to cherry pick justifications for the unwarranted positions they take in public. Case in point; the definition of the work "plight" which, in addition to that stated above by said troll, also lists the following:

"A dangerous, difficult, or otherwise unfortunate situation". You might find these additional and relevant definitions under the catch phrase you so cleverly chose to cover under the term "etc".

Now, stay with this for a minute; it gets easier to understand as we go along. The use of the word "or" in the definition allows equal validity to all of the variations in meaning. Had the word been "and" instead of "or", there would be a good argument that ALL of the conditions would have to be present in order for the appropriate use of the word.

In this case, however, many people who have paid their money and received Fizz in return would likely describe themselves in a difficult OR unfortunate situation. Hence the use of the word plight.

Recall that I warned you that Google is not always your friend?


From a mathematical standpoint all of your statements, while well written, have been illogical.


From a mathematical point of view? Do you really believe what you write or are you simply banking on the false notion that this forum is populated by pre teen Guitar Hero wanabees?

I would love to read any semblance of a defense of your "mathematical point of view" assertion. While it seems to have emerged from one of your bodily orifices, feel free to put meat on the bones or, in the alternative, you can either duck and run or conjure up another similarly meaningless comeback.

It's beginning to become more clear why you are troubled by people taking a stand and expecting Fender to do what is right; if enough people do that on other matters as well, more people might start expecting what you say to make sense.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:44 pm
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I wouldn't say pre teen guitar hero wanabees; we should all be so lucky. I would be more likely to say liberal, sophomoric, non-producing, journalistic wanabees. :D

You haven't made a single logical statement that can even possibly be responded to.

Please include logic in any future statements and or refrain from hiding behind your delusions of grammatical grandeur.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
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