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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:11 pm
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Even if clejmac and Twangster201 are not the same person in real life, they are clearly brothers in arms and reflect the same immature and essentially meaningless nature that we have come to see of late.

Respond at your leisure, but I'm finally listening to my dear old dad who warned me never to get in a wrestling match with a hog; they simply like the slop too much.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:19 pm
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bborzell wrote:
Even if clejmac and Twangster201 are not the same person in real life, they are clearly brothers in arms and reflect the same immature and essentially meaningless nature that we have come to see of late.

Respond at your leisure, but I'm finally listening to my dear old dad who warned me never to get in a wrestling match with a hog; they simply like the slop too much.


Lol...liberal, sophomoric, non-producing, journalistic wanabee.

You should be thankful for dear old dads wrestling with a hog, it spawned you!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:46 pm
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Just got home from a gig. Kind of late here, about 3AM. I am really confused about how some people have so much time to reply to threads that have nothing to do with them. Very pathetic people. VERY pathetic.

Anyways. BACK TO THE AMPS. Played a cover band gig tonight with the mustang. Did well, but didn't match up to the tube setup. I had a mic on it and the other guitar player said that the amp sounded good but the sound coming out of the PA was bad, and said that he heard that digital sound that I was talking about at the rehearsal.

Other than that it did a good job. I might want to trade out the speaker for something warmer. Was thinking about the Cannibus Rex, as people to do the Blues Junior. Gonna wait until I hear from FENDER ABOUT THE FRIGGIN' SOUND.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:27 am
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We're clearly talking about two very different digital "fizz" sounds here. No way the one I hear could be heard at a band gig. Far too subtle.

The Case of the Bifurcated Fizzes.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:54 am
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So what's in it for you, clejmac and Twangster201?
If you both haven't got the fizz problem, why even bother to post in this thread?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:34 am
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Twangster210 wrote:
Fender has only had 2 offical complaints on III, and no official complants on anyother model, the word from them is it a non issuie.

The main complaint came from a jazz guy. They can not replicate the issuie.

Just a FYI.

I have tried 3 different 3s none have had a issue


So you said you want to buy one and you have tried 3 different 3s that didn't have the issue. Why didn't you buy? Put your money where your mouth is....."poney" up the money and buy one. If you called CS and they told you there wasn't an issue, then I guess there isn't one, so buy one already and leave the rest of these people alone.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:48 am
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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:31 am
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clejmac wrote:
bborzell wrote:
Even if clejmac and Twangster201 are not the same person in real life, they are clearly brothers in arms and reflect the same immature and essentially meaningless nature that we have come to see of late.

Respond at your leisure, but I'm finally listening to my dear old dad who warned me never to get in a wrestling match with a hog; they simply like the slop too much.


Lol...liberal, sophomoric, non-producing, journalistic wanabee.

You should be thankful for dear old dads wrestling with a hog, it spawned you!


Oh my, Mama talk. The true sign of an immature juvenile hall graduate. Suddenly, it all makes sense.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:22 am
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bborzell wrote:
Twangster210 wrote:
By not returning it and getting a different amp you are sending the message to Fender.

Return it buy a different amp sends the message to Fender.

FIMC is sales driven, a rash of returns speaks more volume, it is money they lost that is business 101.


I don't see how either keeping it or returning it sends any message to Fender. Amps get returned all the time. It should be clear by now that this problem is not yet sufficiently pervasive for Fender to get nudged over the line into lessened profitability.

These amps sell by the tons and, as with any other complex electronic product, they have failure rates in the teens percentage wise and many different reasons for returns, most of which never get past the dealer, much less to the people at decision making levels at a company as large as Fender.

Best option is to call Fender Technical Support or simply buy another amp.


Do you believe the poetic waxings of a liberal, non-producing, journalistic wanabee who doesn't even own the product are going to influence a for profit company?

You are the textbook definition of an economically uneducated moron.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:24 am
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FWIW

Took my M3 to practice last night and it did great. I have not been able to hear any fizzy at least anything that is above the normal noise coming from the amp. Tried clean settings and plucked low E and just let it fade out until the normal noise takes over, middle notes high notes.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:13 pm
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Different folks hear different things. But we do know from several posters that Fender has privately acknowledged "a problem" and I have no doubt they are laboring to correct it ASAP.

In the meantime, I can't hear the quiet fizz on mine when I rock out so Bob's yer uncle.

BTW, crank up the volume a bit and then pluck very softly, and then listen closely for a soft, high fizz that follows the duration of the note.

Perhaps the problem manifests itself differently in different amps.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:17 pm
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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:07 pm
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"BTW, crank up the volume a bit and then pluck very softly, and then listen closely for a soft, high fizz that follows the duration of the note.

Perhaps the problem manifests itself differently in different amps."

I've listened loud and soft but the normal noise takes over any fizzy that might be there, nothing at all or near the clip that has been posted.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:51 pm
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The mystery deepens...

What makes this so weird is that modern SS amp building tolerances and assemblies are so rigidly controlled that to get such varying noises, or no noises at all from so many amps off the same assembly line is most odd. That may be contributing to Fender's difficulties in isolating the source.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:32 pm
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I recently purchased the Mustang V head and it is also suffering from this distorted/fizzy sound. The first time I used this amp I did not notice the fizzy sound. After first intial use I noticed the sound very easily on all the clean models.

The amp is powered from a Furman rp-8 power conditioner. I am using the amp with 2-2x12 speaker cabs @ 16ohms each. All instrument cords and speaker cords are brand new.

I read on another thread that someone bought the Fender cab and this problem went away. Has anyone else tried this? Seems odd to me. :?


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