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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:19 am
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jedi2b wrote:
I totally agree on the advantages of M3 in that situation.
You might want to give it a try using the princeton preset as it is very clean, but having more harmonics might mask the fizz in case it appears at the worst possible moment.
I think the twin and bassman would be your worst choices in the same respect.


I will give that a try. I never use the Princeton setting at home because it is very treble-boosted and as a result hiss is also boosted, requiring lots of noise-gate (which I dislike). But at a noisy gig that won't be an issue.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:21 pm
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I've spoken directly with Fender technical support at Fender, as have others here. Dates and conversations have been noted in prior postings in this long thread. You can look up the summaries of my conversations and those of others. Give it a rest. Your ad hominem attacks don't serve the community. Stick to the issues.

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If you want to think the "authorized Fender rep" at your local guitar center has any clue what is going on behind the scenes at Fender, be your own guest. I just hope there aren't any youngsters out there reading this and taking it seriously.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:12 pm
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cormorant wrote:
Brucefulton, please don't feel obligated to respond to ad hominem attacks.

brucefulton wrote:
Your ad hominem attacks don't serve the community.

:lol: somebody learned something new today! :D

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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:32 pm
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Scorpaeon wrote:
My amp was manufactured 11 2010.


Where do you find the manufactured date on the Mustang III?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:12 am
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Tony65 wrote:
Where do you find the manufactured date on the Mustang III?

Round back inside wall of the cab, there's a sticker.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:14 pm
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The Blackstar ID which was mentioned earlier in this thread is now on Sweetwater's site for pre-order.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:56 pm
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mmm a tube amp emulating other 6 tubes sounds bizarre to me :)


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:37 pm
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cormorant wrote:
The Blackstar ID which was mentioned earlier in this thread is now on Sweetwater's site for pre-order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KxmXN38zEg
not impressed :|

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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:09 am
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strings10927 wrote:
cormorant wrote:
The Blackstar ID which was mentioned earlier in this thread is now on Sweetwater's site for pre-order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KxmXN38zEg
not impressed :|


Me either...


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:30 am
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dhguitarro wrote:
strings10927 wrote:
cormorant wrote:
The Blackstar ID which was mentioned earlier in this thread is now on Sweetwater's site for pre-order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KxmXN38zEg
not impressed :|


Me either...


Seems to improve a lot when you hear a demo with some sort of mic on the actual cabinet rather than one held in the air and aimed halfway at the ceiling at a trade show :lol: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdMs5ea9 ... re=related


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:18 am
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Vulpinity wrote:

Seems to improve a lot when you hear a demo with some sort of mic on the actual cabinet rather than one held in the air and aimed halfway at the ceiling at a trade show :lol: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdMs5ea9rjc&feature


That's pretty impressive, although I would have liked to hear each clean tube emulation with no effects. No way to tell if it fizzes from these demos.

I don't see anything about external speaker jacks on the combos. The 1/4" input jacks do look to be metal though. It would be nice to see a picture of the back of one of these things.

Watt for watt it seems to be much more expensive than the Mustangs, however they claim that it gets the volume of a real tube amp. If that's the case, it would mean the 30-watt model gets the volume of say, the AC-30. I'd have to hear it to believe it, but if true, the 30 watt model would be somewhere in the volume range of the MIII, for $100 more.

I'd pay an extra $100 to get rid of the fizz. But I'll tell you one thing--I'm never again shelling out hundreds of $$$ to be an involuntary beta tester.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:20 am
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Vulpinity wrote:
Seems to improve a lot when you hear a demo with some sort of mic on the actual cabinet rather than one held in the air and aimed halfway at the ceiling at a trade show :lol: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdMs5ea9 ... re=related

I watched several, including this one. Still not impressed. It sounds so thin and 'boxy' to me. It seems like the speaker sims are severely lacking. I'm sure others would be happy with this amp, but it's not for me.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:41 am
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With the features it has, this new amp competes with the Mustang 1, at triple the price point... and with only 6 amp models... mmmm


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:26 am
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Hello to everybody in this forum
I just lurked on this topic and now I feel, its time to say a few words about it :-)

After a long time playing fender amps (brownface, blackface) on stage, i stumbled into "modelling" amps about 15(?) years ago...the big "vetta" from line6 was really a new impressive technology, and i played it on stage a long time, doing approx. 50 gigs per year (i am not a pro)..i even had 2 of them, one was backup cause i loved the possibilities of this amp. but getting older and hernia was starting to get an issue :-) I was looking for something which had less weight than this 35 kg of the vetta. so i began looking around, tried this and that, other manufactures as well...but it did not to seem to feel and sound right, and i still often played my vetta on stage.2 weeks ago i discoverd the mustang series and thought, well FENDER..this is what i want..checked out the reviews. and started to get "into" this amp. Finally i got myself an M5, carried it to our practice room, looked for this (little, not Fender) closed cab with a 15inch D130F in it (yes, even original cone) plugged it in, selected "bassman" on the mustang with no cab emulation, started playing and was just blown away from this amazing sound that came out of the cab...THAT was the sound i was missing so long, pure fender tone with punch and headroom..the old D130F sounded amazing. i checked the crunch of the amps...superb.."brownface sound" is also possible and even the hi-gains were sounding good...even though i dont need them so often with my kind of music.

In A/B comparison with the same cab to my vetta. the mustang sounded way more alive and dynamic...i would not have believed it if i was told so...but so I heard it by my own ears! After drying my tears of happiness...I suddenly heard a very unmusical "fizzling" at the end of a note...you know, what I mean!!!---and the adventure began...:-(

Well, what can i say, I went to all the stuff described in this forum...and after 1 week of research and reading i exchanged my M5 to another M5...hoping, this one is not fizzling...got it yesterday...and YES it is fizzling, same way, same sound, same s*** (sorry)

And YES, it is the poweramps, after I switched power-channels to the D130F cab, I figured out, that the left channel was way better than the right one which is really horrible...

To verify my thoughts, i connected a little stereo-power amp to the headphone jack, plugged in the cab...and there you go..clear, bright, crispy sound as it should be, my dear FENDER developers.

This leads me to the question WHY making such a big secret out of this whole issue? Why not saying: YES, we have a problem, and this is what is wrong in the power-amps?!??
Dear FENDER, everybody knows that this amp is a "low-budget" thing, no question...but I personally think FENDER did an amazing job designing the sound and feel of this amp, why messing things up by being so rude and ignorant to your customers? Why not being this what FENDER used to be? An innovative company which did(?) care for his musical friends??

After writing this I feel a bit better...and last to say, I think i am still trusting into FENDER...if the mustang wont do it for me, i am thinking of trying out the "mustang floor" with a 2x75 watts poweramp and my beloved D130F cab :-). This should work and give me back "my" sound...and when I think about this solution, i would be more flexible too with this and its even better to carry AND already has an expression pedal...:-)))) I will try this and if anybody is interested in the result, let me know!
So, I wish all the mustang fans, that FENDER reads this and starts listening again :-)
And even if you, FENDER, can't fix it whatsoever, let US USERS know whats wrong in the power-stage, I am sure, there will be enough users able to this fix this on their own!
I am sure, LEO would act like this! :-)
Regards from germany


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Post subject: Re: Mustang III - Digital Aliasing (Strange Fizz Sound)
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:05 am
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This leads me to the question WHY making such a big secret out of this whole issue? Why not saying: YES, we have a problem, and this is what is wrong in the power-amps?!??
Dear FENDER, everybody knows that this amp is a "low-budget" thing, no question...but I personally think FENDER did an amazing job designing the sound and feel of this amp, why messing things up by being so rude and ignorant to your customers?


For the same reason Toyota is not going to apologize because my Toyota does not handle like a Corvette. If a Corvette can handle cornering so well, why doesn't every car? Does that add up to a shortcoming of the majority of the automotive industry? Or is it a case of "my car is what it is, no wonder it doesn't corner like a Corvette, it didn't cost $50,000 like a Corvette!"

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