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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:13 pm
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In defense of those making the factory presets...they are going to respond differently to every different guitar that's plugged in, so it's an impossible task to make presets that will sound good to everyone. I mean even the tones that are programmed in by the artists themselves, like the Eric Johnson and Steve Vai tones on the GDEC, need to be tweaked to your particular guitar to sound their best.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 11:19 pm
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Thanks for all the replies :)

I did it :) Now I need to play with it :)

I got the Mustang 1

Some initial recordings: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=55599

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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:32 am
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Rockcat wrote:
If you want to get a bigger, fuller tone from your Mustangs, drop the sag right down! :wink:


ya i've been doing this for awhile now and keep forgetting to post this.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:09 pm
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rolling56 wrote:
Rockcat wrote:
If you want to get a bigger, fuller tone from your Mustangs, drop the sag right down! :wink:


ya i've been doing this for awhile now and keep forgetting to post this.


What is the Sag?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:36 pm
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When you are in fuse, click on the Advanced Amp button on the right hand side of the screen, that will give you a new set of things to adjust...noise gate, sag, bias, cabinet. And a few models have other things, like channel blend (just called blend) or master volume.

Personally, I find the Bias changes to be very subtle. But on all the high gain amp models, I lowered the sag...makes them much more immediate...otherwise, it felt like I was playing an amp that was stuck at the other end of a long, deep cave!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:31 pm
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I found the Mustang 1 V2 's model and effects control knobs to be a nuisance. And the Fuse software breaks the design rule that so many others are--they spend so much on cosmetics to make it look entertaining that they actually make it harder to use. Knobs are made for human hands to turn. Turning them with a mouse cursor eats up time.

Here's the absolute bottom line for me, if you're already great at just playing the guitar and you want to spend a lot of time fiddling around with models and effects for a sound your looking for for a song to record, then knock yourself out with modelling amps or gear. But if you're a beginner or intermediate guitarist, getting technology that is demanding for far-fetched effects and amp models you'll probably never use then you are way better off with a simple amplifier with a small range of easy effects.

I don't own the Marshall (yet) but after the time I wasted before selling the Mustang I wish I would have just gotten the amp in my price range that would be the most transparent to use. The Marshall's array of features appears to be more apt to let an amateur concentrate more on actually guitar playing than "sound engineering". Frankly I don't give that much of a crap anymore about loading up folders and folders of presets (like technology pack rats I used to know that just had to have every desktop publishing program and vector graphics package on their hard drives even though they couldn't begin to do anything with them) or farting around with a mouse cursor trying to drag dials around to see what they do.

The impulse to just plug in and play is important to remember and not lose sight of. Is that what you like to do? Or are you already so good, you're interested in a whole bunch of interface overkill to find a sound. To me, all that junk winds up killing that impulse to just start putting fingers and picks to strings. That's why I'm researching the Marshall. I currently have a Behringer acoustic amp which was my visceral reaction against getting modelling junk out of my life and just plugging in and concentrating on getting and staying good at playing the guitar. Now that I've used JamPlay and just acoustic and have learned important fundamentals I only sort of aped with my Strat (which was also sold) I'm back for an electric and and amp that lets me get a sound of three in a pinch and just get to the music making. There's something I learned a long time ago at School of Visual Arts where I studied interface design--it's called "the law of diminishing astonishment" and whoever designs Fuse ought to learn it. After the initial awe, the novelty of the cosmetics ends very quickly and getting control and productivity trumps all.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:28 am
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I used to have an MG15.
I could dial in one very nice OD sound but all the controls on the amp and guitar had to be just so. Cleans were thin. Tweaking the OD went rapidly to nasty screeching distortion.
(I didn't have the FX model)
I play every evening and might spend 1/2 an hour in 20 evenings messing around in Fuse - sure it takes a while to get to know the amp, but it's massively versatile.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang I vs Marshall MG 15 FX
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:11 am
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markcc wrote:
sure it takes a while to get to know the amp, but it's massively versatile.

This is exactly why this amp shines. At this price point you get a LOT of bang for your buck. I was on the fence between the Marshall MG30 and Mustang II and opted for the Mustang based on all the rave reviews here. Versatility here is key. You can make this amp as simple as you want or have it be as complex as you want it. Right out of the box, you can just turn off all the FX and Use the knobs right on top. I can completely relate to not wanting to bother with Fuse so when I found myself getting too deep in preset land, I just decided to pick the amp models I like the best, tweak the sag and bias to my liking, and save those clean with no stomp (maybe a little compression) on the Green slots, and maybe with a little extra gain on the Amber. Cant overwrite the amber slots but this is handy if you accidentally blow over a green preset, you can just pull it from its amber counterpart and bum down the gain and you’re back in business sans Fuse. My Red slots tend to have the same preset as Green and Amber with perhaps a stomp added in Fuse. But I use a couple of external pedals so not even really a need. Then you have the Mod and DLY/RVB knobs which you can customize in Fuse and save over the factory slots. That’s a huge game changer for me. I basically set up a couple of choruses (mild and a wet), a flanger, a couple of Phasers, and a couple variation of Vibratone. Same goes for the DLY/RVB knobs. Yeah it took me a bit to program this but now I rarely hook up to fuse and everything I need is right there on top.

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