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Post subject: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:17 pm
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Just curious. How many of you are using your own pedals with the Mustangs, particularly the Mustang III and IV. What are your results? Are you running them through the effects loops?


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:11 pm
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The only thing I'm using is a wah pedal. I'm getting everything else I need from the Mustang (IV). I use first channel for clean (clean blues); 2nd channel add some dirt for some classic rock; 3rd channel same as #2, but it kicks in an overdrive pedal for solos. 4th channel is my VH sound (always a must have sometime or another!)


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:30 pm
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I use a digitech whammy and a bad horsie 2 wah, If i use them in the effect loop it boosts the effect tremendously, to where the wah almost becomes more of a volume pedal.
I prefer to put them in front of the amp instead of the effect loop. If you have effects that are staying the same most of the time like delay, reverb, etc. they should work good in the effect loop.
But tone changers like pitch shifters and wah pedals work better before hitting the amp, but thats just me..


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:06 pm
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I have a pedal board I use with my BDRI. Barber Tone Press to a Dano TOD to a OCD to a Bad Monkey to a Dano Chorus to a Sonic Maxiamizer. Tone Press and TOD on all the time, switch between the OCD and BM for gain.

Started out using it with my Mustang III and got really good results. Once I got the four button footswitch for the Mustang been running without the pedal board and using the built in effects. I don't use a lot of gain even with my pedal boards. Been mostly playing the Mustang on two presets with the 65 Deluxe with the compressor, one preset has a little more gain than the other.

Tone heaven.


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:25 am
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Hi. I use use a mono volume pedal through the effects loop on my Mustang IV. I use two 'Y' adaptor cables to feed the pedal because the loop is stereo. It works great but if you wanted to use other stereo effects in the same loop you will need to get a stereo volume pedal and they ain't cheap!


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:55 am
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Just for curiosity sakes, I tried a SD-1 in front. Sounds ok as just a pure boost but turn the gain up and it gets harsh.

I'm trying to think why it is. Maybe the front end ss amp or ADC can't handle a clipped signal?

Fortunately, its not a problem with the built in OD pedal and amp gain.


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:28 pm
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I'm using a Vox Tonelab LE with my Mustang III. At first I tried plugging the guitar right into the Mustang and running the Tonelab through the effects loop, but that sounded really harsh and brittle, even after I disabled the effects and cabinet models in the Mustang and set everything flat. So then I plugged my guitar into the Tonelab and ran the stereo outputs from that into the Aux input on the Mustang. That sounds MUCH better. Now I'm thinking about getting an A/B/Y switchbox so I can play the guitar through the Mustang, the Tonelab, or both simultaneously.

I still haven't tried going through the Tonelab before the Mustang, but maybe I'll give that a shot and see how it sounds.


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:20 pm
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If you like SRV overdrive blues tones read my post:Great Overdrive Blues Tone!


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:28 am
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Thought I'd try this over the weekend. The only time it would ever be needed is when I get together with a friend to jam. It would be nice to just grab the small, light Mustang I rather than one of my heavy tube amps. However, with the Mustang I and footswitch, I've only got two footswitchable tones. So if I could run an OD/Dist pedal through a clean model, that would give me a third.

However, I don't think it's going to work. My clean model of choice would be the 65 Twin. But by the time you dial in a nice, sparkly, glassy top end, it makes the OD pedals sound really harsh and shrill...not really useable.

Though to be honest, I think it's really the speaker as much as anything...it tends to get a little ratty on the top end with the distortion tones. On the distorted amp models, you can pull back the treble to compensate, but that doesn't work here.

I did find that it worked much better with the 65 Deluxe Reverb model, but those clean tones, while nice, aren't as nice and sparkly! We'll see...if I want the flexibility badly enough, I may have to compromise there!


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:02 pm
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See above my comments using my pedalboard. Been playing just with the 4 button and presets last week or so (OK gigged with my BDRI and pedalboard and too lazy to unpack it). Set up a Bassman preset with the advance compressor on a clean to slight overdrive and a Bassman with the OD pedal. Using the pedal to kick the stompbox on and off.

Well it has been so good took it to practice for a gig this weekend and it sounded great. Simple setup and quick tweak for the practice room. Two of the bandmates commented on the tone I was getting. The FULL tone could go from clean to crunch just with the volume knob.

Thinking about taking it to the gig this Saturday. It's outside but I think the Stang3 can keep up.


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:33 pm
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I originally had visions of using a number of my pedals (Wampler Esctasy & PlexiDrive, Hardwire Chorus, Reissue Phase 90), but the truth is, they're really not much better than the tone I get from the onboard effects - especially the overdrives - I far prefer the dirt tones I'm getting out of the Mustang.

I am thinking about getting a VooDoo lab Wahzoo, just because I play a fair bit of funk and the onboard touch/autowah just isn't quite the tone I'm looking for. That aside, I'm pretty happy with what's here. The only other addition may be a compressor (I've got a MXR Supercomp I really like) - the onboard comps just aren't *squishy* enough for me - they're more on the subtle side.


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:29 pm
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Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, That is all! I am really enjoying the on board setting as if the sound isn't quiet the same as what I am trying to play I can easily tweak it to come real dang close.

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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:17 am
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I use a Morley Bad Horsie 2 Steve Vai Wah pedal. That's all so far.

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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:19 am
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tkdunn17 wrote:
The only other addition may be a compressor (I've got a MXR Supercomp I really like) - the onboard comps just aren't *squishy* enough for me - they're more on the subtle side.


What does the compressor do for you? Over the years I've tried them with guitars, vocals, recording - I never really hear a difference. I'm interested to know what one would do if added to the guitar/amp...


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Post subject: Re: How many use your pedals with the Mustangs?
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:15 pm
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tjinca1 wrote:
tkdunn17 wrote:
The only other addition may be a compressor (I've got a MXR Supercomp I really like) - the onboard comps just aren't *squishy* enough for me - they're more on the subtle side.


What does the compressor do for you? Over the years I've tried them with guitars, vocals, recording - I never really hear a difference. I'm interested to know what one would do if added to the guitar/amp...
It is definitely a subtle effect, but I use it for two major things, 1) for a clean rhythm sound, it gives you that tight, crisp rhythm sound you hear on lots of old school funk records from the 70s/80s - like Prince's "Kiss" or anything by Nile Rodgers, 2) I like to use it on solos so I can keep the gain down, but still get the sustain. My favorite solo tone is something close to what David Gilmour gets on that fantastic solo at the end of "Another Brick In The Wall" - not a lot of gain there, but those notes just sing like crazy - that's the magic of compression for me :) It also thickens up single coil pickups quite nicely, ala Jerry Reed.


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