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Post subject: Can the Mustang be hooked up to a PA?
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:38 pm
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I was thinking about using the Mustang I at a gig and maybe hooking it up to the P/A since it's only got the 8 inch speaker. I could put a mic in front of the speaker but i was wondering - is it possible to connect it to a P/A using the head phone output? I guess you would have to use a converter cable from the smaller 1/8 inch to a 1/4 quarter switchcraft connector to plug it in but would it be the right level? Our P/A can adjust the level on the input so it should work. Any thoughts?


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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:47 pm
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It's a hot line level out (because of the additional headphone amp inline) so stick it into one of your line level inputs. Most PA heads have stereo 1/4" phone jack line ins for a keyboard. Then adjust the input pad to make sure you're not overdriving the input. Headphone outs tend to be a bit hotter than a straight line out.

Cord: Stereo 1/8" male mini-phone plug to 2 1/4" male mono plugs. Might need RCA-to-phone adapters if you only can get it out to 2 RCA plugs.


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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:47 pm
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Sweet! Thanks!


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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:55 am
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Musicmaster2 wrote:
It's a hot line level out (because of the additional headphone amp inline) so stick it into one of your line level inputs. Most PA heads have stereo 1/4" phone jack line ins for a keyboard. Then adjust the input pad to make sure you're not overdriving the input. Headphone outs tend to be a bit hotter than a straight line out.

Cord: Stereo 1/8" male mini-phone plug to 2 1/4" male mono plugs. Might need RCA-to-phone adapters if you only can get it out to 2 RCA plugs.


What this guy said.

Also, you may want to edit your presets for being put through a P/A to avoid useless "woof". Don't forget, the headphone "out" is designed for cabinet simulation, which adds a certain amount of resonance. You don't want your power chords going "woof woof" when they need to "chug chug".


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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:36 am
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It looks like even the sounds played thru the Mustang itself are speaker emulated(presets with speaker cabs). Is there even more coming out the headphone jack?

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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:48 am
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wow, it seems like you're right!

that's nuts! but it sounds sooo good


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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:49 am
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Because the speaker is FRFR, they use cab emulations both for the speaker output and the headphone output. But they can also be turned off if desired.


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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:36 am
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i've had some problems with the direct output. but it's a little tricky to uncover because i'm using a lot of stuff. everything works great on it's own, but when together i'm getting some unpredictable results.

here's the signal flow.
Mustand I headphone out --> 1/8" stereo cable (9") --> radial AV2 DI box

from the di box, i can take either L or R xlr outs into the pa and it works. that's really good.

bad news, the DI box is supposed to parrellel output. I have a TRS insert cable plugged into the two 1/4" ins on the radial, with the TRS end going into a behringer micromon400 i think. that little dude allows me to mix a monitor signal (mono or stereo, i have it set to stereo) with a mic into my own headphones. works great usually. when i have the mustang set up like this, i DO get the mustang in, though also with a lot of hum. but it will KILL my mic input when it's plugged in? what the hey?

i know that's a ton of stuff, no idea where to start. i did also do a little experiment with using those 1/4" outs to go to it's own little PA, and it worked a lot better, but i hooked that one up using a planet waves circuit breaker cable. even when i have the circuit broken, i'm still getting some signal through. that shouldn't happen.

Anybody super brilliant at trouble shooting that can help me figure out how to diganose what could be going on here?

appeciate it!

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alright boys and girls. i have something predictable, but still not sure what to do. if the sound board is off, everything works the way i would expect it.


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I a litte confused. Can someone if it is 'safe' to connect to a DI box using a 1/8 cable to 1/4 cable. Then from the DI box it is connected to the PA system via the XLR out. I guess I don't know what a speaker emulated headline out connection is.


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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:32 pm
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What do you need the DI box for? Most PA's have line-ins with pad pots to help match line levels and prevent overdriving the input. High impedance out from the Stang, high impedance line in on the PA, no problemo.


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Musicmaster2 wrote:
What do you need the DI box for? Most PA's have line-ins with pad pots to help match line levels and prevent overdriving the input. High impedance out from the Stang, high impedance line in on the PA, no problemo.


I am using a PA in a church where the PA is far from the stage. There are cables coming out of a box that connect to a DI with a XLR cable. I was trying to figure out how I could use this amp at church without micing it.


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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:42 am
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All depends if the 1/4" input jack on the DI is looking for a guitar-level or a line level. If guitar the line out'll be too hot.


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Musicmaster2 wrote:
All depends if the 1/4" input jack on the DI is looking for a guitar-level or a line level. If guitar the line out'll be too hot.


So I would need to use special DI box that had the option of receiving a line level input? Would I need something like a behringer Ultra-DI DI100. Are there other devices that work better for this situation?


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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:04 pm
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Depends on the sensitivity of the input on the DI. As everybody knows, you can play a a line-level signal into a guitar amp without distortion if you keep the level nice and low. So if you turn your Master way down you might be able to sneak by even though it's potentially a mismatch level-wise. Impedance-wise you're fine. Both Hi-Z. Of course, the DI box converts to balanced Lo-Z.


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