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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:38 am
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Hi guys,

Unfortunately most laptops don't offer a "line out" and just have "headphones" which is a totally different animal than line out. Line out is a pure signal (not amplified, very little), whereas headphone is amplified to drive the headphone speakers, which can create noise. You could try to adjust the volume/gain levels to reduce the noise (coming from the laptop). I have a Acer 1810t laptop and get a fair bit of noise as well (cheap on board sound cards), not much you can do. Most of the time I hook my iPhone to the Mustang and it sounds much better (?).

to quote someone:

"Line level outputs typically have a source impedance of 50 to a few hundred ohms. They are intended to drive loads that have a high input impedance, usually greater than 5k ohms. They are typically optimized for very low noise and low distortion when used with high impedance loads.

Headphone outputs typically have a source impedance less than a hundred ohms and the better ones have a source impedance of a few ohms or less. They are intended to drive the lower impedance's presented by headphones which typically range from 16 ohms to 300 ohms. They are optimized for being able to drive higher current and for delivering reasonable distortion and noise with low impedance loads.

Line level outputs usually do poorly when driving headphones because their higher source impedance will not properly damp the driver at low frequencies and they can suffer from high frequency roll-off when loaded with significant capacitance.

Headphone outputs can be used to drive line level loads and can provide good noise and distortion performance but are typically not as good as line level outputs."

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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:54 pm
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Those are great points, and very important to skewer any manufacturer that glibly states, "Just use the headphone out as a line-level out."

That's ok for live where the headphone amp noise won't matter much with all the other noise going on, but disastrous for recording where noise levels are critical. A headphone out with the tiny, poorly shielded 1/8" mini-phone jack going into an unbalanced line and the generally low-quality headphone amp inline are just the worst for trying to get a good recording.

Fortunately Fender solves this elegantly with the USB-record in the G-DEC 3's and Mustangs sorely lacking in the original G-DEC series.

Headphone out: Great for headphones, kinda/sorta ok for live-into-PA.

Bad for critical recording.


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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:28 am
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joec63 wrote:
Don't think so, looks like creating presets and changing parameters with effects and amp models only. Don't see mp3/wav playback capability. These price points are fairly low at $99/$199 to have the full functional capability of the GDEC.


On page 8 of the 12-page Fuse manual, I read the manual for the included Fuse software and it looked like playing and adding band tracks via Fuse is no problem what so ever!

Manual here: http://support.fender.com/manuals/software/fender_software/fender_fuse/FenderFUSE_v2.0_manual_English.pdf


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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:22 am
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Hey Guys,

I just wanted to let you know that you can play Band Tracks in Fender FUSE with the Mustang amps, even assign a track to a preset, the difference being that the Band Tracks will play from your computer, not on the amp itself. However, you can simply run a 3.5mm cable from the output of your computer's sound card to the aux input on the amp and have a Band Track functionality similar to the G-DEC 3's.

Loren


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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:34 am
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Loren Howard - Fender wrote:
Hey Guys,

I just wanted to let you know that you can play Band Tracks in Fender FUSE with the Mustang amps, even assign a track to a preset, the difference being that the Band Tracks will play from your computer, not on the amp itself. However, you can simply run a 3.5mm cable from the output of your computer's sound card to the aux input on the amp and have a Band Track functionality similar to the G-DEC 3's.

Loren


Hey Loren,
Will this option work if I plug in my headphones in to the amps headphones jack for a quiet practice? Will there be any feedback, distortion or loss of quality?


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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:30 am
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Hello Bluesdelux,

Yes this will work through headphones as well. Any loss in sound quality would most likely be barely perceptible.

Loren


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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:50 am
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jmbuess wrote:
The Mustang I works fine with an ipod playing backing tracks through aux in. However when I hook my computer headphones out to the aux in there is a lot of background noise. Any idea what might cause this and how to get rid of it? (Sony Vaio with Windows 7)


Hey jmbuess, did you ever find a solution to the noise when using the headphones out? I had the same issue with my mustang. Unfortunately, I only have a headphones out and no other option on my PC. What I did was run a 1/8 cable from my pc headphones out to the 1/8 IN of my Edirol monitors. Then ran a cable from the monitor's headphones out to the Mustang's Aux in. Works like a charm!!!


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Post subject: Re: Backing tracks?-SOLVED
Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:35 pm
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Dumb Error - too used to LINUX, you know, a REAL OS.

Was a clean install of XP but had no sound as I forgot that laptop needed BenQ soundcard driver - downloaded and installed it, booted FUSE, went to media library, double clicked backing-track and it played through laptop inbuilt speakers. Volume was not high enough, will have to sort that - undoubtedly XP setting somewhere needs changing.


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