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Post subject: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:15 pm
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Got the exp-1 today. Already hate it. So the button activates random functions on each patch. The button is hair trigger and if I get close to the top it switches. So now what? Open it up and fix the switch somehow? And for expression controlling wah I've got to enable it and setup each patch to do this through fuse? I want volume control and wah available on every patch since that would be easy sounds like that's not possible without editing every patch via a pc.


I'm about ready to return the whole lot since connecting it to my pc isn't convenient at all. Today the mustang pushed me into super annoyed region where I end up packing things up and returning them.

I have the ms-4, ms2, ordered a pedalboard the whole thing.....I finally shut it off and walked away.


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Post subject: Re: Exp1
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:45 pm
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So I found in the manual where you can set up the expression from the data wheel menu. Whew.

I pulled it apart and like someone else I saw online put washers between the screw mounts and the PCB to give it some space so it doesn't trigger so soon. Its still relatively easy to push but its actually stage useful now. One of the screws on the bottom was wedged in and stripped immediately, managed to get it out. Tomorrow a run to the hardware store should resolve that....

Got new screws - my EXP-1 (brand new from the box) needs 2 x #6 washers between the PCB and screw hole in the front right next to where the switch is for it to work correctly. Great QA fender... ~1/16" of an inch off. Thanks for outsourcing to China and saving 15 cents per unit!


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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:38 am
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So now I've got this problem - viewtopic.php?f=27&t=72065&start=60

If the MS-4 4 button FS is connected to the EXP-1s LEDs won't come on. If I plug/unplug in the "correct" sequence it will work, but I can't have it connected to the amp and power up the amp otherwise the LEDs light then go out. If the MS-4 isn't connected its never a problem they always light.

MS-4 is definitely matching product number to the correct one for Mustang IV. Its brand new out of the box.

EXP-1 is brand new out of the box. Using Fenders cables and tried others, no good. Amp has latest 2.2 firmware on it.

Well not only do the lights not light but the EXP-1 won't even work until I unplug/plug the cable in.


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Post subject: Re: Exp1
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:43 am
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You can also have Fender send you a new EXP-1 that works flawlessly.

The EXP-1 allows you to configure it for Expression use of any one attribute parameter for each of the 100 Presets in the Mustang Amp. As you have discovered this may be accomplished entirely via the Amp's Data Wheel. There is no need to use FUSE, unless you wish to position the EXP-1 differently in the signal chain. The EXP-1 also may be used as a Volume Pedal for each Preset.

If you have an Android devive the REMUDA App also supports full EXP-1 Editing, configuration and Saving for each Preset. Many feel it does so easier than FUSE.

Should you do a Factory Reset on your Amp, you will need to recalibrate the EXP-1. Calibrating the EXP-1 cannot be accomplished if it is connected through the 4btn fsw! The EXP-1 must be plugged directly into the Mustang for the calibration procedure.

There is a lot of configuration and editing associated with dialing in the EXP-1 to your liking for each Preset. This is not a Global process. The desired parameters must be adjusted, set, and Saved to each Preset for them to be preserved in the Preset. This process repeats for every Preset you wish to configure for the EXP-1. Many of the default Factory Presets (00-82) already have an EXP-1 associated configuration, that you may or may not like.

If you find the Mustang's and EXP-1's varied and extensive editing capabilities to be beyond your level of desire or interest, or be too complex, the Mustang may not be for you.

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Post subject: Re: Exp1
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:55 am
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MusicLaw wrote:
You can also have Fender send you a new EXP-1 that works flawlessly.

The EXP-1 allows you to configure it for Expression use of any one attribute parameter for each of the 100 Presets in the Mustang Amp. As you have discovered this may be accomplished entirely via the Amp's Data Wheel. There is no need to use FUSE, unless you wish to position the EXP-1 differently in the signal chain. The EXP-1 also may be used as a Volume Pedal for each Preset.

If you have an Android devive the REMUDA App also supports full EXP-1 Editing, configuration and Saving for each Preset. Many feel it does so easier than FUSE.

Should you do a Factory Reset on your Amp, you will need to recalibrate the EXP-1. Calibrating the EXP-1 cannot be accomplished if it is connected through the 4btn fsw! The EXP-1 must be plugged directly into the Mustang for the calibration procedure.

There is a lot of configuration and editing associated with dialing in the EXP-1 to your liking for each Preset. This is not a Global process. The desired parameters must be adjusted, set, and Saved to each Preset for them to be preserved in the Preset. This process repeats for every Preset you wish to configure for the EXP-1. Many of the default Factory Presets (00-82) already have an EXP-1 associated configuration, that you may or may not like.

If you find the Mustang's and EXP-1's varied and extensive editing capabilities to be beyond your level of desire or interest, or be too complex, the Mustang may not be for you.


This one is brand new -

So after further testing... if the EXP-1 is connected to the amp without the MS-4 it works fine. if the MS-4 only connected - works fine. If the EXP-1 is connected to the MS-4 the EXP-1 won't work until I shut off the amp, connect only the EXP-1 power up, then connect the MS-4. I've already reflashed firmware and reset everything back to defaults....

Oh it's not that any of this is too complicated, its that it doesn't work properly. The only complication is that I absolutely have to power up without the MS-4 connected to the EXP-1.


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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:01 pm
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I have two EXP-1 units, one for my MIV v.2 and one for my MIII v.2. Both amps are running the current (several years old) firmware version 2.2. Each EXP-1 works extremely well.

The EXP-1 must be properly calibrated to the Amp. This must be done without the 4btn fsw connected. Once you successfully calibrate the EXP-1, if you will also be using the 4btn fsw, the EXP-1 must be connected to the 4btn fsw. The 4btn fsw gets connected to the amp.

Check to confirm that you have them connected in the correct wiring sequence.

If still a problem, do a factory reset on your amp without the EXP-1 nor 4 btn fsw connected! Then recalibrate the EXP-1 - without the 4btn fsw connected.

I am presuming that your amp has firmware version 2.2 installed. If not, you will need to download that version and use fuse to install it to your amp. Then do the factory reset, then recalibrate the EXP-1.

If still no good post your findings and we Fender Forum Users can try to get you through the setup. Fender TSL can also help, and they are available via phone.

I did not read the 60+ posts in the thread you cited; only the last few of the very old 2012 dated posts.

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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:10 pm
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Brand new or not, if it is faulty you won't get it to operate/perform properly. Regardless if the issue is the switch mechanism (electro-mechanical) or the electronics.

BTW, have you found your 4btn fsw to be fully operational in all of its Modes and Tuner mode?

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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:14 pm
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recalibrated 100 times. That wasnt it. The 4 button FS works without an issue in all modes, tuner, etc.

talking with GC about replacing the EXP-1.

The problem I have as the user in the other thread.... fender had him replace the MS-4, issue came back, - so the last correspondence was that his amp might need to be replaced...Im worred the amp is the problem.


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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:20 pm
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dnottis wrote:
recalibrated 100 times. That wasnt it. The 4 button FS works without an issue in all modes, tuner, etc.

talking with GC about replacing the EXP-1.

The problem I have as the user in the other thread.... fender had him replace the MS-4, issue came back, - so the last correspondence was that his amp might need to be replaced...Im worred the amp is the problem.
I'm confident Fender will make things right. It might be inconvenient for a bit. Hopefully matters get straightened out for you soon.

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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:38 am
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New EXP-1 from Guitar Center on the truck for delivery today - wish me luck....


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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:35 pm
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Guitar center sent me an Fvp-1 I think this is a sign it's time to throw in the towel this just ain't happening.


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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:11 pm
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dnottis wrote:
Guitar center sent me an Fvp-1 I think this is a sign it's time to throw in the towel this just ain't happening.
Why let GC's mistake stifle your creativiy or affect your independent decision.

Demand GC overnight you the correct item! Then, you'll be able to make up your mind if the Mustang system is right for you (within your remaining duration to return the items to GC if not satisfied).

Creativity rarely follows a smooth path. There are sometimes bumps along the way.

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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
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I made gc overnight me a new one got some money off for 40 mins driving to return their error. New came last night and works perfect!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Exp-1 is all kinds of fail.....
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:46 pm
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dnottis wrote:
I made gc overnight me a new one got some money off for 40 mins driving to return their error. New came last night and works perfect!!!!
Awesome! Way to Go!!

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