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Post subject: REMUDA
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:28 pm
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Head's up to you MusicLaw. I got Remuda Lite up and running on my Mustang Amp and the Mustang Floor. She looks beautiful and perfect on my HTC One M8 smart phone. Much better than I ever imagined. I am not sure how everything works just yet because I am limited with time this week but she seems to be doing everything she is supposed to do. I will report back. Thanks to the Dev and to you for bringing this to our attention.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:31 pm
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For those of you that are using Remuda, I have a few issues I would like to comment on to see if anyone can enlighten me. I am currently testing the waters using Remuda *Lite*.

When I connect my smart phone to my amp while using Remuda, I cannot use voice searches (like google), or any type of voice texting or voice writing like for instance to my ColorNote app or even my voice recorder. It disables my phone's microphone. Why?

Also, when I edit a preset and then delete Remuda from my phone entirely including any data and cache that I can find, when I reinstall Remuda the changes I made to the presets still show up and I cannot figure out a way to get them back to their default settings.

Also, Remuda wants a sensitive permission to write *WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE* although Remuda isn't telling me this another app is and I assume that is to my amp. Correct? I do not have an SD card currently in my phone.

The good news is it is really fun sitting on my comfy couch casually tweaking presets to the nth degree while being comfortably numb whatever that means. Oh yeah, PF!

The firmware on my amp is up to date. Thoughts anyone?

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:43 pm
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Glad that you are enjoying the App. Edits and tweaking from the convenience of the couch really adds a new level of Mustang fun!

Have no idea what the microphone app conflict may be with your smartphone. I've never tried using my smartphone in that manner while running Remuda. Most of the time, I'm using Remuda on one of my Tablets.

Nonetheless, your best solution will come from emailing the Developer. Even though he is not on the Fender Forums, he is very responsive!

As for the edits, Remuda remembers your preferred Amp settings and FX settings. These, as well as Favorite flags and any Performance mode Song and Set List assignments are written to Remuda's own independent data store. From your depiction, it sounds like these may not be removed when you deleted the App. The best method to use is the OS's App Manager to Uninstall the App.

If you Saved any of your edits using Remuda, these are saved to the Amp. These now changed Presets on the Amp are what Remuda would read when you were to next install and launch Remuda. To revert your Presets back to the Amp's Factory Defaults requires, either, a Factory Reset on the Amp, or, Restoring the Backup file you would have needed to previously create using Remuda (or FUSE). Remuda's Backup and Restore features are via the Settings dialog. Using the Cancel button in any of Remuda's edit dialogs, cancels all edits while in that dialog and no changes are saved to the amp.

The special permission to write external storage may be related to Remuda's independent data store and it's Backup File system features as seen by your device's Android version. There is a comment by the Developer about this permission issue and Android 6.x in the Remuda Lite Google Play reviews. Definitely bring this up to the Developer.

The Remuda Lite and Full version are identical. The exceptions are the Free Lite version has a limit of 8 Presets, and each version writes its own data store and backup files so they do not get confused.

Hope this helps somewhat. Post back if I can assist further.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:40 am
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Last night I forwarded this entire thread (your posts and my reply) to Remuda's Developer. He replied this morning. He welcomes hearing from you and seeking to resolve the causes underlying the problems. His reply is below. For brevity your paragraphs are removed.

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I sure do wish I could get onto the forums. I had a friend try to sign up and he had no luck either. The signup process goes great but then he can never log in. I’ll try to contact the forum administrator again.

I believe that the contention between the USB and his microphone is device specific. I use the speech recognition on my Samsung devices to enter preset and song names all the time. I have had one review that mentioned “messing up his phone so he couldn’t make a call” but my attempts at contacting that individual never produced any results.

You can see my replies to his questions below. By and large your replies were completely accurate.

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I think that the USB may be using a Digital Signal Processor instead of a dedicated chip. This DSP is probably also required for processing the microphone (perhaps all audio) input. I can’t find anything on the web to support this theory BUT I would really like to work with this user to see if I can determine the source of the conflict at least as far as I can go to minimize the time in which the conflict occurs. Perhaps I am NOT releasing ALL of the USB resources properly UNTIL the cable is actually disconnected. Now that would argue for the “hard stop” for which you have advocated.

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I interpret this ONLY to mean that the user is unsure of where the actual presets are stored. You provide guidance on the more subtle feature of remembering Parameter preferences whereas I think he thinks that I store preset info on the App somehow (other than in Backup/Restore). You provide him the instructions to reset ALL presets some maybe that is all he was looking for. This is the sort of thing that needs several paragraphs in the Help file to explain and then there is still a chance that the reader will be given the wrong impression.

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I assume he is on Android 6.0 HOWEVER I can’t quite make sense of what he reports. His statement that “Remuda isn't telling me this another app is”, is inconsistent with what I know happens UNLESS he is referring to the Android OS as “the other app”. The OS has made this process deliberately difficult and it will not even allow the developer to pass along a “reason” to the request to use these sensitive resources. BTW the request is required to create the MUSIC/REMUDA/BACKUP folder AND to write the backup. The READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission is automatically granted when the WRITE permission is granted so the user will not see that I also need READ to read the available media file in the Backing track selector in performance mode.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:01 pm
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Thanks MusicLaw to all of the above. Where to begin, I am kind of limited on time this week but will try to post some followups as we go.

Firstly, I would like to thank you and the Dev for your time and I will be purchasing this App ASAP and will be getting out of the lite mode so I can better understand it's full functionality with all of the presets, plus I want to support the hard work that has been put into Remuda.

I use to sit on that comfy couch with my small Netbook using Fuse and it had real estate issues running Fuse on a 10 inch screen. Remuda rocks though even on my smart phone and I understand there will be some minor issues as its development progresses along.

>>> The best method to use is the OS's App Manager to Uninstall the App.

I am running Android Lollipop 5.0.1 but my HTC One M8 will be upgrading to Android Marshmallow 6.0 very soon. I *am* using the OS's App Manager to Uninstall the App.

>>>If you Saved any of your edits using Remuda, these are saved to the Amp. These now changed Presets on the Amp are what Remuda would read when you were to next install and launch Remuda. To revert your Presets back to the Amp's Factory Defaults requires, either, a Factory Reset on the Amp, or, Restoring the Backup file you would have needed to previously create using Remuda (or FUSE). Remuda's Backup and Restore features are via the Settings dialog. Using the Cancel button in any of Remuda's edit dialogs, cancels all edits while in that dialog and no changes are saved to the amp.

What I should have done was backed up Remuda before I started editing presets. My bad. I could then easily restore back after some of my Frankensteinish (sic) edits of presets just to see what this bad boy can do under the hood. Sorry, for a second I was thinking Ford Mustang Cobra. :)

>>>The special permission to write external storage may be related to Remuda's independent data store

I don't understand. Where is the data store? 711? Stop and Go? Sorry again, just had to, but it would be cool to know where the data is being stored. I use the ES File Explorer App and it has been really evolving as of late and maybe not in a good way but if I can recall maybe it was the App that told me Remuda was wanting this sensitive special privilege. I dunno but I will let you know as soon as I know.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:22 pm
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I think that the USB may be using a Digital Signal Processor instead of a dedicated chip. This DSP is probably also required for processing the microphone (perhaps all audio) input. I can’t find anything on the web to support this theory BUT I would really like to work with this user to see if I can determine the source of the conflict at least as far as I can go to minimize the time in which the conflict occurs. Perhaps I am NOT releasing ALL of the USB resources properly UNTIL the cable is actually disconnected. Now that would argue for the “hard stop” for which you have advocated.

This is not going to be helpful but just sayin. When i disconnect the cable from the amp and *leave* the cable hooked up to the phone Remuda automatically closes and full voice dictation and recognition functionality comes back. Duh, right?

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:29 pm
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HIO wrote:
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I think that the USB may be using a Digital Signal Processor instead of a dedicated chip. This DSP is probably also required for processing the microphone (perhaps all audio) input. I can’t find anything on the web to support this theory BUT I would really like to work with this user to see if I can determine the source of the conflict at least as far as I can go to minimize the time in which the conflict occurs. Perhaps I am NOT releasing ALL of the USB resources properly UNTIL the cable is actually disconnected. Now that would argue for the “hard stop” for which you have advocated.

This is not going to be helpful but just sayin. When i disconnect the cable from the amp and *leave* the cable hooked up to the phone Remuda automatically closes and full voice dictation and recognition functionality comes back. Duh, right?
Good! You have confirmed that the resources are released when the USB connection is unplugged!

At your earliest opportunity email the Developer!

His email address is at the lower right of the expanded Google Play App page.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:06 pm
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Also know that in Remuda's Edit Dialogs, whenever any numerical parameter field value is changed, an asterisk (*) character appears adjacent to the value, and, as the more that value changes the color of the value and of the asterisk changes to Red. The latest Remuda release also has fine controls to increase (+) or decrease (-) these field values.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:51 pm
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MusicLaw wrote:
Also know that in Remuda's Edit Dialogs, whenever any numerical parameter field value is changed, an asterisk (*) character appears adjacent to the value, and, as the more that value changes the color of the value and of the asterisk changes to Red. The latest Remuda release also has fine controls to increase (+) or decrease (-) these field values.

Yes, I like that very much, what you said .

Purchased the App and am now testing the waters with backups and restore. It was ES File Explorer an App I have that is warning me that Remuda is wanting to WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE. I will email the DEV today or tomorrow.

Thanks, ML

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:53 pm
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MusicLaw wrote:
His email address is at the lower right of the expanded Google Play App page.

You mean lower left,... right? support@tritonsw.com

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:38 pm
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Email address is visible at the Lower Right of the Expanded page (when you click "Read More"). Otherwise, the Send Email link (to trigger your email client) is at the bottom of the non-expanded page.

Either way, what you posted is the correct support address.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:03 pm
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MusicLaw wrote:
Email address is visible at the Lower Right of the Expanded page (when you click "Read More"). Otherwise, the Send Email link (to trigger your email client) is at the bottom of the non-expanded page.

Either way, what you posted is the correct support address.

For a moment there I thought i was developing some form of dyslexia. I am on a PC and it is on the left. I just checked my smart phone and it is indeed on the right. LOL!

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:43 pm
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The following just sent to the developer of Remuda.


Hi, I just wanted to thank you for developing the Remuda App which I purchased yesterday. I wanted to bring up a few things that is happening on my HTC One M8 which I believe you might have heard about from the Fender Forums. My microphone is disabled when my amp is *on* and connected to my phone. After some testing I have come to find that is *not* because of Remuda and I will let this be known on the forums. It happens when either of my HTC One M8 phones are connected with or without Remuda installed.

When however I use a *Bluetooth speaker and built in microphone* (Sol Republic Deck and a LG Headset) I am able to voice input data into my phone and in Remuda for Set Lists and such when amp is on and connected to phone.

Also, I have an App called ES File Explorer warning me that Remuda is wanting a sensitive permission WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE. Could you be kind enough to explain why Remuda needs this?

Thanks again for Remuda, I am really liking it so far.

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:58 pm
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If merely connecting either smartphone to the amp without Remuda running results in the mic being disabled, it may be the way HTC is handling the USB on the M8. Interesting that it works differently when the Bluetooth Spkr is used. Not sure to what extent Remuda may be able to be enhanced to circumvent this. Now that you have reached out to the Developer, you are likely to be the first to know.

As for the Permissions request you are seeing, that is almost certainly ES File Explorer reporting that Remuda is seeking to be authorized to Write to it's own Data Store and Backup files (external to but maintained by Remuda itself) and similarly to be able to Read from those files as well as create the folders for them, as well as Read from your music media folder for Remuda's Backing Tracks Song player feature in Performance Mode.

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Post subject: Re: REMUDA
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:59 pm
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Dev's reply with his permission of course and my suggestion and no pun intended. Get it! We were talking about permissions. :)

Dash,
Thanks for contacting me. MusicLaw has been keeping me in the loop so I know that you’ve experienced some sort of contention between the USB Host mode and the device’s microphone. I see from this message that it doesn’t appear to be Remuda specific but I am still interested hearing any information you have about the problem.

Are far as that permission usage, Remuda requires it to support Preset Backup and Restore. External storage is what passes for a file system on the Device and Backup and Restore write to and read from that file system. If you browse your device you will find in the MUSIC folder, a folder called REMUDA. In that folder your will find a BACKUP folder, and if you have made any backups you will find them here.

A bit of background info…
For all versions of Android up to (BUT NOT including) version 6.0, any App installed on the device could read and write to the memory on the device without asking for the user’s permission at runtime. The user was informed and the permission was granted at install time if the App’s manifest said it required the permission. This memory was originally called External Storage because it was generally on a removable SD memory card. Later developments in hardware add the built-in memory that most devices come with today but the name for the resource (that is the resource of writable persistent memory) got stuck at External Storage regardless of whether the memory (or storage) in questions was built into the device or was in fact on a removable memory card. Regardless of the actual location, the app was free to write to whatever memory was available.

Enter Android 6.0. In this version of the OS, the App is required to request (at run-time) the permission to write to this storage. However, if the App itself was written prior to Android 6.0 OR the device was running an earlier version of Android, the OS would still go ahead and just give the app the permission. It is only when the App is updated to be aware of Android 6 and it is running on an Android 6 device, and it requests the permission that the OS actually asks the User if it is OK.

I have recently updated Remuda to be Android 6.0 aware and as part of the changes I had to add code that asks for the resource, so what File Explorer is reporting is that Remuda is asking for permission to write to memory. If you never saw any message from the OS asking for your permission then that is because you are running on some version of Android earlier than 6.0. I Believe that I have seen the HTC One M runs Kitkat (4.4.2).

Sorry for the long answer but I’d rather provide too much info when I can than too little.

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