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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:49 pm
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Orcatraz wrote:
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Have you ever even heard a JBL EON610? Its 700 clean watts are put to good use and is more than plenty. I have 2 of the EONs but have hardly ever needed them both. My job is to play music not deafen people.

The JBL EON610 is 1000 watts.


!000 watts peak, 700 watts RMS.

Power Rating 1000W Peak (700W LF + 300W HF), 500W Continuous (350W LF + 150W HF)

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:22 am
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Gone soon? I don't think so. For one fender stated a while back the mustangs are thier best selling amps ! I have also never seen on ANY forum any other modeler that has had so much attention and love except maybe kemper at $2000 plus.

I know this is an older thread and my post may not be seen, but, I am S-O-O-O glad to see your comment. I just traded a Line 6 Spider III HD75 (and some other gear) for a Mustang V. To be honest, my first reactions have been, "Why did I give up my Line 6?" However, after a couple hours of tweaking, I began to get some of the tones I was hoping for. I traded for the extra 75 watts (which I don't need) and the advanced options/versatility of the Mustang. It really makes me feel good to see so many VERY proud owners of an amp I have great hopes for, and have not yet tapped it's abilities.
Yours is not the only re-affirming post I've read, but it is certainly the most eloquent.
I probably should've just said, "Thanks, I needed that."


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:50 am
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GUS, I've had my Mustang III for a few years now and I'm very happy with it. It's a fun rig that never gets boring. The versatility has come in handy again and again. And it handles just about any size venue.

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:40 am
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I just have to get used to it. I stepped into the digital world about three years ago with a Digitech processor, which I was really happy with. I got a chance to buy the Line 6 I mentioned for almost nothing, and that got me thinking about digital amps. I'm an old guy and a traditionalist. The Mustang V offers so many options, I decided to go for it.
Right now, I'm depending on these forums to get me through the first few weeks of using it.

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:29 am
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Gus,

The mustang is all about the personalized edits to get to the subtle things that only "we" will hear.


I have a III And a IV... and even between these two, the amps individually sound different enough where I still have to do some edits, even with identical presets. the 2x12 verses 1x12, and the variance in the speakers/wattage, offer enough difference where it's not a one-to-one comparison.

If you have not tried out FUSE yet, you should, as it makes a huge difference in getting the hang of the setup and edits.


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:38 am
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I have looked at Fuse, and created an account. My amp has the Version - 1 firmware, so, I know it is recommended to update to Version-2. I've read several posts already about problems with fuse. I want to make sure my computer will handle the minimum requirements. It's a Windows 7 unit, with the lower priced processor. I'm afraid of messing my amp up.
But, thanks for the info


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:54 am
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The "problems with Fuse" discussions are blown way out of proportion, in my opinion. The program works just fine on a wide range of computer equipment.

The requirements to run Fuse are minimal:

Pentium 4 1.4 GHz Processor, 512 MB of RAM
Windows Vista SP2 / Windows 7 / Windows 8
Internet Explorer 8.0 or later
(10.0 or later on Windows 8)
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 or later
Microsoft Silverlight 4.0 or later
Minimum Video Resolution of 1024x768

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:20 am
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I obviously am seeking, not giving advice, but, I've read that people are getting "Black Screen" with Windows 10. Is that the only version.


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:31 am
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GUS MCRAE wrote:
I obviously am seeking, not giving advice, but, I've read that people are getting "Black Screen" with Windows 10. Is that the only version.

I may be missing something as this departs from the OP's subject, nonetheless, responding to the Windows 10 matter, I have four laptops running Windows 10 for a few months now, and never experienced a "Black Screen". Nor, any other problem using Windows 10.

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:46 am
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that's good. However, the IT guys at work have advised us to wait a while before installing it on work computers, as all the glitches have not been worked out, and I want to give it some more time for my home computer as well. Now that is VERY debatable, I know, but, it is a personal choice right now. BUT, I have no argument against Windows 10. I just need to know if FUSE will work on my current version (7)?
As always, I am new to this forum AND this amp, so many thanks for all your help.


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:59 pm
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Gus: FUSE should work fine under Win 7. FUSE even works on an older Win XP machine I've tried.

If you have an Android device try the REMUDA App. It does full amp editing and control, and things FUSE lacks. You'll need a USB OTG adapter cable.

Only FUSE can accomplish the amp's firmware update. You'll need to first download the current 2014 firmware version 2.2 from Fender's site so you can have FUSE use that verison. FUSE has nlt been updated for years and does not know to retrieve the newer Firmware from Fender's site.

As for your MV, what cab or speakers are you using with it?

As this and other threads ( viewtopic.php?f=27&t=100972 ) have mentioned, the Celestion speakers differ in the MIII, MIV and MV cabinets and each -- using identically configured presets -- deliveres it's own sound.

I have the v2 versions of the MIII and MIV, and have always been tempted to get an MV (v2) for a more compact stand or desktop amp to use with a pair of high end Full Range Flat Response (FRFR) monitors for a wider sound field than a 4x12 cabinet offers, and which can also serve for production/backing track playback.

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:48 pm
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As for your MV, what cab or speakers are you using with it?


This hits on the other question I have asked on these forums today. I have a Line 6 4X12 cabinet. I got a Spider amp for too cheap to pass up, I liked it, played it for a month, and found a guy who likes to trade and swapped him out of the MV. So, a huge thing the current cab has going for it is, it is in my house and costs me $0.00 to use. It has "Custom Celestions". The cabinet is rated at 8 ohms, matches the amp.
So, other than matching emblems, will I get any noticeable difference if I go with the Fender cabinet?
Asked another way: Are Celestion Rocket 50's WAY better for this amp than Customs?


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:22 pm
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I couldn't answer that without hearing them both. The specs for the spkrs can be found on Celestion's website in the 12" Guitar Speakers category. Even with that, the cabinet's dimensions, materials, internal baffling, if any, each contribute to the resulting sound.

As you already have the Line6 4x12 cabinet, until or unless, you go with something else you're good to go!

The Celestion's guitar spkrs are not FRFR. They dramatically roll off before 5khz, which is very common for guitar amp speakers. As a result, any playback Audio source connected to the Mustang's AuxIn jack reflects this frequency limitation when heard through the Mustang's speakers. However, the Mustang's AuxIn jack, does pass FRFR Stereo Audio to the Mustangs headphone jack! I have never tried tapping into the speaker outs of my Mustang III/IV in an attempt to use use FRFR speakrs to determine if the Mustang's speaker amp stage electronics are FRFR. The MV makes this possibility easily to determine as it has spkr output jacks!

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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:21 pm
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I think I am in ¨so far, so good¨ mode right now. I´m gonna play with and through the current configuration until convinced otherwise.

Thanks for all the help


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Post subject: Re: I may be jumping ship as well...
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:42 am
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I see speakers are being discussed, tho i didn't read but a couple replies. I thought i;d chime in tho with a bit of info on the 100 watt celestion in the MIII. I can't speak for the other celestions but i assume the same goes for them. I emailed celestion and asked them whether the G12T-100 is the same exact speaker as the one they sell retail with the same model #. The person didn't know so h asked for the code on the speaker. NOT the model #, but a number that can tell him if it's a OEM speaker that has been spec'd by fender to be different in any way. The answer was yes, it is slightly different than the retail G12T-100 and made to some spec fender requested. He couldn't tell me in what way it would sound different and didn't seem to know anything other than it was different, tho he assumed the difference would not be huge.

I have a retail G12T-100 thats been stashed away for years out of laziness to sell it. I keep meaning to try it in the stang but it sounds so good as is i just never got around to it. Maybe one day, but i imagine if it;s noticably different it will not be a good diifference because i tried 2 other spoeakers in it, one being mny all time fav i have used and preferred in ever amp i owned in the last 25 years yet in the stang it was a downgrade. So it's obvious to me that in designing the models around that speaker it would be hard to find another that would be as good. I tend not to listen to those who have found another they say is better because i tried the eminence that mustang mondays guy on youtube swore up and down was better and it was not good in the stang to say the least. I would almost bet that he has since realized that and put the stock back in, or if he hasn't that if he were to put it back to stock he'd realize his initial impression wasn't what he first thought. It;s easy to make that mistake which is why it;s always good to go back to stock whenever swapping out parts on a amp or guitar because initial impressions can fool you and often going back to stock is when you really hear the truth.


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