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Does Silverlight's privacy policy concern you?
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Post subject: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:41 pm
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This is a question I've searched this forum and the web for but haven't found any answers.

One part of the Silverlight terms and agreements concerned me enough not to install FUSE on my macbook:

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Microsoft may access or disclose information about you, including the content of your communications, in order to: (a) comply with the law or respond to lawful requests or legal process; (b) protect the rights or property of Microsoft or our customers, including the enforcement of our agreements or policies governing your use of the services; or (c) act on a good faith belief that such access or disclosure is necessary to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, customers or the public.
Information that is collected by or sent to Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country/region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. Microsoft abides by the safe harbor framework as set forth by the U.S. Department of Commerce regarding the collection, use, and retention of data from the European Union, the European Economic Area, and Switzerland.


So there it is. I refuse to install Silverlight on my computer, this seems to be an unnecessary add-on that's borderline spyware. This makes the Fuse features of my new Super Champ X2 completely useless to me.

I consider this a serious issue. I should be able to use your fuse software without Microsoft spying on me, monitoring communications, storing them on a server for the government to be able to pry into. I should be able to change settings on my amp without all of this. I probably sound paranoid, because I probably am. I don't trust Microsoft at all, did any of you actually look into how difficult it is to stop the automatic updates for this program? Actually, I tried to find an answer on their website, and was thrown through a loop of links that took me back to the terms and conditions without ever showing me instructions for actually stopping it.

I hope you guys can provide a solution for me but I doubt it. Until FUSE can run without Microsoft spyware I will not be using it.


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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:41 pm
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bongo fury wrote:
I don't trust Microsoft at all

Have you had a chance to peruse Apple's Privacy Policy? Might just want to close the cover on that Macbook altogether ....

Apple's Privacy Policy wrote:
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All the information you provide may be transferred or accessed by entities around the world as described in this Privacy Policy. Apple abides by the “safe harbor” frameworks set forth by the U.S. Department of Commerce regarding the collection, use, and retention of personal information collected by organizations in the European Economic Area and Switzerland. Learn more about the U.S. Department of Commerce Safe Harbor Program.

Please note that personal information, including the information provided when using iCloud, regarding individuals who reside in a member state of the European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland is controlled by Apple Distribution International in Cork, Ireland, and processed on its behalf by Apple Inc. Personal information collected in the EEA and Switzerland when using iTunes is controlled by iTunes SARL in Luxembourg and processed on its behalf by Apple Inc.

Disclosure to Third Parties
At times Apple may make certain personal information available to strategic partners that work with Apple to provide products and services, or that help Apple market to customers. For example, when you purchase and activate your iPhone, you authorize Apple and your carrier to exchange the information you provide during the activation process to carry out service. If you are approved for service, your account will be governed by Apple and your carrier’s respective privacy policies. Personal information will only be shared by Apple to provide or improve our products, services and advertising; it will not be shared with third parties for their marketing purposes.

Service Providers
Apple shares personal information with companies who provide services such as information processing, extending credit, fulfilling customer orders, delivering products to you, managing and enhancing customer data, providing customer service, assessing your interest in our products and services, and conducting customer research or satisfaction surveys. These companies are obligated to protect your information and may be located wherever Apple operates.

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It may be necessary − by law, legal process, litigation, and/or requests from public and governmental authorities within or outside your country of residence − for Apple to disclose your personal information. We may also disclose information about you if we determine that for purposes of national security, law enforcement, or other issues of public importance, disclosure is necessary or appropriate.

We may also disclose information about you if we determine that disclosure is reasonably necessary to enforce our terms and conditions or protect our operations or users.
Additionally, in the event of a reorganization, merger, or sale we may transfer any and all personal information we collect to the relevant third party.

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:16 am
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saying company x/y (google, apple, whoever) does the same doesn´t make it any better.
american companies in general haven´t got the same privacy standards like we are used to in europe, thats a fact.
I´d suggest blocking outgoing traffic from silverlight etc. with a firewall.

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:41 am
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SenorUke wrote:
american companies in general haven´t got the same privacy standards like we are used to in europe, thats a fact.

So why not just use an operating system and software created by one of the many fine European computer companies? Image

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:03 am
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strings10927 wrote:
SenorUke wrote:
american companies in general haven´t got the same privacy standards like we are used to in europe, thats a fact.

So why not just use an operating system and software created by one of the many fine European computer companies?

like Linux?
guess what? I do. :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:02 pm
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...and I wish "bongo fury" all the luck in the world in attempting to use the operating system invented by United States citizen Linus Torvalds.

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:11 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
invented by United States citizen Linus Torvalds.

he is a finnish citizen also, was born, educated, lived, worked and invented Linux in Finnland.
Believe it or not, there are distros out there which are maintained and developed in Europe.
Anyway, for me this discussion is over cause it´s as pointless as posting trollfaces. :shock:
Just show some respect for people that disagree with such EULAS, for different opinions, and yes, for different security and privacy standards. Maybe it´s too much to ask if you are more into trolling people... Image

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:13 pm
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Do you use search engines, You Tube, Facebook, Twitter? You've already coughed up most of the privacy you're concerned about. At least Microsoft gave you an option.


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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:56 am
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I have Fuse installed on a computer not connected to the internet. Unless MicroSoft comes and takes my hard drive, my privacy remains intact.


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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:54 am
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strings10927 wrote:
SenorUke wrote:
american companies in general haven´t got the same privacy standards like we are used to in europe, thats a fact.

So why not just use an operating system and software created by one of the many fine European computer companies? Image

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:29 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
SenorUke wrote:
american companies in general haven´t got the same privacy standards like we are used to in europe, thats a fact.

So why not just use an operating system and software created by one of the many fine European computer companies


Like Microsoft and Apple, both of which funnel their income through their "headquarters" in Ireland?

Or did you mean an OS like Scientific Linux, brought to you in part by CERN - the same CERN that brought us WWW, and with a kernel initially written in Finland by Linus Torvalds (a Finland-Swede), and to large parts maintained by Alan Cox (British)? Works fine for me!
(Well, FUSE doesn't, but then again it doesn't work under Windows for me either. At least there is an open source alternative to FUSE for Linux.)


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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:15 am
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arth1 wrote:
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+1rep arth1,
at least someone here understands what I´m talking about.

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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:16 am
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arth1 wrote:
(Well, FUSE doesn't, but then again it doesn't work under Windows for me either. At least there is an open source alternative to FUSE for Linux.)


Fuse works very well for me under Windows and has for more than 3 years...what am I doing wrong?

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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:37 am
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AlexeiY wrote:
arth1 wrote:
(Well, FUSE doesn't, but then again it doesn't work under Windows for me either. At least there is an open source alternative to FUSE for Linux.)


Fuse works very well for me under Windows and has for more than 3 years...what am I doing wrong?


You don't have a modern high-DPI display, is my guess. FUSE doesn't work when the DPI setting goes beyond 150, no matter how big your screen is; it's simply incompatible with high DPI displays.

Also, you probably don't have a Windows 7 machine with USB 3.0 only ports and try to use Fender Universal ASIO.


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Post subject: Re: Question: Microsoft Silverlight and Fuse, and my privacy
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:14 am
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arth1 wrote:
AlexeiY wrote:
arth1 wrote:
(Well, FUSE doesn't, but then again it doesn't work under Windows for me either. At least there is an open source alternative to FUSE for Linux.)


Fuse works very well for me under Windows and has for more than 3 years...what am I doing wrong?


You don't have a modern high-DPI display, is my guess. FUSE doesn't work when the DPI setting goes beyond 150, no matter how big your screen is; it's simply incompatible with high DPI displays.

Also, you probably don't have a Windows 7 machine with USB 3.0 only ports and try to use Fender Universal ASIO.


So you're saying that what I'm using is wrong?

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