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Post subject: Re: Alan's statement about Fuse
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:38 pm
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LarryLenz wrote:
I do feel somewhat better that you confirmed that Fender will be coming out with a newer version of Fuse,

I don't see this anywhere. It's certainly not what the "statement" says - it only says that Fender is continuing development. That doesn't imply releasing a newer version. It doesn't imply anything. There might be a bugfix coming, and they might give up and put the resources into something else. Don't read anything more into what they say than exactly what they say.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:09 pm
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It would be great if you could do a bulk dump of your amp to the preset library. You can do a backup through the Utilities menu but that saves it as one file. Being able to dump all the amp presets in one click would be very useful.

Maybe it's a version difference, but the first thing I did when I got my Mustang I v.2 and installed FUSE™ was to make a backup of the factory presets, and then locked the files.
They all showed up as separate files in Documents/Fender/FUSE/Backups/2014_12_29_20_58_18/Presets with file names like 00_Brutal Metal II.fuse , 01_Super-Live Album.fuse , 02_Liquid Solo.fuse , etc. The descriptive name of the backup was in the file M2_BackupName.fuse .
This is with Fender Fuse version 2.7.1.48.

Oh, and yaddah-yaddah drag and drop yaddah yaddah.
Specifically, have a column of Amp presets on the left, and a column of "Computer" presets on the right. Drag the Amp presets up and down to shuffle their order.

And... When you want to "Save Preset as..." auto-fill it with the existing name, so you don't have to type out the full name just to add "v04" to it or whatever. If you leave the name with no changes, then have it throw in a speed bump that asks you if you mean for it to overwrite the old file. Just the way it does in a conventional file save dialog box.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:43 am
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John L Rose wrote:
captainc wrote:
It would be great if you could do a bulk dump of your amp to the preset library. You can do a backup through the Utilities menu but that saves it as one file. Being able to dump all the amp presets in one click would be very useful.

Maybe it's a version difference, but the first thing I did when I got my Mustang I v.2 and installed FUSE™ was to make a backup of the factory presets, and then locked the files.
They all showed up as separate files in Documents/Fender/FUSE/Backups/2014_12_29_20_58_18/Presets with file names like 00_Brutal Metal II.fuse , 01_Super-Live Album.fuse , 02_Liquid Solo.fuse , etc. The descriptive name of the backup was in the file M2_BackupName.fuse .
This is with Fender Fuse version 2.7.1.48.

I discovered this when exploring the Fuse folder once. It is very handy. I ended up doing the same thing. Backed up the Factory presets and now I have them on hand if I need and can restore individual presets or the whole kit and caboodle.

I also found that editing a backup is way easier through Text edit (on Mac). I can sit here at work, assemble a collection of presets, rename them (and the backup file name too) and copy paste FX from one preset to another and create a virtual amp then just restore it. Can even set up the FX knobs. Granted, I’m on a mustang II. I’m sure it’s way too daunting on the IIIs and above.

For Fender TSL

I think an expansion on the Alt Key function for Mustang I/II users would be huge. More of an amp/firmware than a Fuse thing but….

Hold down Exit- Gain knob becomes second Gain knob on Super Sonic
Hold Down Exit-Press Tap button-Turns off/on Stomp
Hold Down Exit-Preset wheel becomes OD Stomp Selection with Gain/Volume/Tone knobs controlling the parameters. (this one might be a tall order but I can dream)

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:28 pm
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arth1,

This is the quote from Alan:
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With that said, we would like to reassure users of Fender FUSE that Fender is indeed continuing development on the Fender FUSE software

This is a quote from my original post:

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1. Is Fender Fuse Dead?
Alan: No, Fender is continuing development on Fuse.

You might be correct that they are only working on bug fixes. You might even be correct in saying Fender is going to give up on the Fuse software. I read it a little differently than you did arth1. I do agree with you that we didn't get much from Alan. What we really wanted was a list of updates that were going to be added to the Fuse software and when we could expect it to be released to us users.

My whole point was to acknowledge the fact that Alan gave us his assurance that Fender was not forgetting the Mustang and Fuse customers.

It could be just a placebo or the real thing. Only time will tell. No one can blame you arth1 for your distrust. Alan just posted what he told me on the phone. So you are correct in saying that nothing new was given to us. (other than Alan's list of improvements we are requesting)

Like I said in my post after talking with Alan on the phone, if there isn't any announcement of a new release or an actual release in 6 months form the time I talked to Alan on the phone,((Which was Nov 18, 2014)) I'm going to drive to Scottsdale, Arizona and talk with Fender in person, and any of you are welcome to meet me there so we all can go in together and confront them.

Alan has his hands tied. This is the first time that Alan was allowed to publicly say "Fender is continuing development of the Fender FUSE software". That is something, not much, but something. But unfortunately it's not enough for me or most of us Mustang/FUSE owners.

So what do we do now? It took Alan from Nov 18, 2014 until Dec 24th, 2014 to post the same thing he told me on Nov 18, 2014. So, did it take Alan that long to convince Fender management to allow him to post this? I don't know. All I know is that Fender has had almost 2 months from the time I called and talked with Alan to actually give us something.

Here is what we got:
1. Fender is continuing development on Fender FUSE software. (Which we knew since Nov 18, 2014)
2. A list of the requested changes and additions by us, the owners/users. (New)

I'm planning my trip to the Fender facility now. I have the feeling that Fender won't do anything by May 18, 2015. Which is sad. Sad for us, and even sadder for Fender.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:52 pm
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my guess is:

- they do not have a silverlight developer inhouse.
- it´s hard to even find one, cause most silverlight devs have turned their back on this abondoned technology long time ago (if they are smart, what i assume)

fenders software support is worse than support from any chinese no-name crap company, and so is their software.
they don´t even have the balls to release the source code to get it done for free.

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:41 pm
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SenorUke wrote:
my guess is:

- they do not have a silverlight developer inhouse.
- it´s hard to even find one, cause most silverlight devs have turned their back on this abondoned technology long time ago (if they are smart, what i assume)

fenders software support is worse than support from any chinese no-name crap company, and so is their software.
they don´t even have the balls to release the source code to get it done for free.


I sure hope you are Wrong, but I have a bad feeling you are RIGHT !!!!


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:41 pm
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LarryLenz wrote:
SenorUke wrote:
my guess is:

- they do not have a silverlight developer inhouse.
- it´s hard to even find one, cause most silverlight devs have turned their back on this abondoned technology long time ago (if they are smart, what i assume)

fenders software support is worse than support from any chinese no-name crap company, and so is their software.
they don´t even have the balls to release the source code to get it done for free.


I sure hope you are Wrong, but I have a bad feeling you are RIGHT !!!!


He is wrong. Do a little googling, and you find the resume of a person currently employed by Fender (but possibly looking for a new job, given how easy the resume was to find) who outright brags about being the person behind converting FUSE to Silverlight.

Now that's something I would not put on my resume, but she might know the job market better than me... There might be money in maintaining outdated and failed software that companies have invested too much in to let go of? The new version of COBOL programmers fetching top dollars?


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:53 am
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arth1 wrote:
Do a little googling, and you find the resume of a person currently employed by Fender (but possibly looking for a new job, given how easy the resume was to find) who outright brags about being the person behind converting FUSE to Silverlight.

this dubious guy then must have been very busy patching fuse for the last 4 years, right.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:22 pm
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SenorUke wrote:
arth1 wrote:
Do a little googling, and you find the resume of a person currently employed by Fender (but possibly looking for a new job, given how easy the resume was to find) who outright brags about being the person behind converting FUSE to Silverlight.

this dubious guy then must have been very busy patching fuse for the last 4 years, right.


This guy is still trying to figure out how to fix some of the remaining bugs. Or, tried to add some new features and screwed it up and now is trying to get another job somewhere else. The sad part is Fender management doesn't care.


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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:41 pm
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LarryLenz wrote:
SenorUke wrote:
arth1 wrote:
Do a little googling, and you find the resume of a person currently employed by Fender (but possibly looking for a new job, given how easy the resume was to find) who outright brags about being the person behind converting FUSE to Silverlight.

this dubious guy then must have been very busy patching fuse for the last 4 years, right.


This guy is still trying to figure out how to fix some of the remaining bugs. Or, tried to add some new features and screwed it up and now is trying to get another job somewhere else. The sad part is Fender management doesn't care.


"...The sad part is Fender management doesn't care."
Yeah, that's the part that saddens, frustrates and angers me. If they would just give us SOMETHING that we can use...some update, some fix...whatever—I could have hope. As it is, I'm about to give up.

This sucks.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:11 pm
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It was nice to learn that you can park the cursor over a stompbox or rack unit control knob and use the scroll wheel to turn the knob. This works for me (not that I have an actual "wheel" on my Apple Magic Mouse) as far as adjusting the setting goes, and seems far more precise than dragging up or down.

Sadly, the numbers in the display for the control value (in that awful '60s green typeface) do not update until you move the cursor. If you want to adjust it to some specific number, you have to go with trial and error. It got so I thought it was frozen up for a while.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:04 am
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LarryLenz wrote:
SenorUke wrote:
arth1 wrote:
Do a little googling, and you find the resume of a person currently employed by Fender (but possibly looking for a new job, given how easy the resume was to find) who outright brags about being the person behind converting FUSE to Silverlight.

this dubious guy then must have been very busy patching fuse for the last 4 years, right.


This guy


Gal. Not that it matters.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:54 am
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From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight


"In 2013, Microsoft announced that they had ceased development on Silverlight except for patches and bugfixes. Microsoft announced the end of life of Silverlight 5 in 2021. As of 2015, Chrome no longer supports Silverlight on OS X, and will completely remove support for the current version by April 2015 on all operating systems.[8]"

Given that silverlight looks like a dead duck or is at least an about to be a dead duck, please dump silverlight asap.

This is the one thing that stops me using Fuse on mac. My last attempt to use silverlight on mac left me with a crashing unstable system. It also partially crippled my mustang III when attempting a firmware update thru fuse. The mustang is still usable but it has two annoying ongoing issues which usually means it just sits in a corner doing nothing. Also, numerous attempts to redo the firmware fail. I have never been convinced enough by anything I have read since that would induce me to try silverlight again.

I would buy another mustang III with fuse in a heartbeat for recording without silverlight.

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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:21 am
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I do not have a Mac computer, I have an intel PC. I have had no issued with Silverlight using Windows 7. Since the majority of people use Windows computers, and only a few use Macs, (I know the music industry still uses Macs), that I have always found that if you stick to what is industry standard, meaning, which platform is used by the majority of people, you can't go wrong. Creating a software package to work with both Mac and PC has always been difficult. I can't say I have had a problem with Silverlight, and I don't think you can say that. You just ran into a conflict using Silverlight on your Mac.

Have you tried formatting your hard drive and reloading the operating system and then Silverlight, and then Fuse to see if that would work? Just a thought.


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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:14 am
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Fender asked for feedback and this is simply my feedback. YMMV.

Plenty of people use mac particularly in the audio and film worlds. What constitutes "Industry standard" depends on context I think. I have set up my home studio based on mac and while I have had problems at times, I don't think I have any more than I see from others right across both windows and mac platforms.

I have indeed formatted and reinstalled - many times. Not just for this silverlight issue. Every time I upgrade my os (just recently upgraded to yosemite) I always go for a clean install. And I have at times run into issues that I can not track down and so I clean reinstall then also. Its time consuming and a pita but its the best way to start anew with a clean system. I take my time and when/if I run into a problem software (usually a plugin) it gets scrapped until there is a fix. Sometimes I will dump a plugin if it just causes my too much grief (IKM - just too many issues with my DAW Studio One, and I chose to keep S1 and dump IKM).

Yes I did indeed run into a conflict with silverlight. I went to a bit of trouble with fuse when I first got it, but it became too troublesome. I see from posts here that many mac users question the use of silverlight. I really don't understand the need for it. I use plenty of audio related software, none of which require silverlight so why Fuse? Eg. Pro Tools, Studio One, Guitar Rig 5, Scuffham S-Gear, Waves, Plugin Alliance, Focusrite Midnight suite, BFD2/3, Addictive Drums, EZ Drummer, etc. None use silverlight as far as I know. All are cross platform.

Still, its Fender call and if they want to stick with silverlight they will. Just means I'm one person who won't be using fuse with silverlight since I am very wary of its impact on my system. My $0.02.

Thanks for taking the time to reply though.


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