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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:35 am
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Markamc wrote:
Not sure if this is relevant here, nevertheless......I have a mustang IIIv2 and was looking for a better solution for a footpedal. At the moment I am working on a footswitch to provide more functionality (simple with GUI), similar to Fuse and Plug (linux) via USB.

So far, with a 1(func)+10 button switch:
1-preset (up/down)
2-preset select (00-99)
3 stomp on/off

looking at sliders for controlling levels..anything in fuse is possible! i can't wait to share when done...hopefully more soon, time permitting...

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mark
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:57 am
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^this :D

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:03 pm
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Will this be compatible with version 1 and any mustang on the range?

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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:17 am
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I'm positive it will work will the devices that work with plug/fuse. The editable python 'code' will be available to check comparability with different models, I only have access to IIIv2 and Iv2 to check.

The basic button functions will be:
1. Simple preset select based on number entry,
2. 10 definable preset numbers
3. basic prog up/prog down
4. Simple gui giving program info (great for those with no screen on amp)

Future developments are endless, and hopefully with inpout from everyone it could be a great solution. I am developing on a raspberry pi, which provides additional functionally too.

I will set-up a blog with more info well available soon and avoid hogging this thread.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:52 am
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i had a similar idea time ago, but my friend that has experience in developing for raspberry did not give me enough hints on the usb side to become indipendent in the development.

If you make code available i think i may be able to develope some exotic feature! ;)

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:12 pm
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Great,

I will keep you posted and release the code on Bitbucket soon. I have a few thinks to sort out, one of my main objectives was to keep the total costs less than the price of the 4+2 button solution with more functionality.....(until fender releases a cut-down Floor USB controller)

If you want to investigate yourself, look at the plug dev site, he give lots of info including how he finds the usb codes. (wireshark / usb sniffing)

My route atm is using python3/Qt5 (qml) non-X on PI or similar low cost device. With python, you can use Pyusb as an easy alternative to libUSB C++ for USB comms to the mustang.

Again, didn't want to hijack thread, will BLOG all of this when I have completed more code.

cheers

mark


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:00 am
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The temporary pass word that you issue for Fender Fuse login is way to long and to many upper lower case . I gave up trying to log into fuse


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:53 am
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Hi Vm488m2,

We are sorry to hear that you have run into some frustration with regard to your Fender® FUSE™ Community account password reset. If you would like to give us a call, we would be happy to assist you with a manual password reset. That way, you can avoid the long alpha-numeric string password.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...Solo Button Needed
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:08 am
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Hi there

I have played professionally for nearly 40 years and have used the Digitech 2101 Artist for the last 20 with fantastic results but sadly they are running close to their life's end expectancy & no on seems to have the whereabouts to repair them. I own 3 of them & use two as spare parts for the one that I currently use. Come to think of it I'm also getting close to my life's end expectancy! Yikes, did I say that?

I have tried a few replacements that have been a disaster & disappointing considering the hype that goes along from manufacturers. I have purchased & owned a Kemper (this one really sucked), Line6 HD500, Line6 Pod1, Line6 Pod11, Line6 Pro-Rack, Eleven Rack, Roland GT-Pro, Zoom 9.2tt, Digitech 2120 & a VOX Tonelab & I have not been able to replace my Digitech 2101 Artist to my satisfaction. This piece of gear is hard to program but when it is dialed in it is incredible even in todays marketplace. Beautiful EQ, fantastic overdrive & useable effects like no other.

I wanted to purchase a Fractal but decided it's far too expensive and I don't know how it will compare when I actually put it to use on stage. It's just too much money to gamble away in case it does not work.

Now, what I have heard of the Fender Floorboard on Youtube is a resemblance to my Digitech 2101 Artist. I especially try to compare the clean sounds as I have found the distorted sounds are easier to achieve with acceptable & convincing results.

My only concern is that the Mustang Floorboard has 5 patches. I wonder why they actually have 0-5, 1-6, 2-7, 3-8, & 4-9 printed on the front of the pedal when all that can be accessed is 5 patches per bank. Am I reading this correctly, or is there a way or accessing 10 patches?

If there are only 5 patches (& I don't see any other switches) that can be programmed to employ a Solo for each of these patches I would like to suggest a way of creating a Solo system with the 5 current patch system.

Here goes! I hope your code writers can follow my line of reasoning.
#1 - Let's use patch button 1-6 as an example. First press would access Patch #01
#2 - Along comes a solo & now we press the 1-6 the second time & this time we would access patch #06.

By pressing this 1-6 switch repeatedly we would toggle between the Patch 1 & 6. Regardless of which one would be set as the solo or rhythm the user would figure this out on their own as it would at least provide them a workaround.

Each bank would harbor the same arrangement so if I was using Bank #3 it would bounce between patches 30-35, 31-36, 32-37, 33-38, & 34-39, etc., etc..

Within the Fuse Software you should be able to specify which patch will be accessed first when the patch is first accessed so the user can expect predictable results & the correct starting point be it a solo or a rhythm patch.

If Fender creates an updated version of the Floorboard a Solo button would be an excellent addition. It could then be programmed to either select between patch A or B within each specified patch as does the Roland GT-Pro or simply provide a pre-programmed amount of boost within the same patch. Either way it would be a real nice useable feature.

Secondly I think that Fender should consider a Rackmount unit with a CAT5 cable to link to the floorboard. Having a large florescent 25 character tube providing the patch number, name, & tuner that is highly readable would really be nice. This is the same display used on the Digitech Control One foot controller which is highly visible on a dark stage. It is truly the Cadillac foot controller that is easy to use & is well built to take the pounding. Making the Fender into a rack mount unit makes so much more sense since most of us are using a wireless systems these days. This would put all the audio, USB & MIDI cables neatly out of the way & closer to where they are actually needed for routing. Having all this stuff laying on the floor just makes matters worse for damaged equipment. Programming the floorboard while it is on the floor is a real pain and this is not something that you simply do at home & consider it done. I have never had the pleasure of getting the patch to sound as it should until I have used it on stage & made all the required adjustments. Try getting down on your knees & dialing in the settings while you are playing!

Thirdly if Fender makes a new floorboard consider 10 patches with a negative LED indicator system for easier viewing on a dark stage. As an example Digitech have this on their Control One pedal and it is FANTASTIC. All the LEDs are lit except for the patch you are currently on which makes it very clear where you should place your foot to access the next patch. They call this optional selection NEGATIVE. Most systems today illuminate the LED on the currently selected patch while all the other LEDs are off. Digitech calls this setting POSITIVE & they do make it available. I think you can see the value of this approach because most stages are very dark & it's easy to find yourself groping around to find the switch you need & never being sure you have the correct one.

I make reference to 2 pieces of guitar gear because they have a few features that are really needed when it comes to the real world of guitar gear. #1 is the Difitech 2101 Control One floorboard & #2 is the Roland GT-Pro. I'm not referring to the sound quality because I feel Fender have done a very respectable job in this department. I will sum up by saying a couple of features that are a must & should be considered to put the Fender Floorboard over the top.

#1 - Roland's GT-Pro, employs an A & B patch system that the user programs allowing users to access a SOLO system that provides instant access. This is a must have feature.

#2 - Digitech's Control One (Floorboard) has the best controller & feature set by far of any manufacturer to date. This one was designed & refined by real guitar players & that can be taken to the bank since so many contributed to what I feel is the way this problem should be approached. The foot controller is superb. The foot controller & rack should be split for reasons I have already pre-mentioned in this suggestion above.

I hope I haven't bored you with my wish list as I have a lot of positive hope for this product. I own 6 American Fender Guitars (one is a 1967 Telecaster) along with 2 Fender amplifiers & I have a long standing love relationship with Fender over the course of my life as I have enjoyed playing every minute on these fantastic instruments.

Thanks for reading my suggestions! I do hope I am posting this in the correct area? This is in response to Fender requesting ideas for their Fender Floorboard system

Cheers!
Tele' O'Neil


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:25 am
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Great post Tele,
I also have the digitech 2101/control one since 1990-'s too, would happily buy similar from Fender if/when available. This is what inspired my 'self-build' (i'm a mechanical engineer). Not trying to reinvent fuse, just wanted better foot control for an affordable price, so will hopefully provide 'how-to' blog as soon as.

cheers
mark
(sorry the reply is not from Fender, having read the thread, there is a little frustration with the corporate auto-response!)


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:18 am
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hello Markamc, how is it going?

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An Unofficial guide to Fender Mustang Effects here:
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USB Footswitch Opensource Project:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:52 pm
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:::Attention Fender FUSE Users:::

As a part of our continuing efforts to improve the Fender FUSE editing/librarian software, Fender would like to invite Forum Members to participate in this Forum discussion by offering your thoughts, ideas and feature requests for Fender FUSE. All ideas will be considered and reviewed. Please keep in mind that it will not be possible to implement all ideas submitted here into Fender FUSE. Nonetheless, we very much appreciate and value all ideas presented. We look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for your time.

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In response to the Fender Fuse Forum improvement suggestions I want to make sure that the folks at Fender know I think they are on to a good thing here with the Mustang lineup & for the most part I am enjoying it thoroughly. There are a few things I would consider adding or changing that in my opinion would put it over the top.

I purchased this pedal to use for our new band rehearsals. We have a new Motown band and we use the digital medium for rehearsing. Everything is routed to a Digital Presonus 24.4.2 mixer which includes Digital drums, keyboards, bass direct, guitar via the Fender Floorboard, & the rest of the bands vocals, & brass section via live mic's. We all use headsets which is fantastic! Not too loud and everyone has their own headphone volume & EQ that they adjust to their comfort level.

I have owned a lot of guitar processors over the course of my career & have only found one that could provide the results I was looking for. However, I mentioned in another post that this unit is very old and I reserve it for playing live gigs. It is racked in the live setup rack and since these racks are large I cannot move them downstairs where we rehearse. Hence the purchase of the Fender Mustang Floorboard.

After using this Fender processor for a couple of weeks I would like to forward my assessment. I strongly recommend the following items be considered to make the sounds more versatile & usable as a professional processor. I would rate the unit as 7 out of 10 for sound quality & 9 out of 10 for usability & layout.

The overall sound quality being fed to the PA settings is very non musical in the 1 to 3K by at least +10db. My G, B, & E strings have a lot more output on my Strat & Tele guitars when plugged into the Fender Mustang Floorboard then do the low strings. The pickups are set pretty flat on both guitars so there isn't a side that is closer to the strings.

*Bear in mind that I test this through the following systems as well and not just through the PA.

Guitar amps, Fender Princeton (Recording), Mesa Boogie Lonestar Special & a VOX AC30.

PA systems are BOSE L1 with B2 Subs & a X32 Behringer mixer & the second one is the practice setup downstairs going through a headset system through a Presonus 24.4.2 mixer.

All these systems seem to bring out that 1 to 3K frequency range stronger than the lower strings.

Here's some mods that I feel should be added to bring this to the next level.

    #1 - Pre & Post EQ's need to be added
    Choice of 7 band Graphic EQ & a Parametric with a Mid shift. Both these EQ's need to be available in both the Pre & Post position at all times.
    * You might need a Parametric before the amp and a Graphic inserted in the post to regain what is lost after compression so having these both available is very helpful.

    #2 - The Compressor needs to be much better & is in dire need of a sustain knob.
    The Blue Boss pedals CS-3 is an excellent example of a usable compressor susstainer. The compressor is barely noticable when used.

    #3 - The system currently won't allow a compressor & overdrive to be used at the same time which is very limiting. The overdrive also lacks the drive needed to create a usable sustain.

    #4 - I think you need 6 slots before the pre-amp and 6 slots after the pre-amp.

    #5 - The algorhythms need a serious overhaul because they lack the signal response.

    #6 - The Delay is not distinct. For being a digital process the highs are subdued too much.

    #7 - I Have a Princeton, Mesa Boogie Lonestar, & a VOX AC30 & the VOX & Princeton are nowhere near the sample that the FUSE software represents. The clean sound of my amps are crystal clear while the sample you have in the software will not clean up no matter what I do to the signal. The same goes for the the Marshall amps & the Fender Super Sonic. I have owned a Fender Super Sonic and that amp would never get a dirty sound unless I fed it with a pre-amp or pedal that would add the distortion before the amp, otherwise, it was a real mid range monster. All these amps have a clean sound that is clean as a whistle and that clean chime is not available in the amps presented in the software.

I think there has to be an updated V2 or V3 released to make this a usable product. I don't know what was done to the samples I heard on Youtube but It's really hard to get the sounds you folks have achieved. I don't know if all the sounds are going through a guitar amp or being fed to a PA system?

I do hear some very good things from the Twin but it too has this real high end buzz that makes it sound like a slightly distorted high E string on an acoustic guitar.

My apologies if I have offended you folks because I know how much effort & time goes into a project like this and having someone come along and chew it up is frustrating to say the least. Be assured I do think you are on the right track & given enough time you folks will get it humming along pretty good.

Thanks & Cheers to all
Tele' O'Neil


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:29 pm
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Hi TeleOneil,

Our apologies for the delay in posting a reply to your very thoughtful and detailed posts here. So, firstly, we very much appreciate your feedback. You raise a number of good ideas and good points. In regard to your comments about the Preset access/arrangement, I think that the A/B idea is compelling and is something we can pass this along to the folks who make these decisions. In the meantime, I would suggest that you may want to use Fender® FUSE™ to arrange/re-order your Presets on your Fender Mustang™ Floor so as to have the ability to recall the tones you like in the order that you want.

Perhaps you have already utilized this method. If not, you can got to the Media Library in Fender FUSE to begin. There, select the 'Amp' tab in the center row of tabs. Right click (Control click for Mac) and select 'Get Preset from Amp' to bring the Preset(s) that you would like to re-order into Fender FUSE. Once you have brought the Presets from your Mustang Floor into Fender FUSE (i.e. your local hard drive), move to the 'Computer' tab to view these Presets.

At this point, you can right click/control click and select 'Save Preset to Amp' to save the Preset(s) of your choice to the location of your choice on your Mustang Floor. One additional note regarding your comments about the timbre of the output on the Mustang Floor, I wanted to make sure that you have tired the various available 'Voicing' options. If not, you may want to check these out. This menu item is in the Utilities (UTIL) menu and is called 'Output Voicing'.

In regard to the additional detailed information you have provided here, I will be happy forward this information to related folks here at HQ for review and consideration. Once again, we very much appreciate you taking the time to offer this level of detail on our Forum, and we appreciate the level of experience that your information is based on. Please let us know if there is anything we can assist with from our end.


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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:35 pm
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Opinions:
1. Add "Preset Editor" "Media Library" "Community" tabs along the bottom.
2. Add a "Master Volume" and "Blend" control to every amp’s "Advanced Settings" feature.
3. Add a right-click mouse pop-up feature that opens a descriptive "what is" balloon for each control.
4. Allow multiple "Stomp Box" "Modulation" "Delay" "Reverb" pedals to be used in conjunction with each other.
5. Include a volume output equalizing feature that equalizes the volume levels output for each amp preset. (a way to ensure each amps volume will be consistent among each other when using a pedal to switch between presets)
6. Need to fix each amps volume output in general - example: the '65 Twins volume output is low.
7. Add more amp models, and name them something we can recognize - without violating copyright laws.
8. Include more pedal effects, or a developer software package that allows anyone to create/alter/share custom pedals. (Be sure it includes an oscilloscope window)
9. Allow multiple folders to be created/accessed within the "Preset Folder" (not a priority, but would be nice)
10. Standardize the Accounts - A single "User Name" and "Password" should give access to anything Fender.
11. Include a simple "Add Drive To" switch/knob to every clean amp model, for those users who don't know how to use pedals. (for beginners)
12. Allow the user to choose the apps color/font scheme. Example: Someone would have the freedom to change the Amps Prest Bank LED Colors from "Amber" "Green" "Red" to "Red" "White" "Blue". (Also on the physical amp, If possible)
13. Having 6 Pre/Post-amp "Effects Slots" should be standard. (rather then 4-4)
14. Include a "User Pedal Library" where you can store your "tweeked" pedal settings, ready to be dropped into their pre/post amp stot.
15. Add an accessable "Digital Readout Level" feature to each control. Example: The OD pedal includes a "Gain Control"- you should be able to manually input this level using your keyboard keys. IE: by entering the number 25, 30, 75 etc.
16. Having a "5-band EQ" pedal/rack should be standard.
17. Having a "Metronome Feature" would be good.
18. For new players - having a way to measure and balance each strings output level would be great. It would allow them to correctly adjust the pickups height(each side), and/or pickups pole screws - as in humbuckers.
19. There should be a "Save As" button along with the "New" "Open" "Import" "Save" and "Delete" buttons. When clicked, it should give you the option as to where to save the preset - on your computer or in one of the amps preset banks.

Feel free to add more to the list, or mod the pic.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Would Like Your Feedback...
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:47 pm
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Before adding any glorious new bells and whistles, the Fuse development team should fix the bug with USB that results in many Windows 7 users getting the "No Amplifier Connected" error. I've spent a ridiculous amount of time (with the troubleshooting guide as a starting point) trying to isolate the issue, and as an IT professional, I am pretty sure this is a problem with Fuse and not my (and many others...see the forums) computer or operating system. If Fuse can't play well with USB mice, keyboards, printers, external hard drives, etc., in various modern operating systems, then it is not a finished product.

Until such time as the Fuse development team finishes debugging their product, it is useless to me.


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