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Post subject: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:30 am
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I'm very frustrated with this. When I first load a preset, the onscreen UI "knobs" are in one position and when I scroll the preset to select a different one with the same amp model, the knobs remain in the previous position, even though they should change to indicate the different settings in the new preset and new sound.

The UI display "knob" positions have no relation to the successive presets.

I've done nothing but waste hours trying to use Fuse because of this. What's wrong here? :?:

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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:20 am
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Bezmotivnik wrote:
I'm very frustrated with this. When I first load a preset, the onscreen UI "knobs" are in one position and when I scroll the preset to select a different one with the same amp model, the knobs remain in the previous position, even though they should change to indicate the different settings in the new preset and new sound.

The UI display "knob" positions have no relation to the successive presets.

I've done nothing but waste hours trying to use Fuse because of this. What's wrong here? :?:

Thanks for any help!

Hi...
That's odd. I just checked my fuse / preset / GDec 3 setup and found that in either the basic or advanced amp setting in fuse, using blackface cln amplifier (the one I use most, so I know which presets are associated!) changing a preset (using fuse) also changed the settings on the amp GUI....as long as the amp settings for each preset were different, of course.
I changed presets both by scrolling and hopping in Fuse just in case one worked differently from the other.
I'm using an older version of Fuse...2.30 and have the 1.04 firmware update on the amp.
A couple of questions.......
1. which amplifier(s) showed this behaviour
2. Were the settings truly different for some of the amp controls in the different presets?(I imagine that you've thought about this, but it's my OCD which makes me ask!)
3. What version of Fuse/firmware are you using?
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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:27 am
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AlexeiY wrote:
1. which amplifier(s) showed this behaviour
2. Were the settings truly different for some of the amp controls in the different presets?(I imagine that you've thought about this, but it's my OCD which makes me ask!)
3. What version of Fuse/firmware are you using?

1: All of them.

2: Yes, you can take a preset and scroll down through all of the amps and the knobs don't change, though the sound does.

3. v2.6.0 and it does this on two machines one with XPSP3 and the other Win7/64. It does it if the amp's plugged in or if it's just being done silently when the amp's disconnected.

It seems to change the first time the amp's changed, then it freezes. You can scroll through them all, but the knobs don't move.


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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:28 am
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Go figure! I tried again with several other amps and my fuse/GDec 3 combo still works fine (good for me, not too helpful for you, unfortunately). I'm running Win7/64 bit on my laptop.
Your problem may have to do with fuse 2.60 and Silverlight. There were quite a few comments about problems here...
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=68272
This sounds like a job for................. 8) Alan W. 8)
Sorry I couldn't help
Alex
ps...on a positive note, at least the sound changes, tho' I know it's frustrating.

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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:47 am
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Hi Bezmotivnik,

I am sorry that you are having troubles with this. This is an issue that we are aware of and have added a fix for in a coming update. We are in testing with this now and will be releasing it very soon. In the mean time, you can edit as you normally would and the channel settings will be saved to the amp correctly, but will not be displayed correctly when moving from Preset to Preset with like models in Fender FUSE. These Presets should load and function correctly to your amp with or without being connected to Fender FUSE.

We appreciate your patience very much. Please let us know if you have any questions in the mean time.

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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:38 pm
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Alan Willey - Fender wrote:
Hi Bezmotivnik,

I am sorry that you are having troubles with this. This is an issue that we are aware of and have added a fix for in a coming update. We are in testing with this now and will be releasing it very soon. In the mean time, you can edit as you normally would and the channel settings will be saved to the amp correctly, but will not be displayed correctly when moving from Preset to Preset with like models in Fender FUSE. These Presets should load and function correctly to your amp with or without being connected to Fender FUSE.

We appreciate your patience very much. Please let us know if you have any questions in the mean time.


Hi Bezmotivnik....
I had a thought that in the interim, you could possibly downgrade your version of Fuse to 2.30...it works very well and the main reason that I haven't upgraded for over a year is that the newer versions (2.4 and on) removed the ability to change the amp timbre via fuse (could still be done via the GDec controls, but that would mean moving between the computer and amplifier whilst creating/modifying a new preset which seems somewhat counterproductive), but I can no longer find a link to it on the Fender site above in the download section. There's a link to v2.41, but that's as far back as I've found. I'd attach 2.30 if I knew how, but it's about 320MB which is pretty big.
Maybe Alan has a link to it......????
Good luck....
btw, I really, really like the GDec amplifier for practicing and recording.
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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:43 pm
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AlexeiY wrote:
I had a thought that in the interim, you could possibly downgrade your version of Fuse to 2.30.

I was thinking about rolling it back, but it seems like that would create more problems, as you note.

Yeah, I couldn't understand why we got saddled with Silverlight either. I'm sure there's an interesting story there. :roll:

I picked up the G-DEC3 in the recent closeout *PURELY* because it looked like FUSE would continue to be developed and supported, and FMIC wasn't going to cut and run on it like other manufacturers have with their software. The interface looked like it was going to make all the capabilities more intuitive and accessible but I'm not impressed so far, having hit such a basic problem so quickly and wasted so much time on it, trying to figure out what *I* was doing wrong.

Modeling/DSP/MFX is only as good as its editing software. I have at least a half-dozen of these devices in my studio from different manufacturers (DigiTech, Yamaha, M-Audio, etc.) that I discarded simply because deep-editing was onerous and/or buggy and/or poorly documented with the net result that they were more trouble than they were worth to use.

I'm an outcome-oriented guy. I hate wasting time screwing with this stuff, especially when it doesn't work or doesn't work rationally and intuitively. That's just frustrating downtime. It's not music, it's not creative and it's not fun.

DSP is the future, but it has to be fairly transparent in the UI and rock solid.

I'll set this thing aside for now and hope for better luck with a bugfix.


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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:08 pm
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Hi Bezmotivnik,

I definitely hear what you are saying. And I can assure you that we are continuing development for Fender FUSE. And again, I can assure you that this channel knobs bug that is present in the current Fender FUSE build has been addressed and will be included in the update coming shortly. Other than that, do you have additional concerns about Fender FUSE at the moment? If so, let me know. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:28 am
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Hi, I have the same problem on my Mustang II.On W7-64, I have latest Fuse 2.6.0.25 with 1.10 firmware. The amp knobs on Fuse do not move in sync with the knobs on my actual amp when I am turning them, also when switchig between presets with the same amp, the knobs stay in the same position before the switch. Is there a sollution to this?
Downgrading to 2.6.0.22 and 10.9 dint help.

Update:
OK, it definitly has to do with Silverlight 5, cause with version 4 it works with no problem.


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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:16 am
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Hi brane01,

This is a known issue and we are in testing now with a new build of Fender FUSE that addresses this. Please hang tight as we get testing completed on this. Thanks very much.

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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:34 pm
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I'm checking back every few days hoping for the fix to be posted. :(


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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:28 am
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Bezmotivnik wrote:
I'm checking back every few days hoping for the fix to be posted. :(

Good plan, but remember that it's summer. I don't know what happens in California in summer (gets hotter? more tourists??), but here in the Great White North, the lakes and rivers lose their ice and we all go out to play 8)
cheers, as always...
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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:31 am
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Bezmotivnik wrote:
I'm checking back every few days hoping for the fix to be posted. :(

I am doing this since mid of April ...


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Post subject: Re: Frozen "Knob" Positions When Switching Presets
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:17 am
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Hi Guys,

I apologize for the delays here. We are in testing with the next Fender FUSE update now as I have been saying. And we very much appreciate your patience. Sometimes there are unexpected surprises along the way. But we definitely are working on this update and should have it completed soon. Thanks again.

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