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Post subject: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:32 am
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Getting a little tired of my monolog in this thread , because nobody seems to care. I came closer to the conditions in which the display error appears.

The error I'm describing in the other thread is the following:
After saving a preset, changes of controls on the physical amp is no longer displayed in Fuse, though it obviously gets a message from the amp that s.th. has been changed. You can veryfie this because of the lit savebutton on the screen.

Now I know even more: The error appears under each condition, when a new preset is chosen, but the amp-modell is the same! (where a freshly saved preset seems to be treated like new chosen one)

Examples:
- I change between two presets, one with Deluxe as amp, the other with a Bassman. Everything fine, no problem. I can see the controls turning on the screen when they are turned on the amp.
- I change between two presets, both a Deluxe Model, one with much gain, the other clean. => the amp-section of Fuse freezes, no changes are displayed, not even the initial ones of the chosen preset.

It doesn't depend if I choose the presets manually or by footswitch.

The error determins "only" the controls of the fuse-screen, if, lets say, the second preset has an overdrive as stompbox and the first not, the overdrive is displayed! But ruling the level of the FX on the amp is not shown too. The virtuall controls of Fuse seems to get a wrong command like "chosen amp is the same like the one before, you must not repaint anymore".

Only way to get rid of the stucked controls is: Restarting Fuse, Rebooting the amp or choosing another preset which has not the same amp-model.

The error appears since I updated to Fuse 2.6 and Firmware 1.9 but that seems not to be the reason, because rolling back to 2.4 and 1.8 didnt help. I consider the bundeld update of MS-Silverlight as the guilty, i.e. something in the communication between Fuse and Silverlight goes wrong.

I allready f**ed up some of my presets, because what I save is not what I see, and i hope that finally somebody cares about this topic. I hope my "investigations" will help the fender developers to fix this problem quickly.

Yep, for those who didnt read the other thread: This error happens on three Mustangs, a Mini, a I and a II and with three different computers!

By the way: is it possible to go back a step with Silverlight to the previous version, and if yes, how?

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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:56 pm
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Hey Frente,

As I mentioned in the other post, our software team is working on a fix. This does not appear to happen in Silverlight 4. It may be a good idea to uninstall SL 5 for now and install version 4.

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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:06 am
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Thanks Loren for your feedback.

Yes, this morning I veryfied it - the error appears only with Silverlight5. I uninstalled SL5 and downloaded and installed SL4. Now the knobs keep turning after preset-change or saving :)

But:
Silverlight5 is bundeled to Fuse 2.6 for a good reason as I experienced: Fuse 2.6 refuses to work with Silverlight4 !
So we have to tell the people that if they want to downgrade to SL4 for to prevent the error they have to downgrade to Fuse 2.4 or 2.5 too.

To comfort those who love the new Touch Wah: It works fine with the older Fuse versions too, because of course it is located in the firmware of the Amp and not inside Fuse. But you will see the old inscriptions again and the "Q"-Control doesn't behave as on/off switch like in Fuse 2.6.


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:05 am
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Is there any source to download version 2.5 or 2.4 again?


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:56 am
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Yes. In the menu "support" on top of this page look for "Help", "Fender Fuse" and then tab "downloads".


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:36 am
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thank you very much!


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:14 pm
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I've been dealing with this same bug on my Mustang II for a few months now. Any idea when the fix will be ready?


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:03 am
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I have no idea why it lasts so long. Maybe they are planing bigger things for the next version (2.x) of Fuse or they have communication problems with chinese firm- and software developers ;)
I know that even weeks ago there was a beta with a workaround for this bug, but unfortunately it showed the same misbehavior in the advanced amp section of Fuse.

You know the play "Waiting for Godot" ...


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:29 pm
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Hi Chumazik (Guys),

We appreciate your patience. This issue has been addressed and will be included in our next update. I cannot give a specific date. But we are testing that build at this time. We will make the update available on the Fender FUSE Community home page and announce on the Forums once it is out. Thanks again for your patience.

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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:04 pm
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I am a new user so bear with me. The problem that I see is that if you change from one custom preset using a specific amp model and then change to another that uses the same amp the display does not update. You have to change to a preset that uses a different amp model and then back to the one that you want to get the display to read correctly. There are so many little interface issues with this Fuse software. It doesn't appear that anyone ever tested this much at all before sending it out. And I am using version 2.6! Cut, copy and paste don't appear to work almost anywhere in the software forcing you to retype everything over and over. Fender really should put some work into fixing this.


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:43 am
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Hi cblacker,

What version of Fender FUSE are you using? Also, what operating system are you running (specific version)? If you can let us know, we will be glad to offer some additional assistance. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:16 am
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I was using the 2.6 version but I eventually located the public beta version. This seems to have fixed the display update problem. What is up with Fender anyway? The public beta was never released and the software has not been updated in years apparently. It isn't like Fender is a failing company, is it simply lack of interest on their part? Why continent to sell amps that use it? This is my first ever solid state amp (mustang 1) after owning numerous Super Reverbs, Twin Reverbs, and my last amp, a brown Concert that I owned for nearly 40 years. I actually kind of like it but the amp doesn't respond at all to input volume changes like a real tube amp. You really need a separate program for each different volume level for any given model you might create. Unfortunately it is fairly hopeless without the Fuse software for stage use forcing you to have to use a laptop with it to have any real time control. But, that being said it sounds better than any other solid state amp I have tried. Most of the presets are pretty lame. I think that Fender should invest more time and effort into modeling their major classic tube amps more accurately. The Twin Reverb sound is terrible, nothing like a real one. Put the real thing in the same room with someone and give them an A/B switch and make them get it right, and do it with both a Fender and a Gibson to set it up to act like what people are really looking for. Heck, have the community compete for the most accurate versions and then give them prizes and recognition. Have them do the work for you. I think people want inexpensive access to the sounds that made Fender famous.


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Post subject: Re: Bug: Amp Control-Setting are not shown in Fuse
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:32 am
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Hi cblacker,

I hear what you are saying. And we appreciate your feedback, both positive and negative. To clarify a couple of items here, we updated the Fender FUSE software and offered the Public Beta build both in 2012 as we have been working continually to improve the software. And we are about to release an upgrade to the software. In regard to the control of different amp models, with the access of all channel controls on each Preset, typically users will set up the Presets they want to use for live use and go.

It looks like you are using the Fender Mustang II. It is a great amp, but it not as geared towards live performance as the Mustang III-V, which offer extended on-board controls and foot switch options. And it sounds like the Preset display issue is working correctly for you in the newer Public Beta build. As stated, we will be releasing an upgrade to Fender FUSE very shortly. Please let us know if we can assist with anything else in the mean time.

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