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What FUSE compatible amp should I buy for bedroom?
Poll ended at Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:10 pm
Mustang I or II 43%  43%  [ 3 ]
Mustang III / IV / V 29%  29%  [ 2 ]
GDEC 3 Series 29%  29%  [ 2 ]
Wait for a while, see what else may be offered 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Post subject: Which amp BEST for FUSE?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:10 pm
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Find myself in a unique position. My Mustang II met with a warranty issue and I am being sent a GC gift card to replace it. Loved the Must II, but now I have a new choice.

So, and please offer your opinion for the best Fender amp to buy today for FUSE software? I don't require this to be a gigging amp. Just a bedroom amp that works with FUSE.

I am looking to download presets and backing tracks primarily. Home recording in the near future. What would you recommend to a friend?

Edits made for clarity. Thanks for tip on Poll options. Removed poll option for older GDEC's.


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Post subject: Re: Which amp BEST for FUSE?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:15 am
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First of all, the older G-DECs shouldn't be in this poll, as they don't work with FUSE. :(

Second, your choice depends on whether you want to be more tied to FUSE to tweak presets, and how much it would mean to be able to play your backing tracks through the amp.

If you mainly want to tweak through FUSE, the G-DEC 3s or Mustang I or II, would be the choice, giving preference to the G-DEC 3s if you want to play backing tracks, including midi with pitch & speed control from your amp.

If you don't want to be tied so closely to FUSE, go for a Mustang III, IV or V...probably the III for the bedroom.

Good luck with your decision...one I'd like to have! :wink:
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Post subject: Like to leverage FUSE
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:45 am
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I would like to maximize the capabilities of FUSE for this decision. The FUSE community has not taken on the popularity I expected yet, but I still think that over the long haul that the integration of the computer and amp will be the way to go and FUSE community participation will increase and mature.

As far as the amp playing the backing tracks, yes, that would be nice. I can feed replay computer music files through the Mustang amps via the "AUX" input. GDEC 3 also offers this capability. Appreciate your comments. After research, the GDEC 3 series has the ability to control playback of jamtracks through FUSE.

Managing one computer application interface would be slightly easier. Although, I may have more control of the replay computer music files (jamtracks, MP3, media files) using a separate application designed specifically for that purpose on the computer via the "AUX" input. The quandary continues.


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Post subject: Re: Which amp BEST for FUSE?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:55 am
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itswhatido wrote:
So, and please offer your opinion for the best Fender amp to buy today for FUSE software? I don't require this to be a gigging amp. Just a bedroom amp that works with FUSE.

I am looking to download presets and backing tracks primarily. Home recording in the near future. What would you recommend to a friend?

At $100, you can do just fine with an MI. As the Fender rep Loren Howard pointed out in another thread, all the Mustang amps will sound virtually identical through earphones or the USB. If you will NEVER use the amp in any other situation than home practice and connected to your computer, the many features of the other models become much less important. The G-DEC is 3X the price of a MI, are it's extra features that important to you?

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Although, I may have more control of the replay computer music files (jamtracks, MP3, media files) using a separate application designed specifically for that purpose on the computer via the "AUX" input. The quandary continues.

If your talking about playing back MP3's, yeah, any of the many audio players will do. If on the other hand you are thinking of using such players for playback of Fender band tracks in a repeating loop, you will be going through many to find one that will play back seamlessly.

I have tried many audio players with so called "repeat indefinitely" features - including Media Player Classic and the loop is never completely "seamless". There is always a slight "bump" which is annoying and throws off your timing. Others. that did do right, were large programs intender for DJ's and electronic music creation.

The MP3 format doesn't support meta data for setting loop points, so gappless playback will not be smooth when playing looped. I am fairly certain that other audio formats commonly used on PC's also carry no meta data for loop points but I could be wrong.

AFAIK, only the WAV format can contain meta data for loop points.

The reason that all the band tracks on the Fender site are in WAV format is so they can be looped seamlessly in the FUSE player, so you can play over them as long as you like and it will sound like one long jam.

Of coarse, most of the MP3 backing tracks are quite long so it's not so bad as your approaching your pratice as a song - and that's good.

With the band tracks like those that come from Fender, since they play as an infinite jam, your more inclined to develope improvisation skills and learn to let your self go...

The only simple little program that did the looping right that I found was Looper and I probably spent more time than I should have finding it. Or maybe I still don't know how to google.... But, Looper will always play the file looped (no way to turn off looping).

I found it pretty discouraging that there wasn't a nice little audio player especially designed for playing back backing/band tracks. So,I wrote a Python script for my own use that gives me the features I want when I don't need to open FUSE and I just want to jam against a band track. Unfortunately, I have no web site or online file storage/sharing account so, I can't make it available to the general public.

Here's a screenies of my app for the curious...

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:20 am
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Excellent post. Very useful and informative. 5 stars for you.

There is no substitute for practical experience. The willingness to share experiences by gracious you and the community is precisely why I am convinced that leveraging FUSE software is definitely the way to go for me.

Noticed the P90's tag in you moniker. Don't want to drift off-topic too far, but I am focusing my attention on my super unique Rio Grande prototype P90's on my Schecter Solo-6 (Les Paul type) guitar. The FUSE software offers me the ability to model and tweak things I could never afford.

The P90's -> and and... Note that these are prototypes and built for test purposes only. Production units have better build quality.

The M1 option would be practical and the least expensive. Thanks again for your insight and for sharing your knowledge. This approach will get me going right away and let me focus on my guitar projects and my tone quest.


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Post subject: Re: Which amp BEST for FUSE?
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:35 pm
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One option that was not mentioned are the footswitches. The mIII comes with a 2 button and can also use a 4 button together. The MI, MII, and G-Dec's only use a 1 button and it is not included. I picked up a MIV for $349 (sweet) and I really love it. I will probably add the 2 button in the future to go along with the included 4 button. 8)


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Post subject: Re: Which amp BEST for FUSE?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:40 pm
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Actually, the G-DEC 3s use the 4-button switch, but with different options than when used with the Mustangs! :wink:


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