It is currently Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:37 pm

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 91 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next
Author Message
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:54 pm
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:43 pm
Posts: 318
Hi ischenitte,

Been playing your guitar?

Been using the band tracks?

When you mentioned that you dug out the Delphi that had been collecting dust, it reminded me that it had been a while since I did anything in Python so I started looking at some python code to see if it rang any bells. I realized that I could create an audio player that looped a WAV file and had a built in tuner with a very minimal amount of code using Python's built in winsound modual. So I have D/L'd the latest Python 2.7.1 for Windows(has pyWin32 built-in), wxPython for making GUI's and wxFormBuilder as an IDE.

So, although it will detract from my guitar playing, I plan on dong this one project just to bring my chops up.

Then I got to thinking (which can mean trouble)... Python interfaces with a lot of OO type languages including Delphi. Here's a set of free components that wrap up the Python Dll into Delphi. There are links to tutorials in English and French on that page.

It looks like that might be an easy way to add a band track player that loops audio as well as a tuner to HorseTamer. Also, you could take the file name of the band track and write the appropriate XML into the preset selected in the right-hand pane.

This would simplify lesbeat's efforts to rewrite band track info on a preset coming from the ampand would also solve the problem in FUSE with previewing different band tracks and presets together efficiently. Since HorseTamer is independent of FUSE - you can run them at the same time and just audition presets in FUSE and use HorseTamer to audition band tracks then, assign them to presets if you wish.

I'm just throwing some ideas at you ischenitte, I know that if band tracks don't interest you much, it's hard to be enthusiastic about taking the time to do all the coding necessary.

But... he, he, I've got another request... one that you may be more interested in...

In the right hand panel (computer presets), the presets are listed alphabetically. I was hoping that it might be possible to list them by:
  • Alphabet
  • Amp Type
  • Author
  • Genre (first)
That way, you could more easily find the types of files when creating "set libraries" (backups).

I don't know what you might have going in RL so, if you can swing it, cool. If it's too much at this time, that's cool too.


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:17 pm
Offline
Amateur
Amateur

Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:56 pm
Posts: 189
p90sdude wrote:
Hi ischenitte,

Been using the band tracks?

It looks like that might be an easy way to add a band track player that loops audio as well as a tuner to HorseTamer. Also, you could take the file name of the band track and write the appropriate XML into the preset selected in the right-hand pane.

This would simplify lesbeat's efforts to rewrite band track info on a preset coming from the ampand would also solve the problem in FUSE with previewing different band tracks and presets together efficiently. Since HorseTamer is independent of FUSE - you can run them at the same time and just audition presets in FUSE and use HorseTamer to audition band tracks then, assign them to presets if you wish.

I'm just throwing some ideas at you ischenitte


8) 8) 8) That *would* be VERY cool. Not to mention that the tuner may work better than the one in Fuse....

Good ideas...!


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:50 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 33
Hey p90sdude

Nice to hear from you, good ideas are of course always welcome. Just read your post, and have not been looking in depth into your ideas, but they sound rather good (as always). I've not used band tracks, but if it's not that difficult, we will see ;-) .

I've been playing a lot since my last post, because my band had the first gig ever yesterday evening, and it was great! It was also my first personal gig, and also the first gig with my mustang IV! So I had not a lot time to improve Horse Tamer.

So I will study your docs and try to understand it ;-)
Hope this is ok for you!


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:20 pm
Offline
Amateur
Amateur

Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:31 pm
Posts: 171
Just a note to say that HorseTamer runs fine under WINE in Linux Mint 10.

Haven't tried it with amp plugged in yet.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:02 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician

Joined: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:43 pm
Posts: 318
jbloggs wrote:
Haven't tried it with amp plugged in yet.

HorseTamer doesn't access the Mustang amp directly. You'll need to use piorekf's unofficial FUSE for Linux - PLUG to do that.

ischenitte wrote:
Hey p90sdude

Nice to hear from you, good ideas are of course always welcome. Just read your post, and have not been looking in depth into your ideas, but they sound rather good (as always). I've not used band tracks, but if it's not that difficult, we will see ;-) .

I've been playing a lot since my last post, because my band had the first gig ever yesterday evening, and it was great! It was also my first personal gig, and also the first gig with my mustang IV! So I had not a lot time to improve Horse Tamer.

So I will study your docs and try to understand it ;-)
Hope this is ok for you!

Good to hear about the gig! Sounds like your plate is full ATM so, I understand it may be a while before you can look it to the ideas.

Just as a "heads up", while brushing up on Python, I saw a reference to a PyDelphi tool available (under the "Samples header) on this page. I don't know how much good it would be without the documentation in the book tho... :?

Cheers and no worries,

dude


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:58 pm
Offline
Amateur
Amateur

Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:31 pm
Posts: 171
p90sdude

no worries. Have "plug" installed and running also.

Still havent had time to attach amp and try it out as am still setting up new MSi laptop with both Win7 and Linux Mint.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:35 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 33
@lesbeat and p90sdude
I just try to understand the band tracks thing and have some questions.

Am I right:
- that you can set one or several band tracks (MP3s) per preset in the media library
- that this info is saved into the preset XML file on the computer
- that this info is not transported to amp when a backup is restored
- if you do a backup, the band track info on the amp is not in the backed up presets (if they ever were on the amp before)

Do I understand you right:
- If you "prepared" the media library with band tracks on the computer and assigned them to the presets, the band track data is saved to the preset XML file. If you backup the amp data to PC, this band track data is no more in the preset XML. Now you would like to do some kind of automated assignment of the correct band tracks to the presets.

In my opinion, this could only be done by comparing the preset name coming from amp (via backup functionality) with the preset name in the media libray, and if there is a matching preset name, "copy" the band track data. This functionality maybe could be on a button in Horse Tamer like "write band track info to presets in actual backup".

Is that, what you think of?

(excuse me, if I'm too complicated, but I try to understand the mechanism of this band tracks stuff).

Hope I get you right. By the way, I have not looked at the Python stuff at the moment, but will, if it's clear to me. Do you have already python code for this audio functionality (playing MP3, looping, Tuner)? I'm not sure, if this is a bit above my programming skills. We'll see.

Cheers
Ivo


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:22 pm
Offline
Amateur
Amateur

Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:56 pm
Posts: 189
ischenitte wrote:
@lesbeat and p90sdude
I just try to understand the band tracks thing and have some questions.

Am I right:
- that you can set one or several band tracks (MP3s) per preset in the media library
- that this info is saved into the preset XML file on the computer
- that this info is not transported to amp when a backup is restored
- if you do a backup, the band track info on the amp is not in the backed up presets (if they ever were on the amp before)

Do I understand you right:
- If you "prepared" the media library with band tracks on the computer and assigned them to the presets, the band track data is saved to the preset XML file. If you backup the amp data to PC, this band track data is no more in the preset XML. Now you would like to do some kind of automated assignment of the correct band tracks to the presets.

In my opinion, this could only be done by comparing the preset name coming from amp (via backup functionality) with the preset name in the media libray, and if there is a matching preset name, "copy" the band track data. This functionality maybe could be on a button in Horse Tamer like "write band track info to presets in actual backup".

Is that, what you think of?

(excuse me, if I'm too complicated, but I try to understand the mechanism of this band tracks stuff).

Hope I get you right. By the way, I have not looked at the Python stuff at the moment, but will, if it's clear to me. Do you have already python code for this audio functionality (playing MP3, looping, Tuner)? I'm not sure, if this is a bit above my programming skills. We'll see.

Cheers
Ivo


The info that we are talking about would be in the fuse\ampdata directory. When you save a band track to a amp preset it writes the BAND node section in the pertinent preset file (one band track only is allowed). You might want to save a band track to a amp preset and look at before and after files to see what exactly is happening...

I might suggest that if a your app is going to replace a amp preset, it could copy that the current bank track info somewhere until after the restore is done then your app could write it back to the fuse file. The logistics involved would have to be figured out, that is, do you prompt the user about it or track it or what... not sure...


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:26 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 33
@lesbeat:
I've just fiddled with FUSE a bit ... is this correct, that with FUSE you can only add band tracks to the presets in the preset directory, but not to the ones on the amp? So to add band tracks to the factory presets, you have to load them first to the preset directory (with Horse Tamer) and then you can add band tracks with FUSE?

Thanks for clarification ;-)


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:07 am
Offline
Amateur
Amateur

Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:56 pm
Posts: 189
ischenitte wrote:
@lesbeat:
I've just fiddled with FUSE a bit ... is this correct, that with FUSE you can only add band tracks to the presets in the preset directory, but not to the ones on the amp? So to add band tracks to the factory presets, you have to load them first to the preset directory (with Horse Tamer) and then you can add band tracks with FUSE?

Thanks for clarification ;-)


No, you can add band tracks to presets in the ampdata directory as well. Select a amp model and click the Band button in fuse and go from there. Once you save it, the band track info is saved to the fuse XML file (FUSE\AmpData\MU_15.fuse for example) in the ampdata directory.

Is that what you are asking me?


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:40 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:37 am
Posts: 88
Location: Stockton NJ USA
Hi ischenitte,

First thanks so much for sharing this software with us. It has been working really well for me and I have been able to make a number of preset backups. However, now I'm getting this error box every time I open the software.

It's a box with a red circle and an X inside it, and "Invalid at Top Level of the Document. Line:1 Mustang 3 set 5"
(Sorry I don't seem to be able to cut and paste an image)

So I tried deleting that backup, that didn't help. So I uninstalled Horse Tamer, and then downloaded it again. It installed ok. I did the setting item to tell it where the presets were and it gave me the error box like before. I don't seem to be able to correct this. Maybe, you could give me some ideas what I should try? I even uninstalled Fuse and reinstalled it again, and that didn't help either.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

John (64 year young disabled Rocker)


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:42 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 33
Hi John

You've got a pn.

Cheers
ischenitte


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:33 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:37 am
Posts: 88
Location: Stockton NJ USA
Hi ischenitte,

Thanks for getting back to me so soon. But what is a pn? and is there anything I can do to not keep getting that error box open all the time, when I try to use the program?

Thanks,

John (64 year young disabled Rocker)


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:55 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 33
JohnR242 wrote:
Hi ischenitte,

Thanks for getting back to me so soon. But what is a pn? and is there anything I can do to not keep getting that error box open all the time, when I try to use the program?

Thanks,

John (64 year young disabled Rocker)

I meant PM (personal message here in the forum), you should have my message in your inbox here in the forum.

As I need more information of your error, you should send me a screenshot and some files, described in the message, and also my email address.

ischenitte


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Horse Tamer Preset Organizer - for Mustang- / FUSE-Users
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:45 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:37 am
Posts: 88
Location: Stockton NJ USA
Hi ischenitte,

Sorry, I'm not up on all this, forum speak? Please bear with me; I am elderly and unfortunately disabled. But I still Rock out on my guitar, and really love this Mustang 2 I have recently purchased. It certainly beats Line 6 into the ground; I have tried their Spiders and Ax212 model and found them all to be very digital and Shrill ? Is that the word for getting on your nerves ? Any how, thank you once again for your help. I shall now go and see if I can read the message you sent.
You said Cheers at the end of your last message. Are you maybe British? I am, I was born in Portsmouth. (actually in Eastney, a spit away)

Thanks again, and Cheers!

John (64 year young disabled Rocker)


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Forum locked This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 91 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 7  Next

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: