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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:34 pm
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I've got a G-DEC 3...has there been any issues with the wah on them to your knowledge?!?

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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:24 pm
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Thanks Loren ,
I will check it out tomorrow ( Tuesday 11th ) . Thanks for taking the time to look into this. I will write back and let you know how it sounds on my end !


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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:21 pm
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hope yous don't flame me ..
Yeah major crap. Just tried out the Wah .. holy macro..only way to make it kind wah.. is you hit a string and move the Freq. back and forth with the mouse lol .. and the fuzz wah
is a damn defect !!! that can really damage the speaker .. I tried everything I could ..putting the wah before and after.. but nothing resembles even a minute wah effect ... Sorry, I thought I tried this before and although it was faint i thought it was normal ...but it needs a serious look. I hope yous can fix it ..cause i see some cool options now that i've tested it..(the fuzz wah with octave built-in) looks like fun ..but actually make it sound like something half decent pleases lol ..that was nutz :oops:
Not meaning to offend anybody ..but man ... it was almost hilarious ..especially using it as a stomp effect ..even rack wah sounds the same.

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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:54 am
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I'm getting no 'w' or 'ah' from the Waht's Wrong Preset. No decent wah's from any of the other boxes in Fuse either. GarageBand has a killer wah effect, so my guess is that it is possible (or should be) with Fuse as well.

Any more suggestions Fender?


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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:45 pm
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Hi Guys,

Bob - I apologize. I actually forgot that you have a G-DEC. I"ve uploaded a new Waht's Wrong - G-DEC version to the Community.

I noticed an issue with the previous Mustang Waht's Wrong and I've uploaded a new version of that one as well.

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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:49 pm
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Thanks! I'll download it and see what I'm doing wrong. :)


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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:49 pm
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I did try it today, and like Alinux said, it was not working at all. ( You will not get flamed , because you are telling the truth )

I see Loren mentioned it is fixed, so I will check it out thursday. Bclarke, you are not doing anything wrong, it soundls like there is a technical issue. Hopefully they resoved it.
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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:52 pm
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I just downloaded the new Waht's Wrong and still get no wah. WHAT is wrong? Pardon the pun!


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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:01 pm
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chaprock wrote:
WHAT is wrong?


.................. LOL :lol:

Picked a good name for it Loren............. hehe .. I guess the G-Dec's and every other auto-wah is fine but this effect in the Mustang Amps is completely wrong. One dial seems to do something (makes the guitar sound muted perhaps) but the other 4 dials do nuffin ..even the Octave dial ..is dead air ... no Wah Wah effect what-so-ever less you sit there and wave it with the mouse but even then it sounds wrong ..Its gotta be a defect cause when you use Fuzz Wah that kills the speaker in the Amp if you hit the strings to hard and I play at volumes 2-4 ..could imagine on 6-7 .. ouch.

I don't really care .. I got what i paid for ..but maybe its something easy to fix once the Mustangs Dev's. look into it.

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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:55 am
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Any thoughts on this Fender? I'd sure like to get some decent wah out of this amp. Has there been or will there be any progress on figuring this out?

The latest 'Waht's Wrong' for Mustangs doesn't work.

Please let us know.

Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:07 am
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Hey Guys,

Just so we understand, you're looking for the rhythmic wah wah effect and not so much the talking guitar wah sound, correct? Are you able to hear any wah sound at all? Do you notice a difference in the sound at all when the effect is in the chain vs being bypassed?

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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:35 pm
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Loren Howard - Fender wrote:
Hey Guys,

Just so we understand, you're looking for the rhythmic wah wah effect and not so much the talking guitar wah sound, correct?

Yes...either, but I have no idea what that means. I've never actually heard of neither of them.

Are you able to hear any wah sound at all?

Nothing Loren. I've tried for a while back and forth between the stomp and rack but not even a minute squeak of a 'wah' sound can be produced.

Do you notice a difference in the sound at all when the effect is in the chain vs being bypassed?

Yes. It sounds like somethings definitely there (like a muted strings sound ..or extra mid-range I guess) but its bad. (Ask Fender to plug-in and try it, then even try the Fuzz
Wah) *bad noise* sound ...like plugging into a bad speaker or having a pedal hooked up back-wards or something. I've heard the sound before when I've done something wrong ...probably daisy chaining two Amps using the wrong line-in/out ...its that bad ..seems it can harm the speaker even with my volume on two and, if you hit the string hard enough.


I just really hope the Mustang IV is fixed of this (I wouldn't want to harm the speakers by accident) ..seems like a bad chip in *some* of the MII's? .. that I can live with it. :D

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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:01 pm
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Yes, there does not seem to be any effect for rhythm or talking notes. The wah does not seem to work at all. Sometimes it is muffled other times seems to just not do anything. If you get it fixed, just letnus know.
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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:16 pm
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I also get no change with the wah pedal in 'Waht's Wrong Mustang'.

I'm looking for the 'talking wah' sound as well as the rhythm, but I can't seem to dial in a decent one of either.

Keep at it Loren! We appreciate your efforts and look forward to the fix.


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Post subject: Re: FUSE - WAH , and AMPLITUDE LE QUESTION
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:49 pm
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First off, there isn't going to be a pedal that seriously reproduces the Wah experience due to the nature of the pedal. I mean, some players alternate between accenting single notes like a touch wah effect and in the same song, use the pedal as a more continuous, wavering effect. Earl Hooker's "Wah Blues" is a prime example of this explanation.

So that either leaves you to a footswitch (and two presets with two different Wah settings) or selecting one Wah effect and going with it.

I once had a DOD Tech 4X that had an AWESOME touch wah setting on it. The effect was much like what Fender has done with the TW effect in FUSE. A stronger attack yeilds a more "angry" and vocal sounding wah. Like Loren was saying - a "talkier" effect. Think Frampton's soloing in "Show Me the Way". I like to refer to the effect as "angry cat".

The continuous Wah, I'm still experimenting with, but here's what I did to get a good, nasty sounding touch wah effect:

1. Yes, the effect does mute the sound a bit. Tweak the treble and bass response on the amp to begin with. If that doesn't work, try maybe a different amp model or a different amphead/cabinet combination.

2. Set up this way to achieve a good starting point:
British 60's w/ 57 Deluxe Cabinet.
Post Gain Touch Wah: Level 10, Sensitivity 5, Min and Max Frequency 10, and Q 8

I have a preset that I'll upload later this evening entitled "Tell Me Something Good" if you don't want to bother with it yourself.

I hope I don't come across as condescending or know-it-all because I really am just trying to help pass information along that I've come up with.


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