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Post subject: Mac Titanium & Fuse
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:53 pm
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My only laptop/computer is a Mac Titanium—800 mhz Power PC G4 processor. I noticed the specs for Fuse is an Intel processor. I tried installing Fuse anyway and it doesn't seem to want to install. It starts, then quits. Will Fuse work with my old computer?


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If your system is outside of the Fender FUSE software requirements then it definitely won't work. Unfortunately, in the end we weren't able to support PowerPC Macs. I have a few at home that I can't install Fender FUSE on. See this recent post where answered a similar question.
http://fender.com/community/forums/view ... hp?t=39998

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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:54 am
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Bummer! I certainly don't have the cash to upgrade to a new laptop. I can barely afford the amp! I was so stoked about this amp and its features. I'm really disappointed now. Why purchase something if I can only use part of it. I might as well just buy Line 6's Spider amp. They just released a price drop ($399-same as the GDEC 3/30).

Thanks for the help.


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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:20 pm
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bluesdelux wrote:
Bummer! I certainly don't have the cash to upgrade to a new laptop. I can barely afford the amp! I was so stoked about this amp and its features. I'm really disappointed now. Why purchase something if I can only use part of it. I might as well just buy Line 6's Spider amp. They just released a price drop ($399-same as the GDEC 3/30).

Thanks for the help.


Bluesdelux:

Have you thought of buying a Mac Mini. They are a lot cheaper then buying a new macbook. You will be able to reuse an old monitor/keyboard/mouse and they are pretty powerful!


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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:51 am
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Actually I have, well before this amp was announced. They just came out with a new version of the MacMini this week. If I had the extra cash, I would really consider it, but like I said, I can barely afford the amp with this economy and I'd rather spend the little money I have on an amp. I really appreciate your reply and suggestion though.

I also noticed the new post about Fuse acting funny with Mac's 10.6.4 update. Just another reason for me not to go with the GDEC 3/30. With Fuse not working on Power PC Macs, and trouble with 10.6.4 (which the MacMini is probably running), it puts the Line 6 Spider Jam on somewhat of a level playing field with the GDEC 3 for me. But, with more presets and an endless looper—not 38 seconds–and the ability to export my loops as 3 separate wav files (guitars, drums, mic) to edit in a DAW. I'm not sure if the GDEC can do that.

If my budget situation changes in the near future, I probably would go with the GDEC and a new MacBook or MacMini, albeit a compatible OS system.

It's not so much as the GDEC 3 amp that's the problem, it's the combined aforementioned factors that is causing me to possibly go with something else.


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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:20 am
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bluesdelux wrote:
Actually I have, well before this amp was announced. They just came out with a new version of the MacMini this week. If I had the extra cash, I would really consider it, but like I said, I can barely afford the amp with this economy and I'd rather spend the little money I have on an amp. I really appreciate your reply and suggestion though.

I also noticed the new post about Fuse acting funny with Mac's 10.6.4 update. Just another reason for me not to go with the GDEC 3/30. With Fuse not working on Power PC Macs, and trouble with 10.6.4 (which the MacMini is probably running), it puts the Line 6 Spider Jam on somewhat of a level playing field with the GDEC 3 for me. But, with more presets and an endless looper—not 38 seconds–and the ability to export my loops as 3 separate wav files (guitars, drums, mic) to edit in a DAW. I'm not sure if the GDEC can do that.

If my budget situation changes in the near future, I probably would go with the GDEC and a new MacBook or MacMini, albeit a compatible OS system.

It's not so much as the GDEC 3 amp that's the problem, it's the combined aforementioned factors that is causing me to possibly go with something else.


bluesdelux:

I have not had a chance to look at the Spider Jam in person but the videos I have seen on youtube show it to be really nice. I had intended to look at the Line 6 and the Peavey Vypyr along with the G-Dec 3 30 watt when I went to Guitar Denter but the place was a big mess with empty boxes everywhere. Also when I saw that the G-Dec 3 30 watt had a price of $259 (which I am sure was a mistake since it sells for $399 online) I immediately took it to the counter, paid and left.

The Mac 10.6.4 problem, for me is pretty small. The drop down menu will not let you make any choices. Not too big of a problem since there are buttons to do most of those functions just below that. I wouldn't expect the wait for an update to take too long.

Again I have not had a chance to check a Spider Jam out in person but just from the videos I saw, I like how the controls are set up. You are right that the much larger looper is a BIG plus for this amp. And it is a 75 watt amp compared to the 30 for the G-Dec.

The minus for me is the lack of computer functionality. I like the Fuse software and I am beginning to become a big fan of the Amplitube software that comes with it. I do use the Amplitube software with my wife's Macbook also using a little cable called the Stealthplug. It works well and was only $99. Actually, I am looking forward to trying out the new iRig software/adapter with my iPad. If it works as good as they say, I won't have to haul around a practice amp when I travel and it will free up my wife's Macbook.

I think that you have made a great case for you buying the Spider Jam. From the videos, it is clear that it sounds very good and it sure does have most of the bells and whistles to make the guitar player happy. I know that I plan on taking a good LONG look at one the next time that I am in Guitar Denter. I do own the 30 watt G-Dec 3 and I am very happy with it although I think I need to either turn the amp down, or sit further away when I practice before I go deaf in my right ear!

God luck with your amp purchase.


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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:43 am
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truebluefliplover:

I'm heading to GC after work today to test run the Spider Jam. I'll reply again with a verdict. I tried the GDEC 3/30 there and liked it. Although, some of the harder rock presets were harsh. But, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for clean to medium overdriven tones. I loved a lot of the clean GDEC presets and simple intuitive interface. I think I read your post a while back about getting the GDEC for 259! I would have done the same thing. At that price, I would have maybe been okay with the OS issues.

I've never heard of iRig, I'll have to check it out. Although, I don't have an iPad either. I am familiar with the Stealth Plug. Sounds cool!

Another drawback to the Spider is there aren't daily or monthly new backing tracks added to Line 6's site to download. I think I can live with this considering the small amount of practice I get a week. 100-200 backing tracks should sustain me for now in addition to finding other mp3s and wav backing tracks on the web.

I have a gut feeling that the Spider Jam may be getting an upgrade since there was a price drop on it not too long ago. Hopefully my patience will pay off.


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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:33 pm
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I have a JM4 Looper, which is the pedal version of Line 6's Spider Jam, and the tone and features are nowhere close to those on the G-DEC 3s. The only thing that's better is the length of the looping feature, however, you can't store much on the looper and the SD card function is VERY limited and difficult to use.

I'm thinking of trading my JM4 for a VT30, as a backup to my AD60VTX, which is in the shop now, but the quality of the G-DEC 3 makes me wonder if that's necessary?!?

Bottom line: I think you may be disappointed by the Line 6. Not nearly as responsive to picking and guitar volume as my Vox or G-DEC 3.


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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:06 pm
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Thanks for that bit of info bclarke675. I will take that into consideration when I'm checking it out tonight.


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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:34 pm
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bluesdelux wrote:
truebluefliplover:

I'm heading to GC after work today to test run the Spider Jam. I'll reply again with a verdict. I tried the GDEC 3/30 there and liked it. Although, some of the harder rock presets were harsh. But, that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for clean to medium overdriven tones. I loved a lot of the clean GDEC presets and simple intuitive interface. I think I read your post a while back about getting the GDEC for 259! I would have done the same thing. At that price, I would have maybe been okay with the OS issues.

I've never heard of iRig, I'll have to check it out. Although, I don't have an iPad either. I am familiar with the Stealth Plug. Sounds cool!

Another drawback to the Spider is there aren't daily or monthly new backing tracks added to Line 6's site to download. I think I can live with this considering the small amount of practice I get a week. 100-200 backing tracks should sustain me for now in addition to finding other mp3s and wav backing tracks on the web.

I have a gut feeling that the Spider Jam may be getting an upgrade since there was a price drop on it not too long ago. Hopefully my patience will pay off.


bluesdelux:

I would not worry too much about there not being continuous new backing tracks to download. If the Spider Jam is anything like the G-Dec, you will be able to load your own. I bought some Hal Leonard books the other day with CD tracks that loaded into the G-Dec for practice just fine. Now that I have the G-DEC I tend to practice a LOT more. For me that "FENDER" sound played clean (and a little loud) is a big, big plus! Shoot, while you are there, give the 30 watt G-Dec 3 another try. The first one I saw, someone had taken the time to change all the presets to Maximum Gain and Maximum Volume which was not for me. After I reloaded the presets, it was a LOT better.

About the iRig. It is a cable with built in adapter along with amp/effects simulation software (Amplitube) so that you can use your iPad or iPhone just like an amplifier/effects rig. Nice for on the go! I have the software but the cable in on order.

I would not be surprised to see an upgrade on the Spider Jam either. They normally do go hand in hand with a price drop on the outgoing system.


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This is the biggie no one will tell you until you get the Spider Jam. You have to convert regular mp3s into MONO 16-bit 44KHz files (not standard) for the Spider Jam to recognize them on the SD card, and that's ONLY after you format them (sometimes several times) on the Spider Jam.

PLUS, you have to upgrade to current firmware BEFORE any of this will work!


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Thanks! I haven't ruled it out just yet. I was just wondering, if I did go with the G DEC, would there be anything I couldn't do without having Fuse, such as adding new presets and backing tracks from the web site? Could I download them to my SD card from my computer and load them into the GDEC that way?


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I think with the new G-DEC 3 firmware, you can do almost everything except some of the deep editing on the amp. Someone from Fender should correct me if I'm wrong.


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Currently the only thing you can't do directly from the amp without Fender FUSE is upload your Presets to the Community. You can download Presets or Band Tracks and copy them to either the amp's memory or to an SD card with no problem.

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bluesdelux wrote:
Thanks! I haven't ruled it out just yet. I was just wondering, if I did go with the G DEC, would there be anything I couldn't do without having Fuse, such as adding new presets and backing tracks from the web site? Could I download them to my SD card from my computer and load them into the GDEC that way?


You most certainly can just download the presets and backing tracks on your computer. Then just insert you SD card into your reader and drag and drop. Any band tracks that you have downloaded that are in MP3 or wave format will go into the "Audio" folder. Any Midi files will go into the "Midi" folder and any .fuse preset files will go into the "Presets" Folder. Also, there is a new firmware file that you can download (version 1.03). Just stick this into the root directory of the SD card. The next time you turn the G-Dec 3 on with the card already inserted, it will ask you if you want to update the amplifier.

Is I see it, the Fuse software is just a very nice visual interface for controlling the G-Dec 3. I spend most of my time just using the amplifier without Fuse.

Take your time and try out all of the amplifiers Guitar Denter has until you find the one that meets your needs. Oh, and it is common, after buying gear to end up with buyers remorse. You know, you buy the new stratocaster you have been drolling over and then everywhere you look you see some awesome Les Pauls and you think Man I should have bought an LP or visa versa. I have been there. Now I just enjoy what I have to it's fullest. It;s more fun that way :D


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