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What do you think of this idea?
I just like to click on polls. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I would like to use it on Linux 50%  50%  [ 4 ]
I would like to use it on Linux and maybe chip in a buck or two 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I would like to use it on Win/Mac 38%  38%  [ 3 ]
I would like to use it on Win/Mac and maybe chip in a buck or two 13%  13%  [ 1 ]
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Post subject: G-DEC3 on Linux is now partly true.
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:59 am
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Hi People and Peoplettes!

So here's the deal...
I've done some snooping this weekend on how FUSE communicates with the G-DEC3, and studied the data FUSE sends to the amp.
To learn a little about the amp and the coding that is involved in this task,
I chose to implement, what I thought was one of the simplest things to do, to change the current preset to something else.

I created this video (showing G-DEC3 on Linux):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkn7Dv2CApk

Furthermore, I did some other kind of coding last weekend that was more about creating a piece of software that would manage "set-lists" that are non-existent in FUSE. My goal is simply code a FUSE-replacement for Linux.
My real goal is to make it platform independent so that Windows & Mac users could choose to run that program instead of FUSE.

There are two options here:
1. I keep playing with this for my own pleasure when I feel like it and implement only what I feel is necessary.
2. I'll make this into a platform-independent application that tries to implement all the features that the community feels needs to be in it.

So, I have a question to you all - Does this interest you at all?
If so, are you running Linux or something else?
If so, would you consider helping out financially (please have a look http://www.kickstarter.com if you don't know what that is)?

If there is overwhelming support for such a thing, based on what platform people are using I will create a kickstarter-project to raise some bucks for some of the development costs, and, honestly, for some extra motivation, really.

I'll let this thread float around for a while and see what the response is. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have, and also what the Fender guys think of this?

/ J


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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:53 pm
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A crossplatform GPL prg would be nice.

I've tried running Fuse under Wine (Linux Mint 10) but it fails on load looking for Silverlight, ebven though it was installed under Wine before Fuse.

Have no idea how to direct Fuse to "see" the correct location for Silverlight.


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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:33 am
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The program would definitely be free and open source. That's not even up for discussion. :)
However, to "officially" support other platforms than Linux will require a fair bit of extra work. It has been an eye-opener to see the kinds of problems and questions that people have had about FUSE.
FUSE is an application that is supposed to working out of the box by just clicking on the installation program, and after that, easy to use.
Some of the problems have to do with FUSE, some of them have to do with the user (e.g. not knowing how/what to do).
Having a 'computery' background myself, I might have found some things trivial that some not so used to computers have not.
This means that if I would decide to support Win/Mac, I would be putting a lot more time and effort only on the 'packaging' of the software, so that it is dead-easy to get up and running, otherwise it'd defeat its own purpose.

And here comes two problems:
1. For Windows I would need to purchase Microsoft software to be allowed to legally distribute some of the files needed by the application.
2. I don't own a Mac, so I can't really do anything about that, unless I get my hands on one.

So not only would I be spending a great deal of my free time for developing for platforms I don't personally even use (on top of the development of the software itself), I would even be spending money on software and a Mac to be able to develop & test it. And that starts to become very pricey.

Whenever I release the first version of this application (for Linux), I'm also bound by GPL to release the source code. This could obviously make it possible for other people to port it to Windows & Mac. But they should probably be owners of a G-DEC to be able to test it, and it would be their responsibility to do the proper packaging so that it will be easy to use. In that case, there is only hope left that developers that happen to have Win/Mac also have the time and willpower to do it. :)

So all in all, the point was to check whether people are interested, and if they are interested and supportive enough to make the multi-platform thing happen by chipping in.

/ J


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Post subject: Re: G-DEC3 on Linux is now partly true.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:23 am
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Update:

I have started a project site (http://www.sopd.org) for this.
There you can get progress info, give feedback and create tickets for features to take into consideration, etc...

Fender guys: Is it possible to get documentation/source-code on the protocol you are using to communicate with the G-DEC? I only realized after I had started with my work that you too are using 'libusb', which means that it would be very easy to port. :)
The way it is now, I need to reverse-engineer everything.
You have my e-mail address in case you want to help out.

/ J


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Post subject: Re: G-DEC3 on Linux is now partly true.
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:31 am
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I've been under the ice for a good year, but my intention is to proceed with this now.
Hopefully there are other people than myself who need G-DEC 3 support on Linux.
Feel free to check out sopd.org and add tickets for whatever wishes you may have about the software. :)

/ J


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Post subject: Re: G-DEC3 on Linux is now partly true.
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:01 pm
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I don't own a G-DEC yet, (still deciding if I should go for it or the Mustang III) but as a linux user I'd love to see a tool like this (I think the Mustang series got one also).

Actually I'd focus on getting the Linux version done, Windows and Mac are already covered by Fender, so unless Fuse is discontinued for some weird reason I don't see the need to replicate efforts. Another thing would be to code it to be as platform independent as possible

As much as I'd like to contribute, my little student pocket won't allow, although I'm a programmer too (or at least I that's what I pretend :P)


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Post subject: Re: G-DEC3 on Linux is now partly true.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:02 am
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I'm glad to hear that there's almost one more other than me who would see any use for this software. :)

Oh, the best way to contribute is not to donate anything. The best way to contribute is to sign up for the site and add "Tickets" which can be anything from bug-reports to feature requests. :)
The PayPal thing is merely there to see how desperately people would be looking for alternatives to FUSE as well as merely giving me some pressure to produce something in case donations would start dropping in.

When it comes to cross-platform support, it will be Linux in the first place and mobile devices (IPad, Xoom, Mobile phones) as a later goal in one form or another.
The source will go under GPL V2 I believe, so people who'd prefer this over Fuse can port it to Windows / Mac.
When it comes to help in actual development, this will be possible after I have released the first version(s) and published the source. I want to get it to a stage where the design is clear enough.

If you're going with the Mustang series, I must promote 'piorekf' on the forums who had started a similiar project a year back and seems to be fully functional: http://piorekf.org/plug/


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