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Post subject: Classic Fender Sound and more
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:07 am
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I don't know why I'm always looking for things to try, but I have made a discovery.

I found a web site that discussed older techniques and why they worked or didn't work. One of the topics was getting the classic fender sound from the old, Tweed and Blackface, amplifiers. There were pages of how the tone stack works and how the pre-amp and power-amp work together. The bottom line is to set the volume at 6 or higher to get the best performance from the pre-amp section and set the tone stack to: treble 6, mid 3 & bass 2. Because of the way the circuit is constructed, setting too much bass causes muddiness in the upper frequencies and the treble control actually works treble and mid.

I figured if the Gdec really emulated the actual circuit, then it should work. It does. It sounds more "clean Fender" than anything else I've tried. The other discovery is how well it works when the gain is turned up.

If you are looking for a "clean" or bypassed sound, use Blackface 1 and these settings. You will get a wonderfully pure, glassy, Fender sound.

Blackface 1 has Dwane Eddie pegged. Blackface 2 is Dick Dale on his wildest days. But, there is more. At higher gain settings, the sound of the notes is more clear; as in you can turn up to medal levels of gain and still hear the notes, even play chords with more the 2 notes and have them sound right.

The Tweed tone stack is very close to the Blackface circuit, so the technique works with all the Tweed amp selections. Also, the Marshall circuit is a copy of the Tweed Bassman, so....

I'm sure I'm not the first to discover this, but maybe I can get the word out. Try it and see what you think.


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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:03 pm
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I gotta give this a try when I get home next week. Kinda funny how we have an amp with all these great sounds we can get from it, and we're looking for that good ol' clean setting.
I haven't gotten bored yet and still love my G-DEC-30. Now it's been discontinued and I'm wondering if we may see a G-DEC-60 coming in our future (intro at NAAM?).


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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:42 am
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One of the first things I did was to overwrite the first dozen or so factory settings with clean settings. Many are just the AMP models at their default parameters with no effects whatsoever. When I come up with an amp/effects combo that I like, it gets saved farther down the line. You can't have one of these and not make it your own, it's so much more enjoyable that way. 8)


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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:03 pm
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I tweaked the "Happy Strum" patch for a clean sound.

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:07 pm
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I have a GDec 30. You can't get a classic Fender sound out of it. If you ever heard or played any of the tweeds, Blackface or Silverface amps in person, you'll know what I mean. The GDec is a digital solid state practice tool, no more, no less. It's great fun, but it's not capable of doing any"classic" Fender tones.


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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:01 pm
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I've had a Tremolux. I agree; it sounded great. I've played several Twins, both black and silver. They sound great too, but I think the Tremolux sounds better.

That doesn't mean you can't get very close with solid state equipment. I played in a band for more than a year before the others figured out my Cyber-Deluxe wasn't tube driven.

Tubes do have a unique sound and feel. I wouldn't say it was always better. Afterall, the Who, Pantera and Buddy Guy have all ran solid state equipment.

That being said, will the Gdec replace a vintage Fender amp? No. It won't replace a Cyber-Deluxe or HiWatt either. But, you can make a gdec sound very close.


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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:09 pm
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The sound is only as close as interpreted by the listener's own ears. It's that subjective thing again...... and then again, how close is close?


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