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Post subject: Neutral / clean sound for POD
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:44 am
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Is there anyone out there running a Line 6 POD through a G-DEC amp?

If so, what settings are you using to get a good clean / neutral sound for the G-DEC?


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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:33 am
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Ok, that is like running one POD through another POD...seriously demented. But if you must, just go to one of the clean presets, and then clean it up further stripping out any EFX and zeroing out your EQ settings. Basically turning off any and all modeling and shaping elements possible inside G-DEC. You want to turn G-DEC into a colorless, toneless power amp. And make sure you don't overdrive the G-DEC, keep lots of headroom at the input stage. This is the same concept as the Atomic amps which use the POD as a front end.


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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:16 pm
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Thanks for the reply and advice Maruuk.

Seriously demented perhaps...but for me the POD offers much more on the modelling front - more amp/effects configurations, Line 6 supported downloads and online user settings, etc, plus a much more user friendly interface (mainly in the form of good old knobs you just twiddle). In short, the Line 6 POD offers the sort of support that Fender should be emulating so as to make the G-DEC package appeal to everyone and not just buzz-happy 12 year olds.

What I was really looking for in the G-DEC was the backing features to make practising more interesting. I may just use the G-DEC for this feature and the composing element and just run my guitar/POD through my existing 15W practise combo (which blows the G-DEC away in terms of tone).

What truly annoys me about the G-DEC is the hum I get when it's switched on and doing nothing (all volume controls at zero). It's loud enough to be annoying to me anyway and I'm not sure if my unit has a problem in this respect or whether that's just normal for the G-DEC. What do you think?

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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:38 pm
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Yeah, that's not good. That's the power amp stage with some ground short or other. They may let you swap it out for another. They did with me.

The tone presets are in fact buzzy garbage, at the least Koch presets you can download are cleaner and more useable.

You're right on about support--G-DECs need USB and realtime editing off a PC which pretty much every other comparable product has. And don't even talk about new genre-based banks, celebrity contributions, user-community developed banks, or midi player/content support. Zero.

I'm trying to get Brad to at least set up a little server space here for folks to upload their fave midi jam files for G-DEC. Like pulling teeth.

This would all be less necessary if you had a product like the G-DEC Jr with knobs, but a huge onboard genre-segmented database of onboard midi files. That could be easily done in a lousy 128 megs of memory. And get somebody who knows what they're doing to program the preset tones again by genre: roots rock, jazz, country, metal, blues, etc. That way a pl;ayer can just live in the zone they want and ignore all the others. I get sick of having to page through all this useless junk just to find the one tone that doesn't sound like Africanized bees after Elmer Fudd.

SUPPORT SUPPORT SUPPORT. Like Carville had on his wall in huge letters in '92: IT'S THE SUPPORT, STUPID!!!


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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:50 pm
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Thanks for that - we-re on the same wavelength I think.

Can you just clarify please - should my G-DEC be totally silent when all the volume controls are at zero and the power on?

I'm just wondering whether I'm being too picky. The hum is annoying to me but I just need to be sure it's a real problem in terms of what it's supposed to be like in that mode. If so, then I'll return it.


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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:58 pm
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The amp went back today and I got a refund.


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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:50 am
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Any ambient hum at a level annoying to you is unacceptable in any case, whether or not its considered dysfunctional by a service tech. Since mine wasn't a problem and was basically silent, I suspect you had a bad unit.

Quality control issues which reached their zenith with the G-DEC 30 have been noted across the line (the least issues actually with the G-DEC bass). These units are made in China.


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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:40 pm
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could you keep us updated how you like your POD through the GDEC. I am very seriously thinking about doing the same thing..how is the sound? I am dying to know.


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The G-DEC went back to the shop and I got a refund. Sadly, my experience was enough to put me off getting another one.

Shame really - the G-DEC would be a top-notch product if they got the QC together and implemented the kind of things Maruuk suggests above. If so, I'd have a crack at another one. But as it is, I can only look upon the G-DEC as The Product That Nearly Was.


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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:48 am
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Did you have a hum with nothing plugged in? If the hum was when your POD was attached to the Gdec, you could have had a grouning issue between the two devices.


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It was the same with nothing plugged in.


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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:51 pm
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If you have hum with nothing plugged in, the unit is defective.

I think if you had traded for a properly operating unit, you would find you don't need the POD of the front end.

On the other hand, If you want the POD plus playalong capibility, go to a pawn shop and spend $10 on a stereo receiver or small mixing board. Analog boards are poping up very inexpensive as digital takes over. Plug the POD into one input and a mp3/CD/tape player into another and go for it.


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