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Post subject: G Dec 30 or Line 6 Spider Jam?
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:49 am
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I've been toying with this decision for awhile now and can't decide which of the two to purchase. I don't play out, don't have a band, so it's just for me. I currnetly have an old Crate 30 DSP-C.

What do you guys suggest and why? Thanks for the help.


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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:26 pm
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Gee, 3 days, 49 views and no answers. Hmmm?


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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:29 am
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I dont have any experiance with Line 6
I do know that my gdec 30 works great for me


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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:36 am
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firesmokestrats, you probably haven't received many replies because not enough people have tried both units.
I assume you've comprehensively compared the specifications of the two and are still undecided?
It appears to me that they are two completely different animals. With the G-DEC at 30 watts, and the capability of storing custom midi backing tracks on-board, makes it a great portable practice amp.
The Spider Jam, at 75 watts and built-in real audio backings, sounds pretty cool, if somewhat loud for home use. It looks like it would be good for small gigs.
The following is strictly my opinion, I like to make my own midi backing tracks and upload them to the G-DEC, so I don't need to have an audio player hooked up to it all the time. The Spider Jam's backings would get old after a while if I can't upload new ones. I have a Pod XT Live and GuitarPort Online. I'm sure the amp models and fx sound good and if those backing tracks are anything like GPO, I'll bet they sound awesome. The Spider Jam looks like a pretty nice package.
I suppose it would depend on what you need out of your practice amp.
Good luck!


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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:43 am
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I just went through this decision myself. Keep in mind I just started learning the guitar so take my advice for what it's worth. I did alot of online research comparing the Fender G-Dec and the Line 6 Spider Jam and ended up purchasing the Spider Jam. I spent hours at the computer just reading reveiws of the two amps because I did not know anyone personally who had played both. Alot of people complained of buzzing and cheap sounding effects (not my words other peoples) from the G-Dec. I could not find one negative reveiw on the Spider Jam as far as sound quality. So, I got it. It is fun to play with and has great backing tracks and great artist tones already dialed in and it is all customizable. I do think it is a little loud for playing around the house but that is the only downside I have found. But, like i said i'm still kinda new to all this and I have never played on a Fender G-Dec. Maybe I helped a little.


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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:20 pm
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Thanks for all the input. I'm on the fence and have done lots of online research and even played the Gdec at the store. The Line 6 was there, but need to go back and try it. I usually play alone and don't need it too loud although a set of headphones would make the gf happy. Its mostly for practice and goofing off and I don't play very well.... yet.

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:26 pm
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Well we are in the same boat as far as the playing goes :lol: .


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im in the same position yet to purchase! yesterday was given demo in shop of the line6 amp looked good sounded great salesguy also showed me vox valvetronic he recomended the line6 cheper but the vox sounds blew me away in every department


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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:08 pm
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The VOX does not have the built in backing tracks to play over does it?


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I was just playing a little bit and was reminded of one thing that kinda bothers me about my Line 6 Spider jam. It has a little more bass than I would like at just about any setting. I read where other people in other forums mentioned this same thing about the amp. From what research I have done concerning this I have been told that it is due to the speaker being made for a modeling amp. It is made to handle all differnet sounds decently instead being geared towards one main type of sound. :?: I have also been told that gettting it up on a stand instead of letting it sit on the floor would help. Maybe someone who knows more than I do can elaborate on this. The amp sounds great and it's not a big issue at all but just thought I would mention it on here.


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no dont think the vox does


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I was just wondering if you ever made a decision and if so how you liked which one you decided on...........


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Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:49 am
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It has been a while, but I made a similar decision between the Cyber Deluxe, the Vox Valvetronic and the Line 6 Spider. My observations then seem to still be true.

The Line 6 products create great sound, however the other products are more responsive to the guitar and playing style. For example changing guitars, pickup selections or adjusting the guitar volume has little effect on the sound. The Vox and Fender products clean up nicely with small adjustments of the volume control, like a vintage valve amp. The Fender products let you hear changes in pickup selection and changes in picking style.

The Vox products sound great. like Vox, they are meant to be driven. Getting blues and rock sound is easy. Specific amp simulations are available at the turn of a switch.

The Fender products - Cyber and Gdec families - need some reading and learning to get the full capability out of the amp. But, the Fender products are the most responsive to changes in the guitar controls, changes in playing styles, etc. Your technique, good and bad, come through clearly.

If you like the Line 6 sounds, go with the Spider.

If you want more sounds and more responsiveness than the Spider, but still be easy to operate, go with Vox.

If you want something that is more transparent and lets more of your sound through or a limitless number of sounds, go with the Fender products.

The Spider and the Gdec are like comparing apples to oranges. There are amps you can gig with: Fender Cyber Deluxe and Twin, Vox Valvetronic 60 & 120 or the Line 6 Vetta. There are practice amps like the Roland Cube, Fender Gdec and Champ, Pignose, etc. In between there are amps that really don't do either well.

The Spider is a Line 6 attempt to reach down from gigging into the practice amp range. The Gdec 30 is a practice amp trying to reach up. For practice, the Gdec is the hands down winner because it can do so many more things than the Spider. The Gdec and the Roland Cube would be the better comparison. If you want to play out, look for a good, used gigging amp.

Pick the amp that does what you need it to do.


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I'm still undecided and haven't purchased anything yet. Just decided I would stay home and play the old Crate amp instead of driving out to the stores to play with the new amps.

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I have never been completely happy with either the line 6 or gdec amps. They both in my opinion sound very digital. The super or vibro champ and the fender dsp's are the only amp modeling-esque amps i have played that have ever sounded less digital and more authentic. Especially at the prices that the gdecs and line 6 amps are. I think you are in the right direction with the crate amp. In fact, I think at the price crate makes the best bang for your buck practice amp, even if every one of their other amps they make sound like poop


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