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Post subject: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:54 pm
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I have both the Mustang 3 (v2) and just bought the jamman stereo. I had never heard of the G-dec till yesterday so was intrigued! Am I right to assume that what I have is a much better (specs etc) option than buying the g-dec?


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:38 pm
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Dear godfather_77,

Thanks for your inquiry. The Fender® G-DEC® is no longer manufactured, but it was an Amp that had 100 backing tracks, with both presets and Amp models. The Fender® Mustang™ on the other hand has Amp models and presets but no backing tracks directly on the Amp.

If you wanted backing tracks to play on your Mustang you would have to play backing tracks via your computer, MP3 player or in your case your Jamman going through the Aux port on the Amp.

I hope this helps clear up some of the differences between the two Amps. Please feel free to contact us directly at TSL@fender.com if need additional information.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:43 pm
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Yes, the Mustang III (V2)'s top panel Aux input is used for playing Backing Tracks through the Amp.

However, for using the Jamman's Looper function you are best to use the MIII's Rear Panel FX Loop Send/Return jacks. These are Mono Jacks! Only the MIV and MV Mustangs provide Individual (Dual Mono) Channels of FX Send/Return FX Jacks to accommodate a Stereo FX Loop!

From Fender Mustang Support (Direct Link): http://www2.fender.com/support/articles ... mplifiers/
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USING THE EFFECTS LOOP ON THE FENDER® MUSTANG™ III-V AMPLIFIERS

PROBLEM DESCRIPTION
What options do I have when using the effects loop on my Fender® Mustang™ III-V amplifiers?

SOLUTION
The Fender Mustang III-V amps include an effects loop. On the Mustang III (V1 & V2), the effects loop is mono (one send/one return). For the Mustang III, the audio signal is summed when using the effects send/return. When a hardware effect is used, the internal audio signal is summed. This includes any effects running in stereo.

On the Mustang IV and V (V1 & V2), the effects loop is stereo (left & right send/left and right return). When a stereo hardware effect is used, the true stereo signal is carried though the effects loop and through the amp’s output section. If only one channel (left or right) of the effects sends is used, any internal stereo effects will be output through the effects send only on the channel that is being connected. The effects loop on the Mustang IV and V amps is not summed. The result of connecting a mono hardware effect to the stereo effects loop on the Mustang IV or V amps will be that you will lose the opposite channel’s signal content only for any stereo effects currently running internally on the amp. We recommend that stereo hardware effects be used with the Mustang IV and V amp’s effects loop whenever possible.

It is also possible to use an appropriate “Y” adaptor cable to get signal from both left and right effects send outputs on the Mustang IV and V amps. The result here will be two channels of audio depending on how the adaptor cables are connected. But the signal path will be two channels but not in stereo. Please let us know if we can assist further.


Also from Fender Support (Direct Link): http://www2.fender.com/support/articles ... ects-loop/
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FENDER® MUSTANG™ III, IV, V EFFECTS LOOP

PROBLEM DESCRIPTION
Using the Fender® Mustang™ III, IV, V Effects Loop to connect external effects devices to your amplifier.

SOLUTION
The Fender Mustang IV and V amplifiers can accept stereo or mono effects devices at line level. The Fender Mustang III amplifier only accepts mono effects devices as it has a mono Effects Loop. In use with the Mustang IV and V, a mono-in, mono-out effect unit will use one send and one return, and only effect one side of the stereo image when used without appropriate adaptors. "Y" adaptor cables can be used to connect a stereo device into the Mustang III's mono effects loop. "Y" adapter cables can also be used to connect a mono effect to the Effects Loop on the Mustang IV and V amps so that both left and right channels of the Effects Loop will be connected. However, the resulting audio signal be dual monaural and not stereo.

Connect the amp's FX SEND jack(s) to the input(s) on your external effects device and connect the amp's FX RETURN jack(s) to the output(s) on your effects device. Additionally, you can use the Effects Send as a Line Output for recording puposes or a live sound application (Mustang III-V/V1 Series). The Mustang Floor has a mono Effects Loop that is fixed in the "pre amlifier" position.


Also from Fender Support (Direct Link): http://www2.fender.com/support/articles ... mplifiers/
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LOOPER PEDAL CONFIGURATION ON FENDER® MUSTANG™ III-V (V.2) AMPLIFIERS

PROBLEM DESCRIPTION
How can I configure the effects loop on my Fender® Mustang™ III-V (V.2) to match the function the Fender Mustang III-V (V.1)?

SOLUTION
The Fender Mustang III-V (V2) amplifiers Effects Loop can be configured in several ways. If your Mustang III-V (V2) shipped with or is currently loaded with firmware version 2.0, the effects loop is fixed in the "pre amp" position. As of firmware version 2.1 and later, the effects loop is placed in the "post amp" position, and you are now able to switch the "Fx Loop Position" to either "Normal" or Looper Pedal" under the Utilities menu on your Fender Mustang III/IV/V (V.2).

This is desirable in particular for those who wish to use Looper pedals with the Fender Mustang III-V (V1) series amps where the effects loop is fixed in the "post amp" position. Please see the "Effects Loop Diagram" PDF via the Related Downloads section in this article.


If you are using multiple Presets in your Mustang that are configured with different Cabinet Simulations in the Advanced deep Page 2 Amp menu (as most people do!), make sure you read the FX Loop Block Diagram PDF from Fender's Mustang support page regarding the configuration of the FX Loop setting in the Mustang's UTIL Menu! The direct link to the Mustang™ III-V (V.2) Effects Loop Diagram PDF is: http://support.fender.com/manuals/guita ... tsLoop.pdf

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:52 am
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Thank you! So to be clear I would need to buy a Y adapter patch cord to connect the Jamman to my M3? But from what I have seen the Y split is only on one end and the other end is a single male plug. Would the Y split go into the M# and the single go into the Jamman if so which socket? Sorry for the silly question!


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:48 am
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As I do not have the Jamman unit, I am not familiar with what physical jack connections nor any internal software/firmware routing configuration options may provide. If it is simply hard wired with dual mono signal paths the question becomes in what scensrio would the Jamman Looper be used where both chsnnels wouldmbe needed? The MIII only has a Mono FX Loop Send/Return. The vast majority of guitars are single channel. If you are not using other outboard stereo FX (Chorus, Reverb, Delay, etc.) where would the second channel of the Jamman ) Looper come into Play regarding the MIII's single channel FX I/O? With an MIV or MV there are dedicated dual mono FX I/Os.

Typically, to get both channels of a dual channel unit to feed into the Mustang you would need to combine both those channels. As depicted on the Fender support info, a "Y" cable is a common method. Often two channels (strips) of a mixing console are use to accomplish the same with their output patched to a single Send from the console to the Mustang. This all regards the FX I/O on the MIII. The Aux input jack is Stereo.

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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:52 am
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I have a gdec3 15 and a Mustang 3.....how would or can I plug that in to my Mustang 3 so I can get easy access to backing tracks?

Also, godfather77, please tell my about Jamman. I love easy, and if I can plug Jamman into my Must3 and have instant backing tracks, then that's what I want!!!! But go slow, I aint no tech guy what so ever!!! I need pictures and diagrams, big crayons, etc.


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Post subject: Re: Mustang 3 + Digitech Jamman stereo = kickass Gdec?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:23 pm
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Oh, as a follow up. I now have two Jamman loopers and they are great ! I was playing my LP (with P 90's) thru my Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb and tape delay pedal....sounded soooo wonderful...clicked on the looper and perfect jam music. Beautiful. Great way to start a Monday morning.


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