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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:10 pm
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Here it is.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:30 pm
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Basically all it is, there are five jacks horizontal toward the right side of the back. Two #21's are for 2 ohms, Two #22's are for 4 ohms, and One #23 is for a single 8ohm cab. It's a pretty simple way of powering out to cab loads. For my SVT-212AV 4 ohm cab, I just plug into a #22, 4 ohm jack. And it's done. Being a tube head, it must have a load plugged into it.Image

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:32 pm
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Pretty cool. 8) AMS has that amp listed for sale on their site, and they actually had the back side photo of it, too. It's strange it has one 8 ohm jack, but two 4 ohm jacks, but I guess you can plug an 8 ohm cab into one of the 4 ohm jacks, from what it said? I see it has a slave out, which is pretty old school, where you'd run a bunch of them together. I remember seeing a Marshall tube slave amp in a shop many moons ago. It was something close to 300 watts, and they were selling it as a bass amp. They probably didn't really know what it was.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:21 pm
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For two 8 ohm cabs, you would plug into one 4 ohm jack in the head, then plug into the first 8 ohm, then out of the first cab, then plug into the second cab. Marshall did at one time have a higher watts bass amp. 300-400 Watts, something like that. There was a used V-4B at Sam Ash when I was there the other day to turn in the Bassman. I thought about buying that one for about three seconds. I don't trust a used tube amp for sale. There are some players that don't know what they're doing with a tube amp.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:10 pm
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Yeah, sometimes when you buy used, you might be buying other people's problems, especially with electronics like that. It can be a risk, that's why 99% of the time, I'll get something new, unless it's something unique, that's no longer made, and a good deal not to pass up.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:43 am
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PaulLF wrote:
Yeah, sometimes when you buy used, you might be buying other people's problems, especially with electronics like that. It can be a risk, that's why 99% of the time, I'll get something new, unless it's something unique, that's no longer made, and a good deal not to pass up.


Agreeded. The tube amp can be run with more heavy use on them. I don't need to be changing out tubes in first 4-6 months I have it.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:35 pm
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So have you had a chance to crank it up and put it through it's paces?

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:14 pm
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So have you had a chance to crank it up and put it through it's paces?


No, not yet. But just on my basic settings I did on it, I could hear, AND feel the room shaking a bit. Right now it's set at just below 1/4 of the way up. Here's a pic I found of the back panel. Image

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:38 am
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I wonder how much different it is compared to the original ones? When did they start having DI outs on bass amps? I think at least the by the late 80's, perhaps. I know they've had your 1/4" line out and slave jacks, which were pretty much the same thing, weren't they?

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:41 am
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PaulLF wrote:
I wonder how much different it is compared to the original ones? When did they start having DI outs on bass amps? I think at least the by the late 80's, perhaps. I know they've had your 1/4" line out and slave jacks, which were pretty much the same thing, weren't they?


Yeah,,,,,,,,,, pretty much. The DI out jack is a better, safer connection. 1/4" Jack prongs were, and are to easy to be shaped off into the head's input jack. Just the entire DI design has better settings to it.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:00 pm
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Those Speakon jacks aren't too bad, especially if they have the ones where you can use both that, and 1/4" jacks. At first, I was kind of annoyed that the Orange had the Speakon only inputs, mainly because of the extra cost of the cables, but once I got them and used them, I realized how they work, and it's not really a bad idea. They do stay put, and feel pretty secure. I did get a Speakon to 1/4" cable, so I can use the Orange with older cabs, which I'll be doing when I finally get to Boston and hook up into that Kustom 3 x 15" cab, which I'm assuming is as old, or older than I am. I don't suppose you'd remember roughly what the power handling in those cabs are, do you? I think the biggest head they might have made for that time period was probably 250 watts, or the one that's the Kustom 500. From what I read, they did the peak rating and the RMS was half of that. I don't even know what model head they even have there, other than I've seen a partial glimpse of it in a video clip and it's very tall and black. That guy has an insane amount of gear crammed in there.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:12 pm
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I'd use Speakon's whenever I could. Especially with a tube head where the connection of the load is so Important. On both of the Ampeg's connections I'm using now, neither one uses Speakon. So, it's 1/4" for everyone. :roll: The Kustom 250 was a loud working amp back then. I honestly didn't do any 500's. The 250's were all over the place.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:40 am
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I do believe the 250 came out with when the 500 did, from what I remember from an old catalog scan.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:58 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
I do believe the 250 came out with when the 500 did, from what I remember from an old catalog scan.


Some time around there, I really don't remember.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Bassman 500 - sweet!
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:22 pm
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It's here: http://www.vintagekustom.com/frame.html The earlier models were 100, 200, and 400. These were 150, 250, and 500. So I guess they jacked the power from 50 to 100 watts for the models. I see the 15" speakers are listed as J.B. Lansing models. Weren't you saying those were pretty good speakers?

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