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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:32 pm
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linnin wrote:
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Stanley Clarke came along later and impressed me.


+1!

For those unfamiliar with Mr. Clarke, check out "Rock And Roll Jelly" on Y/T (with Jeff Beck as accompaniment on guitar). A real treat.

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Plus SC plays a damn mean upright bass. The man just totally smokes, and yes he has great tone. Mud Bucket? Not a chance.


I hope to own an original Alembic bass one day. Besides having great necks, their sound was so rich throughout the bass spectrum. Jack Casady had Alembic electronics in his hollow body. The Dead and Airplane were adopters of some of the early genius tech that was emerging at that time.

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:05 am
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I can slap a little but I never seem to. I just never find a time when I feel it would be approriate. I dunno, maybe it has to be spontaneous and unexpected and I should go Nike and "just do it" once in a while.

I agree with quite a bit of what's been said on this thread so far. Hartke back in the day made some serious gear but they turned "Behringer" on us a long time ago with the introduction of the Transporter series. GK has never impressed me much. They seem thin to my ears. I always wanted to try one of those alien glowing green Trace Elliot rigs but never had the opportunity. Ampeg is a company that makes bass gear that can sound fairly good or really really horrible depending on how you adjust the settings. Dialing in your tone requires an ear that many bassists appear to be in want of. I agree that many bassists appear to be trying to hide a lack of skill behind a wall of thick mud. A good quality DI box (as opposed to a cheap POS DI box) can make all the difference.

I played an SWR rig for the first time in, oh I dunno, maybe 1985 or 1986 and I immediately made it my mission in life to aquire one. Mission accomplished and never looked back. I know there are SWR haters out there and that's wonderful IMO. The fewer bassists out there with great tone the better those few of us who have it appear by comparison.

Personally I kinda like the bucket of mud sound ... in other local bands that is, not on my iPod. When they have that muddy sound it's like we (my band) just jumped up 3 skill levels. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:03 pm
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I think there are basically two kinds of electric bass slappers ...the one's that do a good deal of hammering(slap, hammer, slap: Bill Dickens, Victor Wooten), and the guys that are just really fast with their right hand thumb(Larry Graham, Louis Johnson).

Then there are guys like Abe Laboriel, Stanley, and Chuck Rainey that can do it all.


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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:23 pm
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:50 am
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Benny Hill wrote:
I think there are basically two kinds of electric bass slappers ...the one's that do a good deal of hammering(slap, hammer, slap: Bill Dickens, Victor Wooten), and the guys that are just really fast with their right hand thumb(Larry Graham, Louis Johnson).

Then there are guys like Abe Laboriel, Stanley, and Chuck Rainey that can do it all.


And let's not forget Marcus Miller,.....I saw him up close at a clinic last fall & all I can say is Holy Crap!!
This was the look on the crowds faces as Marcus did his thing...... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:20 am
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James Coderre wrote:
Benny Hill wrote:
I think there are basically two kinds of electric bass slappers ...the one's that do a good deal of hammering(slap, hammer, slap: Bill Dickens, Victor Wooten), and the guys that are just really fast with their right hand thumb(Larry Graham, Louis Johnson).

Then there are guys like Abe Laboriel, Stanley, and Chuck Rainey that can do it all.


And let's not forget Marcus Miller,.....I saw him up close at a clinic last fall & all I can say is Holy Crap!!
This was the look on the crowds faces as Marcus did his thing...... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


+ 1 Zillion! Agreed James. On page 2 I don't mention Marcus by name but say this -> "Arguably one of the very best bass players alive today. No Mud Here. In fact this is some of the very best bass tone I have ever heard." And post a couple of links to some of his live work. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:19 pm
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Wow, that was weird, in my last comment I was responding to something Linnin said and now that response is on the 3rd page after other comments that I didn't see previously. Is the Delysid coming back to haunt me? It's been 20 years, but you never know. :P

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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:01 am
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Wow, that was weird, in my last comment I was responding to something Linnin said and now that response is on the 3rd page after other comments that I didn't see previously. Is the Delysid coming back to haunt me? It's been 20 years, but you never know. :P


internet latency :) musicians never do drugs :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:19 pm
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True, musicians just have milk and cookies and abstain from the sins of the flesh, too. :P

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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:31 pm
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True, musicians just have milk and cookies and abstain from the sins of the flesh, too. :P


See? Just ask Brother Dave.

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:34 pm
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linnin wrote:
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True, musicians just have milk and cookies and abstain from the sins of the flesh, too. :P


See? Just ask Brother Dave.


Ayup.

Celibacy and sobriety are their own rewards.

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:49 pm
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linnin wrote:
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True, musicians just have milk and cookies and abstain from the sins of the flesh, too. :P


See? Just ask Brother Dave.


Is that where the "Brother" comes from, some sort of monk?

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Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:33 pm
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CPL wrote:
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True, musicians just have milk and cookies and abstain from the sins of the flesh, too. :P


See? Just ask Brother Dave.


Is that where the "Brother" comes from, some sort of monk?


Not a monk, but just like myself, a Christian. From that point on we are all quite different, yet God loves us just the same. Amazing!

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Post subject: Re: Good Tone Vs The Mud Bucket
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:58 pm
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Don't tell that to hardcore Atheists, or they'll start hollering and frothing at the mouths. :P They get quite uppity when you mention the "G" word. I've noticed this quite frequently on the internet. Then again, I've noticed a lot of hostility online and general $@!&#*% behavior, because it gives people an anonymous voice. Just go to YouTube and read the comments. :roll:

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The nickname origin is from a previous career. It is not related to anything religious. I find I am better off staying out of any discussions regarding politics or religion on the internet. Somehow this thread went off the tracks.

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