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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:17 pm
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Yeah, probably at least throughout the 2000's and 2010's, maybe even the 90's, or started during that time. I remember Korea used to be the lower price model manufacturer, but now they are where Japan was in the 80's. A lot of those were made by Samick, and then there's Cort, which also has manufacturers in Indonesia and China. Those two did a lot of manufacturing for other brands like Epiphone, Ibanez, and Squier. Probably still do, although I think Samick's thing these days is pianos, more than guitars.

Sounds like a nice amp. I didn't realize you changed out the badge on it.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:04 am
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I'm very satisfied with the quality of the Indonesian manufacturing of both the Epi EB-0, and the Fender Rumble 100. The only real problem I had with a Fender amp, was the Bassman 500 head. And I believe it wouldn't have mattered where it was manufactured, it was a design flaw.

I can see how you have been using the Rumble 350 of yours for eight years. The 2X10 combo is a fine setup. The best of the Marshall MB Series I had, was the MB210 Combo. I do like the 2X10 setup. The Rumble 500 though, is getting a bit high in price though, at $600. Buckeroos.

The Rumble 100 seems to getting a bit popular from what I've been seeing. I had the grill off of the front of mine, when I changed out the Fender Amp Badge. I wanted to see what I was mounting the third badge screw into, since I had too add a third screw for the Blackface Badge. The Badge that is standard on the Rumbles uses two screws. It's a very clean, well done mounting of the 12", and the two ports as well. Everything looks fit into place well, with no rough cuts, or edges. There was nothing to hide in the quality of it. I also like the 100 not using a HF horn, or tweeter. Just a really nice combo amp, that my King of the Mountain, "Electric Lady" EB-0 sounds great through. What else can I ask for. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:38 pm
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I remember that issue with the Bassman 500 head you had, or maybe even two of them you did. It was something to do with one of the channels.

Yeah, today is the day that it's been 8 years I got it. I actually did at a Guitar Center in Warwick, RI. Come to think of it, that was the last time I even been in there. Time flies, I suppose. The Rumble 500 is a nice combo, which I almost got, as well. Of course, the price hike thing happened with that, at the time, and you know how that goes. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:37 pm
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Wow, eight years today on your Rumble. I have a bit of a problem of Fender pricing $600. for the Rumble 500.
There was one Bassman 500 head that had the problem with the Overdrive Channel, at power up. There were a few more from the same series that were returned for it also.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:25 am
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I remember that with the overdrive channel. Other than that, it was a good amp, wasn't it? I know what you mean with the price of the Rumble 500. When it was $100 cheaper, I was going to seriously jump on it, and make some extra cash, but they jacked the price, and the person that was going to buy the Orange at the time backed out. It doesn't matter now, since I still came out ahead, eventually. Still, that's not that bad of a price for that combo, although if I had the money to spend, that Bassman 800 is the same price, and I already have the cab. If I didn't have any cabs, or anything else, and had the $600 (who gives a crap about the penny,) then I'd probably jump on the Rumble 500, with the possibility of extension cabs in the future, if necessary. Unless you buy something used, you're not going to get a head and cab for $600 new. Not for 500 watts, maybe 200 or 300 watts you can. Used you can, though. Very easily. Remember that Kustom 400 watt rig with a 2 x 15" cab for $300? Unless that thing is on the verge of frying, that's one hell of a deal, especially if you don't mind the weight of that, since there's no Class D, or any of that there.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:45 pm
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I think Fender has dropped the Bassman 500 head. It's no longer listed in the Bassman products section, and hasn't been for a week or two now. I like the Bassman heads. The old style tube heads, but the Rumble 800HD is a very logical progression for Fender heads.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:55 pm
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You think they did? It wouldn't surprise me, but I did check AMS right after I read your post, and at the moment, they still have it fully in stock, and listed at the regular price for it. Of course, that doesn't mean anything, since shops aren't lined up with what the companies decide to do, since there is stock of stuff already made, but that's usually my go to reference when something is going to be out. AMS will usually have it on clearance, although they have done that with stuff that is still being made, but they decide not to carry anymore. I guess time will tell on that one. Was that amp a huge seller in the first place, or the Bassman 800, for that matter? Did you ever notice that at all, being at Talkbass, and all of that?

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:52 pm
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Bassman heads are hot, and cold on TB. Rumbles are about the name of the game there. The Bassman 800 is still showing on the Fender site. The Bassman 500 was good, but I think the Bassman 800 took it's place quickly.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:29 pm
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Yeah, I looked on the Fender site, after I read your post, too. You know, the same thing did happen with the Rumble 500 head, remember? Pretty much right after the Rumble 800 head came out, it was gone, but they kept the Rumble 500 combo. Hey, I just thought of an idea for a combo, but I don't know if it would even be feasible with all of the competition, even with Fender's own stuff. What if they took the Bassman 500 head and just made it into a combo amp, with whatever speaker configurations? When you actually think about it, though, do any of the combos out now even have a tube preamp section like that head, and the Bassman 800 have? I don't even think there are any on the market now. I mean they might have all of the computer stuff, but I don't think a tube preamp.

I can't think of any brand that has that, offhand. Ampeg doesn't, I don't think Gallien Krueger (although, they were mostly solid state all the way, until the Fusion thing) does, either. MarkBass might, but I'd have to look. I'm not widely familiar with them. Of course, there's a ton of other brands, too. But still, imagine if Fender had a Bassman 500 combo, with that tube preamp section, and they could also expand on that. I think there are some possibilities there.

I just remembered Fender did have the Bassman TV combos around 10 years ago or so, but these would be a little different than that, I'd think. https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifi ... -combo-amp I think they could take something like the Rumble 500 combo, but incorporate the Bassman 500 head into it, and then take it from there.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:16 pm
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I would quit playing around, and make a 2X12 combo, or cab and get it over with.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:07 pm
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A Bassman 500 combo with a 2 x 12" configuration would be pretty sweet, I think. You could also do a 1 x 15" for an old school combo vibe, or really go out there and do a 4 x 10" configuration, which I know is on the big side, but not much more than a 2 x 12" would be, and there has been 4 x 10" combos in the past. I'm not really mentioning 2 x 10" configurations, even though it would be 95% likely what they'd do, more than anything. That seems to be the go to for anything 350 watts or over, for some reason.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:26 am
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PaulLF wrote:
A Bassman 500 combo with a 2 x 12" configuration would be pretty sweet, I think. You could also do a 1 x 15" for an old school combo vibe, or really go out there and do a 4 x 10" configuration, which I know is on the big side, but not much more than a 2 x 12" would be, and there has been 4 x 10" combos in the past. I'm not really mentioning 2 x 10" configurations, even though it would be 95% likely what they'd do, more than anything. That seems to be the go to for anything 350 watts or over, for some reason.



I really enjoy my Bassman 500 w/115 cab, along with my Rumble 500 combo, and think it's the sweet spot in the Bassman line. But I feel "duty bound" to warn prospective buyers that the Bassman 800 can output up to 500 watts continuous into an 8 ohm load! Anything less than a 410 in that situation could have a problem with that!! That's why many in the Bassman and Rumble Clubs hope for a lightweight 212 cab with (at least) 500W cont./1000W prog. ratings, at the Winter NAMM this month.

The current 210s are, obviously, good for more than their 350W cont. rating, since they are running up to 400W inside the Stage 800 and being promoted for the other 400W as cabs. Luckily, the Rumble 800 HD is "just" 400W at 8 ohms, also, so that fits like the Stage 800.

But, 500W at 8 ohms from the Bassman 800 could be too much for the 210! And, their 39 lb. weight is nudging the high side for many of us "grumpy old f:xrts". Thus, the wish for a very lightweight 212 cab, nevermind the extra amp weight for a combo. Personally, I'm OK with Bassman heads only, with all the bells & whistles & tubes, and Rumbles for combos.

At least one Bassman Club member suggested a smaller, more compact Bassman 500 head, with tube preamp, and no doubt many others would like that, too. If the current retro-looking 500 is discontinued, then a more modern, compact Bassman head could be a good move!
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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:07 pm
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With the settings on the R100c, it has a superior punch similar to a Kustom with 2X15 cans. Beautiful bass tones.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:05 pm
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A Bassman 500 combo with a 2 x 12" configuration would be pretty sweet, I think. You could also do a 1 x 15" for an old school combo vibe, or really go out there and do a 4 x 10" configuration, which I know is on the big side, but not much more than a 2 x 12" would be, and there has been 4 x 10" combos in the past. I'm not really mentioning 2 x 10" configurations, even though it would be 95% likely what they'd do, more than anything. That seems to be the go to for anything 350 watts or over, for some reason.



I really enjoy my Bassman 500 w/115 cab, along with my Rumble 500 combo, and think it's the sweet spot in the Bassman line. But I feel "duty bound" to warn prospective buyers that the Bassman 800 can output up to 500 watts continuous into an 8 ohm load! Anything less than a 410 in that situation could have a problem with that!! That's why many in the Bassman and Rumble Clubs hope for a lightweight 212 cab with (at least) 500W cont./1000W prog. ratings, at the Winter NAMM this month.

The current 210s are, obviously, good for more than their 350W cont. rating, since they are running up to 400W inside the Stage 800 and being promoted for the other 400W as cabs. Luckily, the Rumble 800 HD is "just" 400W at 8 ohms, also, so that fits like the Stage 800.

But, 500W at 8 ohms from the Bassman 800 could be too much for the 210! And, their 39 lb. weight is nudging the high side for many of us "grumpy old f:xrts". Thus, the wish for a very lightweight 212 cab, nevermind the extra amp weight for a combo. Personally, I'm OK with Bassman heads only, with all the bells & whistles & tubes, and Rumbles for combos.

At least one Bassman Club member suggested a smaller, more compact Bassman 500 head, with tube preamp, and no doubt many others would like that, too. If the current retro-looking 500 is discontinued, then a more modern, compact Bassman head could be a good move!
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A 2 x 12" cab would certainly be a nice addition, either with a cab, in a combo, or both. I guess time will tell what Fender is going to do, if anything.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Rumble 100
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:06 pm
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With the settings on the R100c, it has a superior punch similar to a Kustom with 2X15 cans. Beautiful bass tones.


That's some serious tones there, then. 8)

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