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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:27 pm
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Yeah, I've found those short scale necks are like that. 8)


So you have really gone over for the short scales? If so, that's great you've found a bass that you play well. Sometimes it isn't easy to pick out a type go bass. The same thing can be said about heads, and cabs as well. A bit ironic that you, and I have hopefully got to a satisfactory amp combination, at about the same time.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:50 pm
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Well, I'm probably fully on the short scale, mainly because of getting the violin bass, and I find them a lot easier to use sitting in a small space like my office. I noticed when I actually had the Jazz in here, I had to reach more to go up the neck, and it was a little awkward. Although, when I play it standing up, not so much at all, because I can hang it lower with the strap. I really want to get the Peavey Zodiac back in action to see how that does. That has a nice feeling neck on it, which I like even more than the Jazz, as far as long scale basses go. I suppose I could condition myself to go back to long scale full time, but then that might mean giving up the violin bass, because of the neck differences. I don't know, I guess play it by ear.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:37 pm
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Yeah,..... there's a 3-4 inch difference to work with.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:22 pm
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That's true. The one disadvantage of short scales is trying to find the strings, since there isn't a hell of a lot of selection for that size, like there is long scale.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:21 pm
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That's true. The one disadvantage of short scales is trying to find the strings, since there isn't a hell of a lot of selection for that size, like there is long scale.


That's always been a down side of the short scale basses. There were a few more stocked at some shops in the late 60's / early 70's, under the Gibson name strings.

Like may have mentioned before, I get my short ETB92S, and medium ETB92M,Nylons scales from GC.com. SA stocks the long ETB92 Nylon scales. Other than that, I don't look around much at other strings since I only play the Nylons on everything.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:14 am
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I remember some years back, Gibson still offered bass strings. All they have are guitar ones, these days. I think we were talking about that a long time ago, with what they use for their basses these days. I think you might have said something about Cleartone strings. I'm not sure if it was you, or I read that elsewhere. I wonder if there still is Cleartone strings? I haven't seen them being offered on AMS anymore, but AMS does stuff like that. They'll drop products, even if they are still being made. I've noticed they reduced their selection of bass strings the last time I looked.

I imagine you did have more offering for short scale strings back in the day, because they certainly had more short scale basses back then, when you think about all of the hollow body ones, and all of that. Most of those were short scale. Fender was probably one of the first ones to put out a long scale bass, weren't they? Then of course, the copies of it to follow.

You want to know something kind of ironic with all of this? I can't find the long scale version of the size of Dunlop flats I have for the Ibanez bass. Seriously, unless I buy them from Dunlop themselves, but they charge full list and shipping for them there (no usual discounts like everywhere else does,) and they'd be around $60 for a set of those! There's no friggin' way I'm going to pay double for a set of flats! I know there are a few brands that are that expensive, but that's them in the first place. I did find one place that had them called Pitbull Audio, which has an eBay account, as well, and I think based in California, but other than that, no dice.

They do have them in a heavier gauge, like at Guitar Center, but I'm afraid to try that, because I don't want a repeat of what happened the last time I had heavy flats on the Peavey, which is the bass I want to get them for. AMS does have the Ernie Ball Cobalt Slinky Flats in a light gauge, so I might has well try those. It's strange that AMS only offer the Dunlops in short and medium scale, though.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:05 pm
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For a while then, they were Cleartone strings. Gibson had a Cleartone strings card included with the bass. Some what the way some companies had D'Addario strings cards included.

There were a lot of short scales back then. If I remember correctly, the Mosrite Ventures Bass was a short scale also. Iron Butterfly endorsed Mosrite, until just after the Ball album came out.
When they released the Metamorphosis album in about summer late 1970, a third group making up Iron Butterfly, and goodbye Mosrite, and Vox Super Beatles. That was about the time the Super Beatle was on a downward spiral for the masters. Even though they peaked at 240 Watts.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:45 am
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It looks like Cleartone is still around. They seem to only have long scale bass strings, so I don't know what they did with the short scale Gibsons at the time. Maybe they were made special for them, or something? Anyway, I just went ahead and contacted their customer support and asked them. We'll see if they respond, or not. I doubt it's some classified information, since people do have to change their strings eventually, and maybe they'll want to use the kind that came equipped on the bass. That does happen from time to time.

The Mosrites were short scale? I thought they were long scale, but then again they made so many copies of that brand that they probably had them in all neck sizes. It's been probably copied as much as Fenders, and Hofner violin basses, even up until this day. I think the daughter of Semie Moseley was making those guitars again, at least a few years ago I saw something about it.

That Super Beatle was certainly in most of those 60's movies I have seen with the bands in them. Was that like a popular amp at the time in the US?

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:04 pm
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I thought the Mosrite Ventures Bass was a short scale. Lee isn't around anymore, so I can't just ask him.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:47 pm
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I do believe the SB has made a big difference going through the HD115. At least for the sound I want to get. Today iced the cake, so to speak with playing the GL Jazz.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:13 am
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Mr. Nylon wrote:
I thought the Mosrite Ventures Bass was a short scale. Lee isn't around anymore, so I can't just ask him.


I looked and those did, at least. Maybe some of the later copies of Mosrites might have had a long scale here and there in them, I'm not sure. They weren't the original ones, anyhow.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:46 am
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I do believe the SB has made a big difference going through the HD115. At least for the sound I want to get. Today iced the cake, so to speak with playing the GL Jazz.


It's interesting that you really have a combination of new tech (well, not exactly new, since Hartke came out in the 80's,) and vintage tech with the tubes. Then again, they did experimenting a lot with materials in the 60's, as well. Ovation guitars got started in the 60's, with it's synthetic material for the body, instead of wood, and all sorts of things with plastics, and all of that. It wouldn't have seemed too far fetched to have aluminum speakers in the 60's, would it had?

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:20 pm
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I can pretty much be safe by saying, there would've been many players back then that wouldn't have even accepted the concept of the Aluminum / paper design. Just like having an 800 Watt amp head that weighs in at 8 pounds, or so.

It's like me with a SB. I never lost the liking of the sounds from a tube head, with a bit of power in it. I know I could've been fine with the 100T, but there's something I liked about the other SB's I had in the past. This one is no different than them. When this SB powers up, it really does its thing.

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Post subject: Re: Super Bassman Arena Monster
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:30 pm
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Even though they are both are Fender amps, I'm sure there is probably some differences between the Super Bassman and 100T that effect the sound of them, besides the power each have. You could have manage with the 100T, like you said, but you might not have liked it has much sonically as you do the Super Bassman. Then you also put the Hartke cab into the mix, and you found a nice combination for your overall bass sound. You may have finally found something that works well for you, I think. Of course, that can be subject to change, like anything else, but at least it's working good right now. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:57 pm
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I really can't see much changing. No cash, but I do have like you said, the sound I've been seeking for a long time. You may also be right on about the differences sonically between the 100T, and the SB. Their makeup, is very similar, but the SB can get ridiculously LOUD! To me, it doesn't get any better than this. Image

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