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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:48 pm
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I know what you mean. Unless you're gigging in a decent size place, or playing with a hard hitting drummer, you won't be using that much horsepower, but I guess it's hard to give that up when you have it, because there's always the "what if?" factor going on. I suppose it's also fun to know that you do have that kind of power, even if you don't need it, and it's the concept of it being there. That's why it was hard for me with the Orange head, with that 1000 watts. I never had that kind of amp in my life, and I barely had those gain and master knobs turned up, because of what it was packing, but I also didn't want to give that up even though I didn't really gel with the overall tonality of that thing. I think the Ampeg PF-800 was a good substitute for it, although I will admit the Fender would have been better, but it wasn't out yet. The truth is, I probably could have even gotten away with something like even the HA2500 head you had, but there's that "what if?" thing going on again. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:08 pm
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Image I knew I needed the extra power!!! It's true about getting up on an amps power. I don't need any more than the HD75. You on the other hand, may need a decent powered rig at sometime.

I just got so used to being around the monster stuff, it was like it was what I was supposed to be using myself. The HD75 sounds better to me every time I play it. I played today for just over an hour, and everything I played sounded super.

One of these days, I may even play it in a bigger room in the house. It may take a while though, cause' I have it placed just where I want it to be, to the micron. I think that was one reason I was ok as a head Roadie. I was a perfectionist almost to a fault. I drove everyone crazy, and they openly joked about it. But I think the guys realized why things worked as well as they did, because of it.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:32 pm
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Well, the cool thing about the Ampeg (and I suppose the Fender variant,) because of it's size and weight, it doesn't take up much space at all, and you can even run it without being hooked up to a cab. The cab is really the thing that's even remotely big, but that's because it's a 4 x 10" cab. I'm sure something like a 1 x 12" or even a 1 x 10" would be obviously a lot smaller. Of course with those, you have to factor in the wattage they can handle. I think I could pretty much have that anywhere and it would work out fine.

You were certainly good at your job, that's for certain. You think you get that proficiency from being in the military?

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:55 am
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You're right. I know the ratings on cabs with heads, have limited my options in the past. This should work out ok. Nope. The head is over powered for that cab. I pay more attention to that then some do. I've heard players in music stores comment that it doesn't matter what head, and cab goes with together. I just shake my head, and walk away. That's one thing I like about using a Combo. It is what it is. The ohms, and the watts are what it is. The only two combos I ran a cab from, were the Markbass Mini CMD121P, and the Marshall MB210. I'm glad the HD75 doesn't have that option, so I'm not tempted to add a cab to it.

No, I had that mind set before I went into the service. I was a Roadie before I got drafted. I went back to it after getting out of the Army.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:47 pm
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Yeah, you should pay some attention to what heads and cabs are doing with each other, otherwise you'll wind up potentially frying your speaker, if you push it to hard. Then again, I suppose you could always swap it out for a speaker that handles more power, but then that's an extra expense, especially a speaker of suitable wattage. Combos do have that advantage where you don't have to worry about that, but there's also the downside to them, as well. I guess it comes down to what works best for you, when you weigh out the pros and cons.

How long were you a roadie before you got drafted?

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:36 pm
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Just under two years. I was hoping they weren't going to call up any more. That didn't pan out too well.

True, Combos are somewhat more of a selective amp configuration. Yeah, I know what you're saying about the pros, and cons of the Half Stacks, and the Combos. The Combo has more pros for me, than cons. It is ironic like you stated before about how I had the bigger powerful heads, and cabs, and now I'm down to 75 watts in a 1X12 Combo.

The HD75 is a GREAT all around Combo. The 7 band EQ is so convenient to work with. Today, I did a slight reset on it. With my lousy hearing, I have good, and bad days. Today was a good day, and I noticed a tone slightly off very slightly. One setting did it. Simple things, for a simple mind. This HyDrive 12" is GREAT too!

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:48 pm
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Yeah, I guess that was just bad luck with that, although it could have been worse. When did they even stop drafting people to go over there? I know US pulled out of there in 1973, and Saigon fell in 1975, so I imagine things had to deescalate at some point. I know there was a halt on bombing runs at one point, as well.

I suppose each type of amp works best for what particular situation requires for it, although I think you can get away with a combo for pretty much anything, depending on the power, and maybe the option to add additional cabs, if need be. I like the stack option, because I like the amp head, but if it were inside a combo shell (there are some amp companies, like Genz Benz, that did that) that you can take out and use elsewhere, that would be equally as fine. I also like to have relatively compact cabs, so it's kind of like having a combo amp, anyway. I'm not exactly lugging around an 8 x 10" or 2 x 15" cab, as cool as they may be. That's realistically too much for me to handle at this current time, because I really don't have the means to even move that stuff, and really even store it.

Realistically speaking, the 4 x 10" cab is probably the biggest thing I can deal with, and it's not really much bigger than most combos, and in fact, there are combos that have a 4 x 10" speaker configuration. Gallien Kruger has one coming out with I think 800 watts. I read something yesterday about it.

Are there a lot of different sonic variable in your rehearsal room to where there a huge difference where you have it set up?

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:13 am
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Hartke at one time had some 4X10 combos that weren't too bad. My Marshall MB4210 Combo was a 110 pound monster, but it sounded fine. The MDF really added weight to it. Marshall never understood the meaning of light weight anyway. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:30 pm
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I remember the Hartke 4 x 10" combo. It was basically the HA3500 head with their paper cone 4 x 10" cab, but it was 4 ohms, so you couldn't add any cabs, and it had the full 350 watts. That was one of the amps I was looking at back in like 2005 or so, when I didn't even have a bass amp (other than that Peavey Basic 60,) but it would have been another several years before the Rumble combo. It was that, or an SWR, if you remember those. There weren't a lot of choices back then, not like today, and that was only 14 years ago.

Oddly enough, when I got the Peavey Zodiac bass, I played it through a Hartke HA3500 and that 4 x 10" cab with the paper cones (I think it was called the VX series, but not sure,) which was essentially that combo, but it was an 8 ohm cab, and they weren't a single unit. It sounded really good, but I don't know how well those speakers would have held out, especially if they were pushed a bit. I did read mixed reviews about that cab, but I suppose if they fried, you could swap them out with Eminence ones (or whatever,) but there's that expense .

Yeah, Marshall isn't usually known for the tiny stuff that weighs 5 pounds. :P

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:14 pm
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I had a Hartke 410 Combo with the HyDrives in it, and the LH500 head in it. I didn't care for the LH in it. The cab part of it was ok.

True to form on the Marshall, for sure.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:10 pm
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that one. They've brought back the 2 x 10" version of that for sale over at AMS, with one being a "scratch and dent" for $349.99, the last time I looked. I guess those LH models are a lot different than the HA models, though. That would have been cool to have an HA5000 (when they made them) in that setup somehow, instead. You'd still get 500 watts, but have that EQ setup.

Marshall are fun to blast, though. :twisted: I suppose it's the price to pay. :P

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:57 am
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Kinda' ironic that most amp brands are what they are. Or at least in name only today. Marshall doing ok with guitar amps, and somewhat suck as a bass platform. Where Hartke seems to be used, and doing ok. Just maybe not more popular than they should be.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:20 pm
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I guess things come and go, as far as popularity is concerned. Look at Gallien Kruger, as an example. They were once the "big thing," but kind of been in the background, as well lately.

I guess Marshall never really had bass as a main focus, even though they've done bass stuff. Now, they own, or the company that owns Marshall, has Eden amps as part of the lineup, so I guess that's where their bass focus is now. Oddly enough, Hartke made guitar amps at one time, but I guess it didn't last too long. I do remember them, though.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:47 pm
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Some amp companies get into a groove that they get known for.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:42 pm
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That's true. I guess in a way, it's kind of like typecasting, which happens, or happened to actors. Adam West was a good example of that, after he did "Batman." You always expect just one certain thing, and it's hard to deviate from that, sometimes.

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