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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:43 pm
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That's true, that is pretty cheap, especially for getting 800 watts, there. Hell, if I had the cash, I'd pick it up as a back up, as long as it works like it should.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:12 am
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PaulLF wrote:
That's true, that is pretty cheap, especially for getting 800 watts, there. Hell, if I had the cash, I'd pick it up as a back up, as long as it works like it should.


Or even better than a backup, alternate between the two. It extends the life of both that way. It's not really that great having a head sit without any type of usege for too long.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:42 pm
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That would work, too. Or you can get really stupid, and run both through a pair of their 8 x 10" cabs, cranked all of the way up. :P You know, one of these days one of use need to do something like that, just to say we did. :P

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:06 pm
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That would work, too. Or you can get really stupid, and run both through a pair of their 8 x 10" cabs, cranked all of the way up. :P You know, one of these days one of use need to do something like that, just to say we did. :P



You would be the one to do that one. I’m here with one amp head.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:46 pm
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Yeah, I was joking, although fun as that may be. I couldn't even manage to haul or store one of those Ampeg 8 x 10" cabs, much less two of them. I suppose if I were playing in huge arenas, then you'd have people hired to do that for you. Still, having a second head isn't a bad idea, especially if you're doing a lot of gigging. I don't have one, but there is the Fender combo that I could use, if I had to, but that would be a pain in the arse to have to haul around for a backup. I just hope I don't run into that situation, but that's always a possibility, as well as you know, since that was your job to deal with.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:37 pm
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It's not a bad idea to have a back up head. Ya' never know. I don't know how much you could get for the Rumble Combo, but you could use the cash from that toward a second head.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:32 pm
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I don't know, I serious doubt I'd sell that amp, since despite it's weight, it's a great sounding amp, and I wouldn't get much for it, anyway. Maybe $300, if I'm lucky, since it's sort of obsolete with the new generation out, and priced fairly cheaply new.

Oh, speaking of combo amps, and Hartke, since that's technically what the current thread is supposed to be about (like that ever matters, :P) this gem popped up over at AMS: https://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-HAR-HM5210-LIST

I thought they didn't have this amp available around here anymore. Maybe they brought it back, or something. It's only $499.99, which seems like that's cheaper than it used to be, from what I can remember.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:57 pm
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Those were killer Combos. I had that one, and the 410 version of it. The LH 500 head just didn't give me enough low end.
I had a session today with the HA2500, and WOW! A slight boosting the first three slides of the EQ on the bass side. A slight boost on the Pre-Amp A, that controls the bass tube sounds, and boosted the Compression Control as well.
FANTASTIC! I don't believe I got the nice tones from either the Super Bassman, or the 4VB tube heads. I know I'm redundant on this, but this head matches up so fine with the 112b cab.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:47 am
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From what I understand, the EQ on those LH series was kind of weird, unlike the EQ we have on the Ampeg or the HA Hartke heads. It's like if you want it flat, you had to crank the mid frequency up, or something like that. Come to think of it, I think the Orange had a similar setup. You get only three knobs, and if you can't dial in your sound with those, then I guess you're out of luck, unless you have an additional EQ or preamp hooked up, which I did.

That's pretty good that you're getting a lot of good tones with that amp, especially in comparison to those other amps, which were a hell of a lot more expensive. You know, I remember the time I played through an HA3500 head, it did sound really nice, and I didn't even have to do a lot of EQ tweaking, and it was going through one of their cheapo paper cone cabs they had, not even the aluminum ones (I don't think HyDrive was out yet.) In some ways, I wish they still made the HA5500 head, which was the one I've always wanted, when they were around, before all of the Class D stuff became prevalent. Maybe there's some on the used market, but that's risky, and I'd be kind of going backwards, in a way, because of the size and weight of it, in comparison.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:59 am
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Yep, you're Right On about the LH Series EQ, it is controlled by the Mids. Even with that though, I still like the EQ on the HA Series. The slide draw bars are more like a mixing control board style. it is too bad the HA5500 isn't around any longer. Kinda' wonder why they dropped it from the lineup. I'm not attempting to peel paint off the walls, in my 11X13 room, with a 300 watt Super Bassman any longer. The HA2500, 250 watts is great through the 112b. A great amp for an old man.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:19 am
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I'd like the EQ on the HA series better, as well. I guess I've been more of a fan of graphic EQs, anyhow. Although, I can work pretty well with parametric EQs, also. I guess it all depends on the amp, too. The Ampeg doesn't have a graphic EQ, but it has enough tonal options to it to where I can dial in a good sound.

I don't know why they dropped it, either. They still kept the HA2500 and the HA3500, obviously. You'd think if anything, they would have kept the HA5500 and the HA2500, with the 500 and 250 watt differences, making them a smaller and larger powered amps, kind of like their 300 and 600 watt Class D ones. The HA3500 is only 100 watts difference to the HA2500, but maybe they kept it out of nostalgia sake, since it was the very first amp they ever put out, with the HA7000 model, which was basically two of them together with 350 watts x 2 stereo output . It's funny the Super Bassman is technically only 50 watts more, but I guess since it's all tube, it probably seems louder than that.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:16 pm
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Yeah, the HA5500 did make more sense to keep. The 300 watts from an all tube head is a lot louder than the equivalent SS head.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:22 am
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It's funny, that cab looks a hell of a lot smaller on the AMS site, than the actual pic of one, like you have, but obviously it's not, since you have a full size bass head on it, and it's not overhanging off of it.

Yeah, I imagine you do get some good clean lows from that setup. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HD75
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:18 am
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The HyDrive 112b is, 17” x 19.75” x 15.25” (HxWxD) / 33lb.
The HA2500 is about, 4" x 17" x 13" (HxWxD). They don't give a weight of it.
The HD112 is, 16" x 19" x 15" / 34lb. It's probably more suited for the TX300 head, being an inch shorter in Width.
I do appreciate the construction quality of the 112b, and it's ability to putout some fine tones. I couldn't ask more from a cab. Especially being a 300 watt, 4 ohm, solid plywood cab, without a HF Horn, that I didn't need, or want in the first place. The 112b handles the HyDrive 12" very well also. A win, win.

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Post subject: Re: Hartke HA2500
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:52 am
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It might have been designed with the TX300 in mind, but it does seem to work very well with the HA2500.

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