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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:46 am
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Slow motion existed at least a year before the supposed moon landings took place. Stanley Kubrick had it well perfected in the 1968 Movie (2001: A Space Odyssey).



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that is a film. And not likely to have been Telecine'd for Broadcast TV at that time.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:25 pm
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Slow motion existed at least a year before the supposed moon landings took place. Stanley Kubrick had it well perfected in the 1968 Movie (2001: A Space Odyssey).



Stanley Kubrick's 2001 used over-cranked Film to create the slow motion in the movie.

The Apollo Landing was shown in Video and there were no slow motion video cameras in 1968 - they hadn't been invented yet !

Actually the first slow motion pre-dates even movies.

It was first used on June 15, 1878 by Eadweard Muybridge to settle a bet made by ex-California Governor Leland Stanford (Founder of Stanford University) that a horse in a gallop at one point had all four legs in the air. Many believed that a horse always kept one foot on the ground. The horse moved too quickly for the Human Eye to capture all 4 legs in the air.

Muybridge rigged 12 cameras along the finish line at a track with thin threads running from the shutters across the track. The passing horse broke the threads and triggered the shutters, proving that the animal indeed had all 4 legs o0ff the ground.

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Later, Muybridge took many such photos of a horse named Sallie Gardner and pasted them outside a hollow tube surrounded by another tube w/ a slit in it. As the inner tube was spun, the images of the horse running blended into real motion - one of the very first motion pictures.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:37 pm
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Once a person has convinced himself of something like a fake moon landing or that the government is responsible for the collapse of the twin towers, it is almost impossible to dissuade them. Logical argument is pointless, because there belief is not logic based , its fear based

I totally agree with this statement. I watched the plane fly over my head extremely low on 911 and STILL found myself in a heated discussion that there were no planes on that day and that it was all TV trickery.

I have a friend who is still convinced that the Sandy Hook school shootings never happened. Thinks the government staged it and hired actors to play the grieving parents of the nonexistent dead kids on the news. All so that the government can use it as an excuse to take everyone's guns away.
As far as 911, I still haven't heard a good reason for the tower that wasn't hit to come down. Or why it looked exactly like the controlled implosions you see when professionals demolish a structure. I'm sure that there were hijacked aircraft involved in 911 but I'm also sure that there is a lot more to the story. Maybe in 50 or so years the facts will come out.


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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:21 am
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fenderfan wrote:
captainc wrote:
Eroot64 wrote:
Once a person has convinced himself of something like a fake moon landing or that the government is responsible for the collapse of the twin towers, it is almost impossible to dissuade them. Logical argument is pointless, because there belief is not logic based , its fear based

I totally agree with this statement. I watched the plane fly over my head extremely low on 911 and STILL found myself in a heated discussion that there were no planes on that day and that it was all TV trickery.

I have a friend who is still convinced that the Sandy Hook school shootings never happened. Thinks the government staged it and hired actors to play the grieving parents of the nonexistent dead kids on the news. All so that the government can use it as an excuse to take everyone's guns away.
As far as 911, I still haven't heard a good reason for the tower that wasn't hit to come down. Or why it looked exactly like the controlled implosions you see when professionals demolish a structure. I'm sure that there were hijacked aircraft involved in 911 but I'm also sure that there is a lot more to the story. Maybe in 50 or so years the facts will come out.


Oh brother... i forgot about that ... I traded emails with my buddy i mentioned above recently and he mentioned the Sandy Hook thing... i just ignored it. He's a very good friend of mine so I just have to ignore some of his wacko theories.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:45 am
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I have one cousin who entered University at the early age of 14, and another who is a scientist who worked at a nuclear plant researching a possible vaccine for the common cold. The smart gene passed me by (I'm still lurnin') so I won't join the intelligent folk here in the informative fact/fiction discussion except to say that we have a lot to discover about the space between our ears. :D :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:04 am
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Evidence such as the Laser Reflector the astronauts installed on the moon's surface to accurately measure distance and any perturbations in the moon's orbit. This reflector is available to countless scientists and university professors who use it regularly. Evidence of the Moon Rocks which geologically differ significantly from any rocks found on Earth (how'd the "Government" stage these?).



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Ya know...I forgot all about that reflector. There was mention of the reflector back in Carl Sagan's "Cosmos" series where they measured a slight rocking motion of the moon due to a meteor strike or something as I recall. If the landings were faked, how'd the reflector get up there so precisely and where'd the moon rocks come from?

Yea, it's not just about the video...the vid's a strong argument (in that it would have been hard to fake), but there's just sooooooooo many other things that people always seem to over-look (including the grand question of "why").



Anyways...the number 1 reason we know humans have gone to the moon?

Because it's just not that far away....



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Again, just want to state that I do not think there was a cover-up or anything like that. But.....

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the grand question of "why"

The question of "Why" is fairly obvious, IMO, YMMV:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:03 pm
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strings10927 wrote:
Again, just want to state that I do not think there was a cover-up or anything like that. But.....

lomitus wrote:
the grand question of "why"

The question of "Why" is fairly obvious, IMO, YMMV:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race


Trying to suggest that such a hoax would be done out of some misguided sense of American Pride towards the space race...isn't very plausible. A hoax of this nature would have required extensive planning, LOTS of money and would have relied on A LOT of people staying quiet all these years (not to mention all the other issues already discussed). -If- this were actually the case, it would suggest that the US somehow knew that it wasn't possible to reach the moon, however, if that were the case, then what would be the point of a hoax to begin with? If we knew it couldn't be done...what would be the point of a nationwide hoax if no one else can do it either? You don't spend that kind of money and effort to fake the illusion of something (short of filming the next Hollywood blockbuster), if you don't think it's possible.

It seems to me there are really only two possibilities - either our government thought they could do it (actually make it to the moon) or they didn't...and both of those possibilities would seem to exclude the need for ANY hoax regarding the matter. Blaming on the space race doesn't really make much sense when you put everything in perspective.


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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:59 pm
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OF COURSE the lunar landing was a hoax, because the Moon itself is a hoax which the Illuminati and the Free Masons have been perpetrating on us for millennia. D'uuh. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:37 pm
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I think I have conclusive proof that the landing occurred. During the episode "Lunar excitation" of the big bang theory. the guys shot a laser at the ranging reflector left by NASA. The conspiracy folks were well represented by "Zack" who was afraid the laser would blow up the moon. :lol:



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OF COURSE the lunar landing was a hoax, because the Moon itself is a hoax which the Illuminati and the Free Masons have been perpetrating on us for millennia. D'uuh. :roll:

:P :wink: :lol:

My account appears to have been hacked, so I have changed my password. I had those emoticons side by side, not stacked vertically.

Forgot to mention, those reflectors on the Moon have also been used to measure the continental drift of Europe and North America.

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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:17 pm
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Forgot to mention, those reflectors on the Moon have also been used to measure the continental drift of Europe and North America.

There are some nutjobs who deny continental drift too - continental drift requires the earth to be much older than 6000 years for the continents to have drifted as much as they have, so it's discarded as a satanic lie.

I just find it funny that there are people aren't willing to credit us with the science to go to the moon, but are more than willing to credit us with the more advanced science of detecting Van Allen belts... Sometimes the same people who refuse to believe the sun is a fusion reactor.


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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:52 pm
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Sometimes the same people who refuse to believe the sun is a fusion reactor.


Many of them think TV wrestling is fake as well.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:59 pm
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Lightnin MN wrote:
Blue Rock wrote:
Slow motion existed at least a year before the supposed moon landings took place. Stanley Kubrick had it well perfected in the 1968 Movie (2001: A Space Odyssey).



Stanley Kubrick's 2001 used over-cranked Film to create the slow motion in the movie.

The Apollo Landing was shown in Video and there were no slow motion video cameras in 1968 - they hadn't been invented yet !

Actually the first slow motion pre-dates even movies.

It was first used on June 15, 1878 by Eadweard Muybridge to settle a bet made by ex-California Governor Leland Stanford (Founder of Stanford University) that a horse in a gallop at one point had all four legs in the air. Many believed that a horse always kept one foot on the ground. The horse moved too quickly for the Human Eye to capture all 4 legs in the air.

Muybridge rigged 12 cameras along the finish line at a track with thin threads running from the shutters across the track. The passing horse broke the threads and triggered the shutters, proving that the animal indeed had all 4 legs o0ff the ground.

Image

Later, Muybridge took many such photos of a horse named Sallie Gardner and pasted them outside a hollow tube surrounded by another tube w/ a slit in it. As the inner tube was spun, the images of the horse running blended into real motion - one of the very first motion pictures.

Image

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I could fill a book on how and where many of the current TV technologies became common place being that I worked in B/W broadcasting with kinescope and I used an added basic accessory (Ampex Editec 1963) mounted outboard to a video tape deck for editing frame by frame video tape, etc. I saw many of the developments prior to public knowledge, and many advancements occurred in the late 60s and early 70s.

Sportscasts then and now were often behind the inventive developments of audio and video. Hockey, football, baseball, golf, the Olympics, and so on participated. Military usage and the space programs had their needs and also contributed to development.

March 1967 had the Ampex HS-100 (soon after the Ampex HS-200) disc recorder with slo-mo. This preceded the moon landing.

For a look at the machine it will be halfway into this Wikipedia article.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampex#H ... c_recorder

Apollo's slo-scan (not to be confused with slo-mo) camera is here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_TV_camera

I hope this helps to clarify that slo-mo video was possible. Order of Apollo broadcast events is questionable, however.
YMMV

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To make this post relative to music - In The Year 2525 (Exordium and Terminus) by Zager and Evans was released the week of the lunar landing.
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