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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:30 am
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On a side note:

Missing data including telemetry and original video of the landing has come into question; but, rather than going into detail, which is available elsewhere, I leave you with this.

I was taught in the military that one of the best ways to keep a secret is to not make (preferred) or keep a record. Pretty much how judgments are made in the court of law.

Anything else becomes here-say.

This can be a powerful tool as well if one knows how to use it under the right conditions. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:51 am
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While this thread has been an interesting read so far, I think it might be time to justify its presence on this forum.
Thus; I wonder if anybody has ever played a Fender guitar while on a space mission?

(Alright, with that being done, continue the debate, folks.)
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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:22 am
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Unlikely for the Strat being played in Space, and I don't believe any other electric has been used either, although a light interface could replace a heavy amp. But, along with a variety of music and general postings historically posted here, the very name Stratocaster has a connection to Space and we at least have this.


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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:28 am
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BMW-KTM wrote:
While this thread has been an interesting read so far, I think it might be time to justify its presence on this forum.
Thus; I wonder if anybody has ever played a Fender guitar while on a space mission?

(Alright, with that being done, continue the debate, folks.)

BMW-KTM may or may not have a valid point here. Not for me to decide, however.

So, for the moment I submit the reason why the Strat (and other guitars) possibly didn't make the list of instruments in Space.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... 4sep_music

This should help to make the topic related. As for the moon part of the topic, Dark Side Of The Moon has a relationship with David Gilmour's Stratocaster. phew!
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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:18 pm
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Speaking of space, have you ever seen the rings around Uranus? :P http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/pro ... play=Rings

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:36 am
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PaulLF wrote:
Speaking of space, have you ever seen the rings around Uranus? :P

I had two responses to that question, and I couldn't decide which one was funnier, so:
(1) No, not without a mirror!
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(2) No, I don't have any piercings.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:01 pm
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You know, I had to post that. I couldn't help myself. At least I'm not telling knock knock jokes. :P

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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:57 pm
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Well whatever happened back then , it's going to be real easy to get to the moon soon.


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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:45 pm
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I'd say he's pretty ambitious, at least. :P

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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:53 am
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Wow, I sometimes forget how much the internet loves conspiracies!
While I'm happy to don a tin-foil hat if I find the right reasons, I usually try to keep my mind open.
But I won't deny objective facts.

In relation to the moon landings, I had an astronomer friend of mine reply once that it would only take a few minutes in the records of C.S.I.R.O. (Australian Science research guys - which contains our stargazing community) to definitively prove man went to the moon. Out of interest, I spent five minutes on the web, and came up with this:
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This shows the Apollo 11 signal, as the craft disappears behind the moon, the day prior to landing.

Now sure, us Aussies are American allies, and while we are best mates, our scientists love bloody science. They aren't about to look like a bunch of flamin' galahs and "play along" with a lie that would only serve to harm science, and not further it.

Any way you look at it, there is an overwhelming amount of proof that man went to the moon, from an overwhelming amount of sources (including states that were independent and/or antagonistic towards the U.S. at the time).
... But if you want to talk about miraculous building removals, I'm all ears! Lemme grab my aluminium head-wear, here in Australia we can afford the extra vowel in our metals...


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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 7:46 am
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In this day and age, I just find it incredible that people still think the Apollo landings were a hoax or somehow faked....I guess this is just more proof that facts will never stand in the way of ignorant beliefs and preconceptions.

As something of an amateur astronomer (among other things), while my humble little Orion 5" scope won't pick up those artifacts at the landing site, I've certainly seen enough to STRONGLY suspect that the moon landings were in fact quite legit. Even with my little Orion and even living here in Northern Ohio (where the night sky generally SUCKS), I've seen some really amazing views...the rings of Saturn, the "storm" on Jupiter (including a great color view on a monitor hooked up to a 14" Celestion at a local observatory) and some GREAT views of the nebula in Orion. On a -really- good night, I can even get some of that ring nebula in Lyra, along with a pretty good look (comparatively speaking) of the Andromeda galaxy. The universe is truly an incredible marvel and anyone who's still ignorant enough to believe those little lights in the sky are somehow "pin holes in the fabric of heaven" is really missing A LOT. Beyond that, it really shouldn't take a genius or any degree of rocket science (pun intended) to realize that yes, we do have communication satellites up there (and have had for some time) and certainly anyone with even a modest telescope can catch a glimpse of the ISS (nightly coordinates of such things are easy to find on the internet for those interested in taking a look).

Beyond that, logic and common sense should tell us that all those rockets we humans have been launching into space for the past 50 years or so...yea, they really do work. The technology is sound. Anyone with a cell phone or Dish Network should know this. Why then should it be so impossible to think we could have done this back in the 60's? We certainly had the technology to achieve such a thing...as philipk there suggested, it doesn't take an IBM server to make a rocket fly (anyone who's ever lit a bottle rocket should KNOW this). The vast number of people who saw that rocket go up in person should certainly suggest that the launch was real...it wasn't just televised - there were countless witnesses on the ground as well. As philipk stated, the Russians (along with other countries I'm sure) would CERTAINLY have made a huge deal about it if it was somehow "faked"...there's just NO WAY the US government would have gotten away with such an outrageous hoax. What's more is what exactly would be the point of faking such a thing to begin with? Why go to the trouble and expense of perpetrating such as hoax when we had the ability to actually get to the moon? That just doesn't make sense -at all-.

While I could easily go on here (as most people with half a brain could) because as Jonoteague there said, there's such an overwhelming about of proof, as I started off with, the sad truth is that facts will seldom change the ignorance of "belief". As my brother has often said, "you just can't fix stupid". After all, it's just easier to believe such rubbish than it is to actually educate one's self - we certainly see this every day with nonsense such as religion and politics. I suspect that some day, when travel to the moon becomes common place (an interesting tourist spot perhaps...I'd certainly go) and people can see those artifacts for themselves, there will STILL be some people who will choose to be ignorant about it. After all, the Lunar Tourist Authority just put that stuff there so people will spend more money at the gift shop and the concession stands...right?


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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:54 am
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The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) estimates that 6% of the US population are idiots... that equates to 19,800,000 people (or almost 20 Million people, most of whom also seem to vote regularly as well... :shock: ).

Threads like this make that estimate seem low... :lol: (And... part of the trouble with Idiots is that they don't think they're Idiots, in fact usually the opposite - they actually think they're smart... !!! )

The fact is, the technology did exist in 1969 to get a team of astronauts to the Moon.

Both the Russians and the Chinese tracked the entire Apollo 11 mission to the Moon and back and conceded that the USA accomplished this feat.

This was the height of the Cold War and the Space Race was the premier competition between the Superpowers. It's inconceivable that they would not immediately expose a fraud as large as a faked Moon Landing to embarrass the US.

The technology to fake a Moon Landing as proffered by all the Conspiracy Theorists (né Idiots) out there DID NOT exist in 1969.

Those wishing to actually learn why this mission could not be faked might want to watch this YouTube by 40-year veteran filmmaker S.G. Collins:



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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:14 am
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The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) estimates that 6% of the US population are idiots... that equates to 19,800,000 people (or almost 20 Million people, most of whom also seem to vote regularly as well... :shock: ).

Threads like this make that estimate seem low... :lol: (And... part of the trouble with Idiots is that they don't think they're Idiots, in fact usually the opposite - they actually think they're smart... !!! )

The fact is, the technology did exist in 1969 to get a team of astronauts to the Moon.

Both the Russians and the Chinese tracked the entire Apollo 11 mission to the Moon and back and conceded that the USA accomplished this feat.

This was the height of the Cold War and the Space Race was the premier competition between the Superpowers. It's inconceivable that they would not immediately expose a fraud as large as a faked Moon Landing to embarrass the US.

The technology to fake a Moon Landing as proffered by all the Conspiracy Theorists (né Idiots) out there DID NOT exist in 1969.

Those wishing to actually learn why this mission could not be faked might want to watch this YouTube by 40-year veteran filmmaker S.G. Collins:



cheers!
Thank you, you took the words right out of my mouth. It is sad to see one of the greatest achievements of mankind being denigrated.

And that is all I have to say about this silly, paranoid-conspiracy nonsense.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:55 pm
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Besides, if the moon landing was a hoax (despite my corny jokes about Uranus and Jimmy Hoffa, I don't believe it was a fake,) then where in the hell did that rocket go with the astronauts on it? Obviously people watched it being launched in space from the ground. What would be the point to even fake it, anyhow? I'd think NASA would want to see what was there. I'd certainly would.

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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:52 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Besides, if the moon landing was a hoax (despite my corny jokes about Uranus and Jimmy Hoffa, I don't believe it was a fake,) then where in the hell did that rocket go with the astronauts on it? Obviously people watched it being launched in space from the ground. What would be the point to even fake it, anyhow? I'd think NASA would want to see what was there. I'd certainly would.


I second that! And if Apollo 11 was a fake why did they risk the lives of later Apollo astronauts. Nice try guys. Pearl Harbor was a fake too?

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