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Post subject: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:54 pm
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The 46th anniversary of Apollo 11 On The Moon. A great accomplishment. RIP Neal Armstrong.

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Location: On the loo, regretting that gas station burrito.
It's also where they buried Jimmy Hoffa. :P

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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:18 am
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Well, I'll be hog swallowed.
The Moonies are at it again. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:47 pm
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This is how I know the gov't has been brainwashing me since I was 5. My parents gave me a Brownie camera and I've been snapping pics ever since. Problem is: if what conspiracy theorists say about the moon photos (and video) is true, then either they've never used a camera OR I've been misled on the whole thing of lighting, shadows, film response, etc. for the past 58 years.

Therefore, I haven't really seen the effects of atmosphere, light angle, type of film. Equally, I've never taken pictures in desert-scapes similar to those we allegedly used for the faked landings. I haven't taken any pictures at night, nor have I ever used any specialized film such as Infared. Maybe I've never even used a real camera -- it's just all been an illusion planted in my mind starting back in 1957.

Why? Well I suppose that any gov't conspiracy that could have faked a moon landing (which in my illusory state of mind would have taken a much bigger and less likely to succeed effort than going there), would know that some day I might try to debunk the conspiracy on the Fender forums. In fact, I'm imagining working in the movie biz (with a vendor) for the past 26 years so I can't really tell you how much of an effort it would have taken in 1969 to fake all the videos and stills. It would have been 10X the effort needed to produce Disney's greatest animated features. All done in secret with the budget and relocation of that many photographic and film experts undetected.

And, I'm only dreaming that not a single member of this massive fake-it team has ever come forward with proof to debunk the claims of the scientists and engineers who worked on the supposed real moon flight teams.

Either that or ... we really did go there 46 years ago.


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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:33 pm
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Did they reach the moon? I hope so. In the 60s my Dad drove several hours from our home in Nova Scotia just so I could see cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space.

In Montreal USA and the USSR competed with space displays at EXPO '67. My friends and I experienced USAs and the USSRs space exhibits.

My ship was later tied up to a ship involved with John Glenn where a shrine of photos showing the pickup was found below decks.

In the 70s Marc Garneau, one of Canada's astronauts, stopped by my place of work bringing with him what was, apparently, a moon rock! Lucky me, I got my hands on it. If it indeed was real I can say I touched the moon! If not . . . well, it was a great hoax to be sure.

The fact that so many countries are involved at so many levels, including amateurs, and with the sheer exuberance of those involved, it would seem to dictate a difficulty of it being a conspiracy. IMHO.

Interesting item about missing moon rocks:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_ ... moon_rocks

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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:03 pm
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Remember when Buzz Aldrin punched Bart Sibrel, who was harassing him about faking the moon landing.

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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:51 pm
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It's a scientific fact that even today, no one can pass through the Van allen belt....all the spacewalks were done below that level why?

https://ronabbass.wordpress.com/2012/08 ... -vid-incl/

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:59 pm
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ButchA wrote:
Remember when Buzz Aldrin punched Bart Sibrel, who was harassing him about faking the moon landing.


I find it extremely interesting that on presumably the most significant day of that rust-picker's life (20 July 1969), he has never expressed a single thought of that event -- neither written nor spoken. And that is an undisputable fact. He's a fraud, Apollo is a fraud, NASA is a fraud. All gift-wrapped and sold to us by Walter "the most trusted man in America" Cronkite. Just like he sold Lee Harvey Oswald to us.

It's all a load of crap.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:04 am
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*sigh* :roll:

http://au.askmen.com/top_10/entertainme ... pened.html

Also... As a regular Freemason and a 32° Scottish Rite Mason, I read the whole story about Buzz Aldrin unfurling the Scottish Rite Southern Jurisdiction banner on the moon. It was not aired on TV nor was NASA going to film it or publicly mention it, due to that crazed nutjob atheist Madelyn Murray O'Hair, who (back in the day) successfully sued to have prayer removed from public schools, and pretty much sued everyone and everything over the years. But anyway... I have been to the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite Temple in Washington, DC, and yes, seriously, I absolutely swear to you, I have seen Buzz Aldrin's Scottish Rite flag that was on the moon. It is on display in the library museum, under framed glass, just like our own Declaration of Independence is mounted under glass.

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Anyway, what I am getting at is, haven't you all seen that "Mythbusters" TV show, where they went into a vaccuum controlled room, in spacesuits, and recreated the lunar landing in 1969? Those guys Adam and Jamie COULD NOT bust the "myth" that the lunar landing was a hoax. Everything they did with no atmosphere, zero gravity, and most importantly, shadows and lighting also jived due to physics of how lights behaves with no atmosphere, pressure, or wind.

Here's another one for you... In 1971 on Apollo 14, Alan Shepard hit a golf ball with a modified 6 iron, specially attached to the bottom of a retrieval tool, and the golf ball went 2 1/2 miles! He said, "...miles and miles" right after he hit one-armed golf shot. We as kids back then always thought he hit the golf ball into orbit. But NASA calculated it went 2 1/2 miles before finally coming back down to the lunar surface.


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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:25 am
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ButchA wrote:
... In 1971 on Apollo 14, Alan Shepard hit a golf ball with a modified 6 iron, specially attached to the bottom of a retrieval tool, and the golf ball went 2 1/2 miles! He said, "...miles and miles" right after he hit one-armed golf shot ... NASA calculated it went 2 1/2 miles before finally coming back down to the lunar surface.

Yep, that is pretty convincing. There is even more proof that Apollo was a fake in that in 1965 Pete Townshend of the Who wrote "I Can See For Miles" which has "miles and miles" in its lyric ... four years before the golf shot was to take place. Even more suspicious, in his autobiography, Pete never uses the word "space" or "NASA" anywhere in it ... not even once. CLEARLY, they got ol' Pete to be in on this, too.

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:34 am
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Apparently nasa have made the worlds most powerful telescope and they claim that they can see the landing site etc
However instead of letting an independant body of people have a look through it, thereby proving once and for all they didn't lie through their teeth, they steadfastly refuse to let anyone have a look through it ..what does that tell you
A few things have always not rung quite true to me, considering the quality of the pictures how come the video was absoluteley crap quality , you'd think they would have used better video cameras

As for the golf ball .....anybody care to tell me exactly how somebody can accurateley work out how high a ball went from 235000 miles away, back in the sixties ?

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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:45 am
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Russia and USA presently share the International Space Station. It appears things are about to change - Big Time ! Here is a current news item about proposed manned landings:

http://m.in.rbth.com/news/2015/05/25/ru ... 43301.html

NASA will be able to verify or deny those landings. With the politics involved, any conspiracy should be revealed or highly difficult to organize. IMHO.

As for Van Allen radiation belts . . . multiple belts and trajectory are said to sometimes minimize conditions and to have been factors for the Apollo missions. Van Allen belts change as do the discoveries.

For those who have time, this is a really good, fairly objective, article with cool media explaining some of the arguments presented in this topic and both sides of the issue. :shock:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_la ... y_theories

Here on earth we draw borders and dispute them. Sad to see that space has inherited these human differences, rather than carrying on the ISS tradition of joining the human race. But, hey . . . that's the dark side of the moon - human and so expected. :(

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Post subject: Re: Apollo 11 On The Moon
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:01 pm
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The Soviet Union, UK, France and other nations had to be in on the conspiracy as well for it to work. The USSR especially would have yelled fake if their radar didn't find Apollo on a trajectory to the moon. And while the UK and France were allies ... what would it have taken to pay them off for not revealing tracking evidence to show that Apollo never went. And that only deals with the faked it group who at least allow that what millions saw on TV (the astronauts getting in, Apollo leaving the ground, etc.) was legit. They claim it never left orbit -- something the USSR or PRC would have been all over.

From there, we descend. Either radar waves can't really reach the moon or the Van Allen belt just happens to conveniently filter those particular wavelengths. I don't imagine that even conspiracy types would say that the moon, stars, etc. are fake too. So it seems curious that energy in the same bandwidth from the sun gets though ... or did scientists already begin to prepare for the Apollo tracking hoax nearly 100 years in advance?

Then there's the delay ... faked too? Again, the USSR and others would have the ability to determine that a call and response didn't allow for the travel time. It's small, but real ... so I suppose NASA allowed for that and somehow send Apollo's supposed radio responses through a delay of the correct length.

One argument I hear is that we didn't have the technology -- computers, for instance, were too primitive. That one leaves me in stitches every time. Yes I might agree that if NASA was trying to use an IBM-360 business computer programmed in COBOL, the necessary calculations would have been difficult to nearly impossible. But they weren't ... they had dedicated systems programmed in a language called Assembly, very near to the ones and zeros of the machine itself. They also had large coding teams and other teams that paralleled those teams. Typically, each section of code was written by three teams, with the version used chosen at random and QAed against the other two efforts. (Hopefully I don't need to explain the why's of all this.)

So it's somewhat a myth that today's PCs are more powerful than what NASA had back then. Not really, though they certainly used a lot more power and took up a lot more space. These systems are similar to those used for the advanced math needed to create H-bombs and that's non-trivial to say the least. Or do you want to argue that H-bombs don't exist because today's PCs would at best struggle with that level of calculation so the "primitive" computers they had in 1952 couldn't have done it?

I've met people on some of those development teams over the years. They believe the flight occurred and they were there. Deluded? Master Liars? As I said in the early post: it would be easier to believe that the landing happened than to add one contortion (each of which can be disproved) on top of another. We couldn't accomplish a relatively straight forward moon flight but could pull off a massive conspiracy involving large numbers of people and even nations hostile to us? Really?


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