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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:56 pm
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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:01 pm
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First song was Wipe Out, followed (I think) by Dirty Water (Standells). Early on, coming from violin, playing the melody lines was (relatively, if painfully) somewhat easy ... as opposed to playing chords. First attempt at chords was "Saw Her Standing There" ... it took seemingly forever and ever ... and ever ...


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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:42 am
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I don´t remember my first songs on the acoustic, because thats too long ago. But my first on the electric were Smoke on the water, Stairway to heaven and Highway to Hell. The last two fit together perfectly :wink:
LOL! Do you by chance live in the Midwest (USA), and grow up in the late 70's early 80's? This is my answer as well....except it was Smoke On The Water, and Hell's Bell's! All my guitar playing friends that I grew up with would have the same answer as well (seemed like a "right of passage"). 8)


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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:21 am
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"Sympathy For The Devil" by the Rolling Stones (much to the chagrin of my parents, until I made them listen to the lyrics and prove to me that anything in the song was praising Satan...in the end, they agreed it was more of a cautionary tale).

Pretty simple rhythm line--E/D/A for the verses, a B is thrown in on the chorus.

The toughest part was switching from the E to the D and staying on rhythm, but after about twenty minutes, I was rockin' the rhythm line and singing the lyrics pretty dang well. Months later, I started playing the lead lines to the song.

The first song I learned to play slide guitar on was "Little Red Rooster". I adapted my own arrangement, somewhere between the Stones version found on "Love You Live" and Howlin' Wolf's original.

...and the first song I learned on harp (harmonica) was the live version of "Midnight Rambler" from the "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out" LP...
Obviously, the Stones were a big influence on my early playing. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:15 pm
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The Mel Bay book was given to me by my first guitar teacher. I don't remember which songs from the book I learned but I do remember the first song he (Luigi) taught me, Malagueña, the sixth movement of Lecuona's Suite Andalucia. The first song I taught myself, Honky Tonk but each time Luigi would catch me playing Bill Dogget's tune In a thick Italian accent he would say " no boogie boogie. Play guitar, come back to sorrento". :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:47 pm
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The Mel Bay book was given to me by my first guitar teacher. I don't remember which songs from the book I learned but I do remember the first song he (Luigi) taught me, Malagueña, the sixth movement of Lecuona's Suite Andalucia. The first song I taught myself, Honky Tonk but each time Luigi would catch me playing Bill Dogget's tune In a thick Italian accent he would say " no boogie boogie. Play guitar, come back to sorrento". :lol:


Malagueña was the first challenge song us baby-boomers learned. I just read Keith Richards' book and it was apparently the same story in the U.K. It became even more challenging when my brother - who had just taken a lesson from Celin Romero - told us brothers, "Celin plays both parts at once!" (that meant the melody and the bass line simultaneously). We all set off working out two notes of melody for every bass note. I still play it today of course. -Marty


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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:46 am
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Little Brown "Freakin" Jug. It wasn't long after, that I quite music lessons. I think that in years past, teachers missed one very important point regarding music lessons - keep the student interested. Teach the student what he/she wants to play. No matter what the song, a more simple arrangement can be put together for beginners. Find the material what best suites the student's interest. They failed big time on that years ago. Last year my wife went in for piano lessons. One of the first questions she was asked - "What kind of music are you interested in?" That, I believe, is how it should be done.

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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:47 am
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Not counting all the Polly Wolly Doodles and Row Row Row from my childhood pass at learning, the first song I could play as an adult was Wild Thing, and Walk Don't Run as the first song where I wasn't just strumming three chords.


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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:43 am
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Little Brown "Freakin" Jug. It wasn't long after, that I quite music lessons. I think that in years past, teachers missed one very important point regarding music lessons - keep the student interested. Teach the student what he/she wants to play. No matter what the song, a more simple arrangement can be put together for beginners. Find the material what best suites the student's interest. They failed big time on that years ago. Last year my wife went in for piano lessons. One of the first questions she was asked - "What kind of music are you interested in?" That, I believe, is how it should be done.

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Very good point!

In my time, there was a stock sequence you went through (the Mel Bay books featured prominently). The idea was similar to my violin lessons -- to teach you to be a musician, not necessarily to play a few popular songs. For that, there were a few "Learn to Play Your 100 Favorite Songs in 2 Days" books typically advertised on matchbook covers. If you didn't want to learn to read music and learn to play guitar in context of any type of band setting, then "why are you here?" Now if you stuck with it, there was a long term payoff in becoming an overall musician, not just someone who could play songs by ear.

But few did, and for that matter, they rarely gave you any ear training at all. My guitar teacher suggested that playing a tune by ear "was for folkies and rock-n-roll types." You learn in whatever key, play note for note and that's about all you can do. You're a technician, maybe a skilled one ... but not a musician (in his opinion). This system didn't allow for anyone wanting to fit in somewhere between 3-chord playing sing-along guitarist and a highly trained musician.

I find that some teachers today are able to strike a balance. Do you need to know theory -- yes, to an extent. But playing by ear is valuable as well. How often is the sheet music on rock songs right? Rarely, if memory serves me correctly. For that matter, how many local bands are going to invest in a sheet music library? Ear training should be a part of your lessons as well.

As for the rest: teach a few songs in the student's area of interest early on. That will help keep interest; even then, I suppose, most will drop out once they realize it's hard work to get good. But I think a higher percentage will stick with lessons long enough to be more proficient all around. How often would you go to a restaurant where the decor jarred your senses (even though it was designed by a famous designer) and where they'd only serve you what their vision of "good for you" is? So why go to a guitar teacher who's going to drill you for a year in theory before playing a real song and when you do get to that song, it's nothing in any genre you have any interest in?


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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:09 am
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philipk wrote:
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Little Brown "Freakin" Jug. It wasn't long after, that I quite music lessons. I think that in years past, teachers missed one very important point regarding music lessons - keep the student interested. Teach the student what he/she wants to play. No matter what the song, a more simple arrangement can be put together for beginners. Find the material what best suites the student's interest. They failed big time on that years ago. Last year my wife went in for piano lessons. One of the first questions she was asked - "What kind of music are you interested in?" That, I believe, is how it should be done.

JMHO

Cheers


Very good point!

In my time, there was a stock sequence you went through (the Mel Bay books featured prominently). The idea was similar to my violin lessons -- to teach you to be a musician, not necessarily to play a few popular songs. For that, there were a few "Learn to Play Your 100 Favorite Songs in 2 Days" books typically advertised on matchbook covers. If you didn't want to learn to read music and learn to play guitar in context of any type of band setting, then "why are you here?" Now if you stuck with it, there was a long term payoff in becoming an overall musician, not just someone who could play songs by ear.

But few did, and for that matter, they rarely gave you any ear training at all. My guitar teacher suggested that playing a tune by ear "was for folkies and rock-n-roll types." You learn in whatever key, play note for note and that's about all you can do. You're a technician, maybe a skilled one ... but not a musician (in his opinion). This system didn't allow for anyone wanting to fit in somewhere between 3-chord playing sing-along guitarist and a highly trained musician.

I find that some teachers today are able to strike a balance. Do you need to know theory -- yes, to an extent. But playing by ear is valuable as well. How often is the sheet music on rock songs right? Rarely, if memory serves me correctly. For that matter, how many local bands are going to invest in a sheet music library? Ear training should be a part of your lessons as well.

As for the rest: teach a few songs in the student's area of interest early on. That will help keep interest; even then, I suppose, most will drop out once they realize it's hard work to get good. But I think a higher percentage will stick with lessons long enough to be more proficient all around. How often would you go to a restaurant where the decor jarred your senses (even though it was designed by a famous designer) and where they'd only serve you what their vision of "good for you" is? So why go to a guitar teacher who's going to drill you for a year in theory before playing a real song and when you do get to that song, it's nothing in any genre you have any interest in?


Couldn't have said it better!!


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Post subject: Re: Do You Remember the First Song You Learned to Play?
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:29 am
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I'm not 100% certain; but, it must have been excruciating pain for the recipient. :lol:

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Beverly Hills by Weezer. Minus the solo :lol:

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I'm not 100% certain; but, it must have been excruciating pain for the recipient. :lol:


Probably not half as bad as when I started learning music as a kid, on a gut string fiddle.

These days, learning to play the electric guitar seems much easier. There are headphone amps with built-in amp emulators, and no need to subject the surroundings to the sound of tortured ponies. And video tutors with endless patience. Back when I was younger, the only way to get the sound I wanted was to, well, dime it.


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I'm not 100% certain; but, it must have been excruciating pain for the recipient. :lol:


Probably not half as bad as when I started learning music as a kid, on a gut string fiddle.

Haha " junior, you know the landlord doesn't allow pets in the apartment, now open this door" sorta thing eh.


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I'm not 100% certain; but, it must have been excruciating pain for the recipient. :lol:


Probably not half as bad as when I started learning music as a kid, on a gut string fiddle.

Haha " junior, you know the landlord doesn't allow pets in the apartment, now open this door" sorta thing eh.

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