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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:26 am
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Think Building a Ship in a Bottle...


Never quite figured out how they do that...or even why, LOL!!! I get what you're saying though...

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There are many tools out there which can help...Look up: Large Forceps


Yea...already planning a trip up to Harbor Freight Tools. If nothing else I need to pick up some (more or less) proper bleeder wrenches for my wife's car (busted a break line over the winter), so I'll look around and see what I can find.



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Pay someone else to do it (that's a real solution for many people).



I don't know if it's just my overly frugal nature or what, but I just hate the idea of paying someone to do something I can do myself...always have. I've never seen the point of paying someone to do something that I can usually do myself, often do better and almost always at a fraction of the cost...just seems insanely wasteful (and lazy) to me. Maybe it's just that I grew up in a DIY family...my folks never had much money as I was growing up, so if something broke around the house...stove, washer & dryer, clogged toilet, etc...my Dad was usually the one who fixed it. The only time I remember Dad ever calling a repair man was for the furnace (and that was mainly because of Mom's mouth...). I still remember the days when Dad would pull the vacuum tubes out of the back of the TV chassis and run them down to the corner to test them (those old tube testers were sooooo cool when I was a kid). By the time I was 12, I could sweat copper pipes and I knew 110 electrical pretty well. As an adult, nothing's really changed...my wife and I have an 80 year old house and in the 25 years we've lived here, we've replaced our own furnace, we've done dry walling, installed new carpet, replaced 80 year old pipes, installed our own storm windows, installed our own wood burner, hardwood laminate flooring in the kitchen, re-roofed the front part of the house, new hot water tank, rebuilt lawn mowers, rebuilt vacuum cleaners...you name it (and yes, the folks at Home Depot LOVE me, LOL!!!). Same goes for car repair...I'm really at the point that I rather hate working on cars (mostly because cars have changed so much over the years), but I'd still rather do it myself than pay someone else to do it.

...and I rewired my 40 year old 15' camper to run on 110 AND 12 volt (except for the AC, it's all interchangeable) and I've even hooked in a small solar panel system! Also fixed the propane lines and installed a new toilet......

And I can cook too 8) .

There's a few things I will send out...board level electronics for example...never really sat down to learn how to use my oscilloscope...some day. I know what resisters, capacitors, transducers, diodes, transformers and all that fun stuff is and I even have a good understanding of IC's and logic gates and such...and I can certainly remove and solder a resister, however troubleshooting that stuff...I just haven't taken the time to teach myself how to do it (yet). And yea, I did hire a painter to do the second story of my house a few years back...mainly because as I'm getting older, I'm terrified of falling off a ladder (uhg). Our next house is gonna be a ranch or a split level.....(don't get me started on realtors...it's half the reason my shorts have been in such a knot lately...).

That said, I'm just a hands-on kind of guy. Other than being a cheap old bastard, in most cases, I really do enjoy doing things myself. Ok...ok...re-roofing the house and installing the new carpet was a SERIOUS pain, but otherwise I really do enjoy building and repairing things. Paying someone for something silly like this just isn't an option in my book.

Anyways...


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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:08 pm
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@lomitus...

I feel ya' :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:08 pm
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This is seriously very easy..

Spend $2 on some dental floss. Tie a piece to the post. Tie 2 if you want. The pot should have a washer with teeth that bite into the wood. Slide the top washer through the dental floss to the body. Slide the nut through the dental floss to the body and hand tighten. Pull up on the dental floss. That will make the bottom washer bite into the wood as you tighten the nut with a wrench. It won't even take 5-minutes. I've done it many times, and it always works.

There is such a thing as over-thinking something, and this is one of them.

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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:08 am
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shred6 wrote:
There is such a thing as over-thinking something, and this is one of them.

Most of the posts above reply to the other section of the OP's question (" not sure how you're really supposed to get at anything on the inside of these bodies").

On the loose pot only, KidBlast's answer on page one usually works.


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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:23 pm
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I have wondered about that myself. Maybe there are special tools you can insert through the f-hole? Brain surgeon style?


I have a friend who literally uses surgical equipment for semi-hollowbody guitars. It's not the only thing he uses, but certain things like a dentist's mirror help.

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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:54 pm
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jmattis wrote:
shred6 wrote:
There is such a thing as over-thinking something, and this is one of them.

Most of the posts above reply to the other section of the OP's question (" not sure how you're really supposed to get at anything on the inside of these bodies").

On the loose pot only, KidBlast's answer on page one usually works.


Quick question, and I ask this with humility, why would you need to be getting all touchy freely in there? I Can't remember ever needing to do that for no reason. If I need to fix something ( pot, switch) I always tie it off first. There have been times where I needed to use a probe to pull things through the F-hole. A chopstick, or in some cases a metal kabob skewer (the metal ones can be bent to a desired shape). But they're always tied first, and when it comes time to pull something back, pull the strings.

I'll tell you this much. Working on an electric acoustic Ukulele is far more challenging. It'll test your patience immensely. Talk about a nightmare.

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Post subject: Re: Semi-hollows...how the devil do you work on them?
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:03 am
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shred6 wrote:
Quick question, and I ask this with humility, why would you need to be getting all touchy freely in there?


I guess for the most part it's really just my curious nature...I like taking things apart to see how and why they work. In the case of guitars particularly, it also gives me an idea of what to look for (or not look for) in future instruments. In other words, if I have something that sounds particularly great, I like to know why and if it sounds particularly sucky...I also like to know why (if no other reason to see if I can fix it). This is just my own opinion, but I truly feel that knowing and understanding why my guitars work, helps me to get the best sound out of them.

Since the Ibanez Artcore and this Eleca are my first semi-hollows...yea...I'm more than a bit curious about them. I've never really payed much attention to semi-hollows until recently, so this is breaking some new ground for me.


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I Can't remember ever needing to do that for no reason. If I need to fix something ( pot, switch) I always tie it off first. There have been times where I needed to use a probe to pull things through the F-hole. A chopstick, or in some cases a metal kabob skewer (the metal ones can be bent to a desired shape). But they're always tied first, and when it comes time to pull something back, pull the strings.


I'm gonna blame that on all the years I've spent playing Strats! LOL! When ever I have a pot come loose (not often), I just pull the pickguard and hold the pot while I'm tightening it...which also give me a change to inspect and clean things. When I first realized the Eleca had a couple of loose pots, I sat there looking at it wondering how you're supposed to get at them (hence the post and the tad bit of a rant there). Just seemed kind of stupid to me that there wasn't any kind of access cover on the back. One would think that a simple round access plate (like on my Ovation) would make things a lot easier to get at.

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I'll tell you this much. Working on an electric acoustic Ukulele is far more challenging. It'll test your patience immensely. Talk about a nightmare.


I don't doubt that for a moment. I suspect that a lot of acoustic/electric mandolins would be a similar pain.


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