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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:20 am
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[size=150]http://www.tpggrowth.com/portfolio.php ). Just remember the next time you eat a Whopper at Burger King, you are shoring up the Fender Guitar company!


Need any strings with those fries???

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:52 am
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[size=150]http://www.tpggrowth.com/portfolio.php ). Just remember the next time you eat a Whopper at Burger King, you are shoring up the Fender Guitar company!


Need any strings with those fries???

LOL! Do you want fries with that! Tim McGraw's tune fits pretty well. Some older people who get booted out of there work just a few years before retirement end up flipping burgers, or sitting at the door at Wallmart. Hard to find a decent job when one is 60. Hey if you ride a Ducati or are getting suits for your kid's wedding at Dave's Bridal, again you are investing in Fender!

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:57 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
Great post, Mr X!!!
Tammy seems to change jobs kind of often:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/2 ... Promotions

Likely as fast as she changes her underwear.....for obvious reasons. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
One wonders about people like that. Where's their moral compass. Like f'rinstance, the White House and Department of State Press Secretaries. At what point does integrity trump ideology of personal gain, if ever?

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:01 am
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Soooooo ....
If Brad and Rob are both gone who's running the show around here?

That been confirmed where Brad is concerned or are we simply massaging a missing persons bulletin?

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:11 am
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Where the faithful are concerned, one can certainly see where people like Paul Reed Smith and Randall Smith, no relation except for industry, have maintained small, high quality boutique operations with products of high reputation and are still going strong. PRS, in fact, venturing into a moderate priced line, made in USA, as well as a carefully quality controlled, Korean-built line. Bill Schultz and company likely missed the boat by not doing that. Stay true to the product and keep the 'bulls and the bears' out of that zoo.

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:40 am
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Some older people who get booted out of there work just a few years before retirement end up flipping burgers........................

Today's smartphonistas seem to know everything that was wrong with the generations which preceded them, and have set upon themselves the task of making it all right again. Exemplified as such, by the current administration, and what proports to be wanting to succeed it. They had best steel themselves for the feeding frenzy to come in which they eat each other alive, struggling to remain heads above water, in a cesspool wherein some future 'ubberalleskommandant' drives around them in a speedboat, making waves.

'Also sprach Zarathusra!"

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:56 pm
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Interesting reading. The State Of Fender from TPG's veiwpoint:

http://www.tpggrowth.com/news/2014/20140201-state-of-fender.php

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:17 pm
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Xhefri wrote:
Some older people who get booted out of there work just a few years before retirement end up flipping burgers........................

Today's smartphonistas seem to know everything that was wrong with the generations which preceded them, and have set upon themselves the task of making it all right again. Exemplified as such, by the current administration, and what proports to be wanting to succeed it. They had best steel themselves for the feeding frenzy to come in which they eat each other alive, struggling to remain heads above water, in a cesspool wherein some future 'ubberalleskommandant' drives around them in a speedboat, making waves.

'Also sprach Zarathusra!"


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It's ironic that so many "too big to fail" stalwarts of American business have found themselves flushed down the terlet in this burgeoning global economy that the new world order has foisted upon us. Circuit City, Radio Shack, Best Buy, even Sears now have felt the bite of the collapsing industrial pyramid created by Gen-X MBA's who have no allegiance to the corporations they now shepherd. When the bell ultimately tolls for them I hope they enjoy the $hit sandwich they shoved down everyone else's throat.

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:25 pm
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Interesting reading. The State Of Fender from TPG's veiwpoint:

http://www.tpggrowth.com/news/2014/20140201-state-of-fender.php

This is 12 mos old and likely written well before its publication date. Reminds of some rattlings around the same time of year...about ISIS being a JV team, and the success of US policy in Yemen. Interesting what a year can bring. :lol:

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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:07 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
Soooooo ....
If Brad and Rob are both gone who's running the show around here?

That been confirmed where Brad is concerned or are we simply massaging a missing persons bulletin?


I believe that Brad is still Director of Web Development and could
be wearing a few other hats as well by now...

...if not, I think this thread would have vanished by now.

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:41 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
Xhefri wrote:
Interesting reading. The State Of Fender from TPG's veiwpoint:

http://www.tpggrowth.com/news/2014/20140201-state-of-fender.php

This is 12 mos old and likely written well before its publication date. Reminds of some rattlings around the same time of year...about ISIS being a JV team, and the success of US policy in Yemen. Interesting what a year can bring. :lol:


This article is brutal in such a way that I could not hope to explain correctly. We can't touch those skills brothers and sisters.
Brad is our hero, he created this community. So because we love him and he helps you we'll help you who are in the drivers seat now too.
Here is something to toss around the table:
Little Wing, That'll Be The Day, Pride And Joy, actually most of the love songs from those guitarists and many more famous Stratocaster players are unique. While it is true you can play a love song on any guitar and it would be beautiful the fact is if you want it to sing just right it must be played on a Fender solid body electric guitar or electric bass guitar, a solid body love song. Please remember Brad and us and you can be sure that we will remember all of you. Thank you Brad and your colleagues for being here.

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:59 am
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This article is brutal in such a way that I could not hope to explain correctly. A metaphor so gargantuan that one would need heavy industrial sized earth movers to move that pile of BS around. We can't touch those skills brothers and sisters.

......Ditto....in particular, the current status of Larry Thomas, late of Fender AND Guitar Center. Borrowing a line from the motion picture 'The Betsy"........"it's the guitar", dudes..."the guitar''. If it isn't, then go soak your money in something like 'Twinkies' and give us back our FMIC.

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:19 am
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Just wondering, what exactly are the points you two take issue with in this article written for TPG? Flush out the issues so they are clear for all of us. They try to depict the CEO as a guitar playing person who is passionate about Fender guitars and the industry. They explain Fender is trying to meet the needs of the vintage consumer as well as the newer digital culture. So what is wrong with the article, per se? :twisted: That Fender has to try to get its moral level back up and modify its marketing strategies. So the problems, as you see them, are???

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
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Fender isn't trying to meet the needs of the vintage consumer. Fender doesn't even know where they came from. It can legitimately be argued that the biggest thing Leo did was create the Precision. No matter how much guitarists like to believe otherwise. Yet right now the bass that is getting the biggest push at Fender is a knock off of a Gibson (which wasn't even a good bass to begin with) which says more than anything that I could ever say about this company, it's leadership, and their understanding of what made this company great.

Over 30 years and we can't get a Vintage Correct Single Coil Precision added to the American Vintage line, but we have 3 tiers of Gibson knock offs. This company still makes good instruments, but that isn't because of the leadership. It's in spite of it. Any credit this company is due from someone like me is due to those gone employees we are discussing and those still hanging on. FMIC is the new CBS. I've been saying it for years. It's just now starting to make the guitarists uncomfortable. Any vintage Fender Bass devotee should have seen the writing on the wall over a decade ago. Now it's starting to seep into the guitar lines. Where things that are sold as Vintage are just vintage looking modern knock offs.

Cheap imitations, and throw away digital toys? There are countless companies that do that. Some better, most cheaper. However, Fender should concentrate being the best Fender they can be. Not the best imitation of companies that were built on imitating them. It's sad. Fender should be the place you can go to get a Fender built the way it's supposed to be built.

FMIC thinks that the love of Vintage Fender is leaving with the Baby Boomers, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. Their children were raised on records made with those instruments, and many of us still gravitate to those sounds. We create music, listen to records, and have children. Those songs, and sounds will be passed down. Trading that legacy for a quick buck turned on cheap junk is a mistake, and it will cost them dearly. Because another few years of this and there will be no difference between Fender and any other modern guitar company.

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Post subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE OLDER EMPLOYEES AT FENDER?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:26 am
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Fender isn't trying to meet the needs of the vintage consumer. Fender doesn't even know where they came from. It can legitimately be argued that the biggest thing Leo did was create the Precision. No matter how much guitarists like to believe otherwise.

Do you have to try to turn every fripping thread into one about vintage basses? It gets tiresome.


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