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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:18 am
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I was just thinking about this question.

The answer I came up with was that the giant herd of guitars is simply the result of trying to find the right guitar for me. After a while, you see which ones get played most, which are the most fun to play, which work the best in YOUR hands, and which ones merely sit there collecting dust. THEN comes the decision to cull the herd, or to keep the "others" as a collection.

I'm just reaching the latter stage. The problem is, the selling market is frought with peril- the stores that take trade ins or buy used gear need to resell it, thus they can't pay you what it's worth. The private second hand market is where the aggressive flippers, cheapskates, and haggle-a-discount-out-of -you-at-all-costs types thrive, and thus they WON'T pay you what it's worth. With lower end gear, it's hardly worth the effort.

The end result of that is an ever expanding pile of gear.

I have no explanation for the practice of constantly buying and selling stuff. Perhaps THAT is the real fun for some?

It took me a few years to find MY guitars. The rest are just there, you know? It certainly doesn't help that some just get you right off, while others grow on you. The latter often end up being your favorites.


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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:58 am
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Don't get me started on amps. This is from about 3 years ago. Net, I think I have about 2 more now.Image


Brian:

Nice!
Can you spell C-H-I-R-O-P-R-A-C-T-O-R? :lol:


Haha, if you look carefully, all the big cabs have casters.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:52 pm
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Brian Krashpad wrote:
Fender Strat Brat wrote:
Brian Krashpad wrote:
Don't get me started on amps. This is from about 3 years ago. Net, I think I have about 2 more now.Image


Brian:

Nice!
Can you spell C-H-I-R-O-P-R-A-C-T-O-R? :lol:


Haha, if you look carefully, all the big cabs have casters.

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Great! Uum . . . Could you wheel 'em my way? :lol: Love your Kustom.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 8:45 am
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A lot of good posts here!

For me; I have 5 electrics, and 2 acoustics.

My 85' Harmony does not get played any more...but there is no way I can ever get rid of it. It was my first electric guitar, and the one I taught myself to play on.

My 88' Kay does not get played any more...but there is no way I can ever get rid of it. It was my first acoustic guitar.

That covers my "sentimental" issues.

I don't even like my American Strat, and I don't play it much....in fact, hardly ever....but I keep it, just to have a MIA Strat. Probably a silly reason I know. I would definitely consider trading it for an American Strat with a maple fretboard...because the rosewood is the biggest reason why I don't 'feel' much love for it. I even switched out the HSS loaded pick guard that it came with, for a SSS one with Custom Shop Texas Specials...because I THOUGHT that's what I didn't like about it---but it wasn't. I am not married to this Strat...but I will keep it until another MIA falls in my lap.

My MIM Strat is by far my favorite. It is my "go to", and gets played 95% of the time I pick up a guitar. I would NEVER in a million years get rid of it. In fact I love it so much, that I am selling my Squire Standard Tele w/Bigsby in order to buy another just like it (only a different color) as a 'back-up' guitar. The reason the Tele is getting sold is because I don't like the feel any more, and it was basically a project guitar any way---I am a Strat guy I have found.

Since I retired the Kay acoustic...I had to get one that I can play...so the CD-60 provides that...and quite nicely I might add.

Last but not least, I have a Squire Bullet. I got it for $99.00 just for a project guitar. Fell in love with the rosewood fretboard (and I don't usually like anything but maple on electrics)---it is the only rosewood I have played on that has the feel and speed of maple to me. Don't know why. It is strange.
I stripped the pink....yes, I said pink, paint job, and painted it Seafoam Green, which looks more gray than anything (beautiful). I pulled the cheap loaded pickgaurd out of it, and am installing the HSS loaded pickgaurd out of my MIA Strat in it. Everything is done except to drill the new screw holes for the pickgaurd, and solder the in-put jack. I am both busy and lazy...so this project has taken a LOT longer than it should have.
This Bullet will be the only HSS guitar I care to own.

I can NEVER say that once the Tele is sold, and the back-up MIM Strat is purchased, or that when I find someone to trade my MIA with rosewood for a MIA with maple that I will be done buying guitars...but I can safely say I will have all the guitars I NEED.


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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:24 pm
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yodacaster wrote:
I have 9 guitars and 1 bass. I get the reasoning why people have so many, but I honestly think that the whole different tool for a different job is kind of a cop out answer.
There are really only 3 guitars a player needs. Single coils, humbuckers and an acoustic. We can add a bass for those who like the low end thump.
Nobody in the audience, unless they are a gear head, will notice that you used a Strat instead of an SG for an AC/DC song. They don't care you played Jimi Hendrix tune on a Les Paul.
The only people we are pleasing is ourselves. We love guitars and we want guitars. That is the only reason people have so many.


Can't argue with your logic but some of us like to stay in denial. Otherwise we would walk away from a bunch of guitars that we run across and just have to buy.


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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:48 pm
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So, has anyone been guitar shopping recently? :P

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:57 am
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shimmilou wrote:
You forgot P90s....and there are different flavors of single-coil and hum-bucker.....and different neck shapes.....different radii.......then there are 12-string......yeah, three ain't gonna cut it. :lol:


I'll give you the P90s and I thought of a 12 string, but kind of lumped that in with acoustic.
Different flavours of single coils are still single coils (slight exception for the P90's). Neck shapes and radii are not going to affect the sound of a song so I rule those out.
so in a revised list, all you need are 6 guitars, but I still think its overkill for what you need.
Anything above and beyond that is a matter of want.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 7:59 am
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The only legitimate use for multple guitars besides the pick ups, would be for alternate tunings.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:06 am
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lomitus wrote:
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There are really only 3 guitars a player needs. Single coils, humbuckers and an acoustic. We can add a bass for those who like the low end thump.


Ok...so in your mind ALL guitars with single coils, Strat or otherwise, all sound and feel all the same? All guitars with humbuckers sound and feel the same? All acoustics are the same????


REALLY??????

Wow...

It seems to me that one of the biggest reasons so many people change their pickups in something like a Strat (including myself) is so they can change how the guitar sounds. -If- all single coil instruments did indeed sound the same (and played the same), there wouldn't be any need for so many different models, let alone aftermarket pickups and such. Fender would just make a "Telecaster" (they never would have bothered with Strats), Gibson would just make a Les Paul and the majority of other brands out there wouldn't even exist.

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Nobody in the audience, unless they are a gear head, will notice that you used a Strat instead of an SG for an AC/DC song. They don't care you played Jimi Hendrix tune on a Les Paul.


While I do generally agree with this (and have said as much myself many times), could it also not be argued that I might play a bit better if I'm using a specific guitar with a specific tone on a specific tune? In other words, if I were using that Strat to do an AC/DC tune and -I- as the person playing that tune was unhappy with the tone, would that not effect my playing? And if it affects my playing, wouldn't the audience notice that?

There are in fact certain guitars I prefer to use for certain material and while this may indeed be a rationalization, if I, myself, as the person playing that tune, likes the sound of that guitar on that tune, then why should that be a problem?

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I believe there is indeed something of a symbiotic relationship between musician and audience. If I'm not pleased as the person playing, then there's a better chance my audience won't be either.

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Ok...I will admit that to some small degree I have been playing devil's advocate here, however...

In this case I would (loosely) borrow the wine analogy recently used in another thread. Just as there are many people who honestly wouldn't know a 1955 Dom Perignon Brut at $1000+ a bottle from a $10 bottle of "Cold Duck" or even a $5 bottle of Irish Rose (in these parts, we call them "drunks"! LOL!), there are certainly people out there who honestly wouldn't know the differences between one guitar and another. Until the day he passed away, my father, who was in fact a great music lover, had a son who was a guitar player, yet Dad would not have known the difference between a Strat, a Tele and a Les Paul, let alone anything more "exotic"...even though there were several of these instruments in his own home until I moved out (although Dad's reaction to the continued use of vacuum tubes in guitar amps was priceless! LOL!). Even my brother doesn't understand the difference between an electric and an acoustic...to him it's "a guitar"...and aside from having a brother who's a guitar player, he's also married to a music teacher!

Like a connoisseur of fine wines, there are those of us who can indeed appreciate and enjoy the subtle nuances between instruments - even when you have two instruments of the same make/model (such as Strats). Just as no two brands or vintages of wine may taste the same and some vintages and some brands are often better than others to those "in the know", guitars are often quite different from one to the next...some sit well on the pallet, others just turn to vinegar (or were vinegar to start with). That said however, even though a wine connoisseur may prefer a '96 Cabernet Sauvignon with a good steak, this doesn't mean they can't still enjoy an '07 as well. Likewise, just because I prefer my '96 Strat doesn't mean I don't still enjoy my '07. In this case one doesn't even need to be a collector...it's just a matter of having a "refined pallet" to appreciate the differences.

So instead of thinking of me as someone who has "a lot of guitars", in this case let's just say I've put down a nice cellar 8) .


I am not a huge tone seeker. I can find a tone I like with almost any combo of gear I use, and most times, I still sound like myself. I don't need the 10 guitars I have. I owned 1 guitar, 1 amp and 2 pedals for years. I gigged with the same gear for 5 years. It is only in recent years that I have started to aquire more gear, and quite honestly I do not need all of it. I think for most of the tone seekers trying to find that grail sound, it is more about the quest than the end result.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
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Of course now they have those automatic tuning systems where you don't even have to do that.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:12 am
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yodacaster wrote:
The only legitimate use for multple guitars besides the pick ups, would be for alternate tunings.


REALLY... ??? Did you just write that... ??? :shock: :shock: :shock:

How 'bout simply:

Because I want them... I can afford them, and neither my lifestyle, or the lifestyle of those around me, suffers any ill effects whatever because of my choice?

Sounds pretty legitimate to me... 8)

This thread seems in danger of having some nasty Haves & Have Nots undercurrents to it... :roll:

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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:14 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
yodacaster wrote:
The only legitimate use for multple guitars besides the pick ups, would be for alternate tunings.


REALLY... ??? Did you just write that... ??? :shock: :shock: :shock:

How 'bout simply:

Because I want them... I can afford them, and neither my lifestyle, or the lifestyle of those around me, suffers any ill effects because of my choice?

Sounds pretty legitimate to me... 8)

This thread seems in danger of having some nasty Haves & Have Nots undercurrents to it... :roll:

cheers!


I already commented about the wants a page or two back. what you want and what you need are two totally different things.

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:28 am
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yodacaster wrote:
Lightnin MN wrote:
REALLY... ??? Did you just write that... ??? :shock: :shock: :shock:

How 'bout simply:

Because I want them... I can afford them, and neither my lifestyle, or the lifestyle of those around me, suffers any ill effects because of my choice?

Sounds pretty legitimate to me... 8)

This thread seems in danger of having some nasty Haves & Have Nots undercurrents to it... :roll:

cheers!


I already commented about the wants a page or two back. what you want and what you need are two totally different things.


Well your citing alternate tunings as the only legitimate reason to own multiple guitars seem to call your sincerity in your post a page back into question.

Please don't try to decide for me what it is I want or need. I think that after circling the Sun some 60+ times, I've pretty much got that down on my own, for better or worse.

I've no problem whatever with you making that call for yourself, but please keep my choices out of it... :)

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Post subject: Re: Why so many guitars?
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:39 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
yodacaster wrote:
Lightnin MN wrote:
REALLY... ??? Did you just write that... ??? :shock: :shock: :shock:

How 'bout simply:

Because I want them... I can afford them, and neither my lifestyle, or the lifestyle of those around me, suffers any ill effects because of my choice?

Sounds pretty legitimate to me... 8)

This thread seems in danger of having some nasty Haves & Have Nots undercurrents to it... :roll:

cheers!


I already commented about the wants a page or two back. what you want and what you need are two totally different things.


Well your citing alternate tunings as the only legitimate reason to own multiple guitars seem to call your sincerity in your post a page back into question.

Please don't try to decide for me what it is I want or need. I think that after circling the Sun some 60+ times, I've pretty much got that down on my own, for better or worse.

I've no problem whatever with you making that call for yourself, but please keep my choices out of it... :)

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Hmmm? I don't recall telling you personally what you need. I have items that I wanted, that I do not need.
I am just adding my opinion to the thread, like everyone else.
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