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Post subject: Old Fender leather hardcase 50s-60s? Expert help needed!
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:35 pm
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Hello!

I just received what seems to be a really old fender case with my 70s original Blonde See through Fender Telecaster. I've been searching the web about this case but can't find a single thing about it. Anyone with some info about this perhaps? It has the Fender (r) logo with "Made in USA" below. The whole case is covered in soft brown leather and there are no logos/marks on the locks.

It's the nicest case I've ever came across and I would love to learn more about it!

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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:50 pm
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Cool guitar case GB, welcome to the Forum.
Here is a link to start with
http://www.fender.com/contact-us

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Post subject: Re: Old Fender leather hardcase 50s-60s? Expert help needed!
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:01 am
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Do not look a Fender case to me ,if it is , it is not the one came with a '70 Guitar .

Fender logo look the wrong one. Close up will help


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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:53 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Do not look a Fender case to me ,if it is , it is not the one came with a '70 Guitar .

Fender logo look the wrong one. Close up will help


+1 It's not a Fender Case.

'70's Fender Case Logos were not tailless. It was likely glued on by the PO.

Here's a link to an authentic, period correct case for those model years:

Fender early '70s Case

The upside is that it looks to be better quality than the Fender Cases of the era.

Cool Find !

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Post subject: Re: Old Fender leather hardcase 50s-60s? Expert help needed!
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:39 pm
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The logo is a Fender '70 area , case is not IMO a Fender so the logo don't fit with the case.


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Post subject: Re: Old Fender leather hardcase 50s-60s? Expert help needed!
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:18 am
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It could very well be a UK Fender case, made by Jennings. These have no leather ends, and most of the logos are without the tail. And yes, one of them even says "Made in USA", which refers to the guitar, not the case, and would time the case to the latter half of the 1970s.

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Post subject: Re: Old Fender leather hardcase 50s-60s? Expert help needed!
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:01 am
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arth1 wrote:
It could very well be a UK Fender case, made by Jennings. These have no leather ends, and most of the logos are without the tail. And yes, one of them even says "Made in USA", which refers to the guitar, not the case, and would time the case to the latter half of the 1970s.

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True Dat...

Except we're talking about an early '70s Strat here... :roll: :roll:

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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:35 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:
True Dat...

Except we're talking about an early '70s Strat here... :roll: :roll:

Are we? Where did the OP say anything about early? All I see is 70s.


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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:45 am
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Well that case is NOT a Fender case, especially if "Jennings" made or supplied it! Duh!

This case looks like a nice one and may even be the original case that was bought with the guitar, but that logo was not on the case originally...And Fender would probably not be happy with Jennings (or anyone else) using their logo on their case! Sorry arth1, but that was a stretch too far!

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T2Stratman wrote:
Well that case is NOT a Fender case, especially if "Jennings" made or supplied it! Duh!

+1

This case looks like a nice one and may even be the original case that was bought with the guitar, but that logo was not on the case originally.

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We can't said ; Fender '70 Guitar with original case .


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Post subject: Re: Old Fender leather hardcase 50s-60s? Expert help needed!
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:26 am
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Certainly easy to see where SKB jumped off from for its aftermarket cases. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery......except in the trademark universe. Personally, I prefer NOT to have product logos on my guitar cases and will carry the instrument in a generic case if on a public conveyance.

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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:44 am
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T2Stratman wrote:
Well that case is NOT a Fender case, especially if "Jennings" made or supplied it! Duh!

This case looks like a nice one and may even be the original case that was bought with the guitar, but that logo was not on the case originally...And Fender would probably not be happy with Jennings (or anyone else) using their logo on their case! Sorry arth1, but that was a stretch too far!


Your jab here hurts you more than me, I'm afraid. You clearly don't get how Fender operates.
Fender had Jennings (a British company) make cases for the Fender guitars sold in UK and parts of Europe.
Fender is not a guitar case manufacturer, and when they have a third party make the cases and put a Fender logo on them, that's perfectly legitimate. It's what Fender does, also here in the US.

The Jennings cases with a Fender logo on them are perfectly legitimate Fender cases, just as much as a G&G case with a Fender logo on it. Different contractor, different countries, different cases. But still genuine Fender.

Get it now?

That out of the way, this case may or may not be a valid Jennings-made Fender case. The logo seems to be consistent with a late 70s Fender UK case. It certainly isn't a genuine US-made Fender case, but that doesn't imply that it isn't a genuine Fender case.
Perhaps some of the readers in the UK can chime in - do any of you have a 70s Jennings made case, and can compare?

Edit: Checking the original poster on a different forum, he's in Sweden, so the probability of it being a European case seems very high.

Without any more information, I am inclined to believe that this is a legit late 70s Fender UK case, and probably the original for his 70s guitar.


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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:49 pm
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arth1 wrote:
You clearly don't get how Fender operates.....

I wouldn't be so quick to draw that conclusion with respect to our esteemed colleague. There was a time, back in the distant past of 'yours truly' when a Fender guitar case was a 'violin case' design which soone gave way to a 'tweed rectangle', and that's all there was. Over the years there evolved the combinations and permutations to the present. From this observation post, there's no way in heaven that I would ever expect to see anything along the lines of what the OP presented and assume that it was an 'original' Fender case of any stripe. In fact, the first departure from the 'usual and customary' that I can remember was a return to the 'violin case' design which Fender had SKB produce for the then new line of Plus series guitars back in the late '80's. FMIC has literally driven people dizzy across the decades in its attempts to reinvent itself with logo variations, amp and case wrappings, grill covers, face plates, knobs, headstocks, as well as a constellation of product variants from offshore branches, enough to boggle the mind. But that's why we're all here, isn't it.

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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:16 pm
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Arth if you really think your right about this case you go with it. But I must point out that I have spent 11 years total living as a part time working musician and am quite familiar with Fenders offerings in both Germany and England, and all the "Jennings" cases I have seen while there had "Jennings" labels on them, NOT Fender, but what the hell would I know? I stand by my statement that the logo did not come from the factory with that logo.

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Arth if you really think your right about this case you go with it. But I must point out that I have spent 11 years total living as a part time working musician and am quite familiar with Fenders offerings in both Germany and England, and all the "Jennings" cases I have seen while there had "Jennings" labels on them, NOT Fender, but what the hell would I know? I stand by my statement that the logo did not come from the factory with that logo.

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You may or may not be wrong in that. I certainly don't have enough information to make that call. But I do know that not all square Fender cases look like the ones we are used to in North America, and don't use the same logos as Fender NA used (not that Fender here has been consistent either), so it should not be dismissed based on that.
There could be other reasons to dismiss it, but none have surfaced here. They all boil down to "this isn't a US case", which is fairly obvious, with the conclusion "thus is is not original", which does not follow.

However, "And Fender would probably not be happy with Jennings (or anyone else) using their logo on their case!" is patently false. They paid Jennings to do precisely that for quite a long time, and would probably have been unhappy if Jennings did not put a Fender logo on the cases.

It was probably cheaper to ship just the guitars, and buy Fender branded cases in the UK, as opposed to shipping them from the US. Shipping costs, high duties on luggage, ability to service - whatever the reason, it must have made economical sense.


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