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Post subject: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:18 am
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These look like a great idea. Invented by Chris Broderick, who played in Megadeth, it's like a thumbpick but it has a clip so that you clip in your own brand of pick. I'm thinking of getting one. The thumbpicks i use just now are Herco's and they're great. But when shred picking in practice, the plastic get's a rough egde on it and doesn't wear down nice and smoothly like my previous tortex picks.

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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:30 am
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Damn, that dude's fast.

It certainly is a better idea than regular thumb picks. I tried them before, but he's right, regular thumb picks are usually long. I hated that. I'd be inclined to give one of these a try. I'm always down for new ideas like that.

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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:44 am
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Yeah shred, the great thing about them is you just clip in your normal pick and it pretty much is the same as normal but your hand is freed up to do other things. For me the Herco picks are good but the type of plastic it's made of doesn't wear well when you're doing speed picking in practice sessions. The edges get little gouges and you have to file them smooth after a while. The tortex picks i used before would wear very slowly and smoothly with no sharp edges. So this is what's making me consider trying them. Basically a tortex pick last forever, unless you lose it! :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:42 pm
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Looks like you have to pinch this one with your first finger, in which case I don't see the point at all. What good is a thumb pick if it doesn't free up your first finger for picking?


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:28 pm
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The first point is you won't drop the pick. The main point is you have somewhere to hold the pick when the fingers are doing ... um ...finger-taps.
Do people really still play like that? :lol: made me cringe 30 years ago, still does.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:17 pm
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arth1 wrote:
Looks like you have to pinch this one with your first finger, in which case I don't see the point at all. What good is a thumb pick if it doesn't free up your first finger for picking?

No you don't have to do that. You hold it like a regular flatpick but just let go of it and then you can fingerpick or tap. You can do that with a regular thumbpick but this uses your existing flatpick that you're used to.


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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:46 pm
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GorgonIsBack wrote:
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Looks like you have to pinch this one with your first finger, in which case I don't see the point at all. What good is a thumb pick if it doesn't free up your first finger for picking?

No you don't have to do that. You hold it like a regular flatpick but just let go of it and then you can fingerpick or tap. You can do that with a regular thumbpick but this uses your existing flatpick that you're used to.


I don't get it. How can you use this to pick strings with the thumb pick and the first finger at the same time, like you can with a regular thumb pick? If you can't, it's not really a thumb pick, but just an automatic pick holder for when you don't use the pick, no?


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:14 pm
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arth1 wrote:
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arth1 wrote:
Looks like you have to pinch this one with your first finger, in which case I don't see the point at all. What good is a thumb pick if it doesn't free up your first finger for picking?

No you don't have to do that. You hold it like a regular flatpick but just let go of it and then you can fingerpick or tap. You can do that with a regular thumbpick but this uses your existing flatpick that you're used to.


I don't get it. How can you use this to pick strings with the thumb pick and the first finger at the same time, like you can with a regular thumb pick? If you can't, it's not really a thumb pick, but just an automatic pick holder for when you don't use the pick, no?

Don't understand what you're talking about here. Pick strings with the thumbpick and your first finger at the same time? What like Scotty Anderson who does that on his tele with a thumbpick? Anyway you can do everything with this that you can do with a normal thumbpick but because it's your flatpick it's a much better feel so they say.


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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:30 pm
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Turn your favourite flat pick into a thumb pick. I'd give it a go.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:27 pm
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GorgonIsBack, watched the entire video and Chris Broderick is as fast as Yngwie or Michael Batio, amazing. Having the patent on that piece of gear could generate some drachmas lol. Thanks for posting.

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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:47 pm
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GorgonIsBack, watched the entire video and Chris Broderick is as fast as Yngwie or Michael Batio, amazing. Having the patent on that piece of gear could generate some drachmas lol. Thanks for posting.

He's incredible. I had never really heard his playing before. Seems a pretty intelligent guy and really knows his stuff.


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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:10 pm
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Chris Broderick is amazing.

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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
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GorgonIsBack wrote:
Don't understand what you're talking about here. Pick strings with the thumbpick and your first finger at the same time? What like Scotty Anderson who does that on his tele with a thumbpick? Anyway you can do everything with this that you can do with a normal thumbpick but because it's your flatpick it's a much better feel so they say.

Like pretty much everyone who uses a thumb pick. The idea is that it becomes a part of your finger, like if you had a nail sticking to the side, and won't come off even if you pick hard. I can't see this one staying in place except for extremely light picking unless you help holding it in place using your index finger like a normal pick.

I can see people wanting a thumb pick that feels more like the pick they're used to, but then the obvious solution is to get a thumb pick that is more like the ones they're used to. Ernie Ball picks are thinner and more flexible than Fender celluloid picks. But there are dozens of brands, and they generally have one thing in common - they're well secured to your thumb, and it takes several pounds of force to dislodge them. And yes, you can get them in flat pick shape too:
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Again, I think this is a solution looking for a problem, at a price that will buy you a jar full of picks.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:40 am
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arth1 wrote:
GorgonIsBack wrote:
Don't understand what you're talking about here. Pick strings with the thumbpick and your first finger at the same time? What like Scotty Anderson who does that on his tele with a thumbpick? Anyway you can do everything with this that you can do with a normal thumbpick but because it's your flatpick it's a much better feel so they say.

Like pretty much everyone who uses a thumb pick. The idea is that it becomes a part of your finger, like if you had a nail sticking to the side, and won't come off even if you pick hard. I can't see this one staying in place except for extremely light picking unless you help holding it in place using your index finger like a normal pick.

I can see people wanting a thumb pick that feels more like the pick they're used to, but then the obvious solution is to get a thumb pick that is more like the ones they're used to. Ernie Ball picks are thinner and more flexible than Fender celluloid picks. But there are dozens of brands, and they generally have one thing in common - they're well secured to your thumb, and it takes several pounds of force to dislodge them. And yes, you can get them in flat pick shape too:
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Again, I think this is a solution looking for a problem, at a price that will buy you a jar full of picks.

Arth, those Herco's are what i use now! I really like them apart from the way they wear under intense picking in practice.

The clip one's are held in pretty firmly with that clip snap. You actually have to snap them into place. There's another video up on YT of someone fitting a pick in and using it. Also there are a couple or three little spikes that dig into the pick to also help keep it in place.

I don't have one so can't comment personally on how good it is but it seems a good idea. The problems with most thumbpicks is they don't feel all that good for flatpicking (the Herco's above excepted). Sonny Landreth also uses these kinds of picks (not the clip ones, the Herco type ones shaped like a flatpick i mean) I remember him saying he gets them from some Japanese manufacturer. He used to use Herco's i think before that.


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Post subject: Re: Anyone Tried These?
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:24 am
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Such a device serves no purpose for me and would actually be a hinderance since I tend to vary the angle and rotational orientation of a plectrum in my fingers, striking the strings in various ways for effect. Locking it in one place and in particular one length of "stick-out" would be counterproductive to me.

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