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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:19 am
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I used to be a huge fan of the Digitech RP series , most notably the RP-50 but over the last couple of years, I now prefer just playing straight into the amp without any effects at all.


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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:51 pm
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In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with digital effects, as long as they do their own thing and don't try to mimic an analog effect - then it's almost always audibly worse.

I have a couple of digital pedals that really do something analog pedals cannot do.
The "Ethereal" effects of the TC Electronics Trinity pedal comes to mind. And, of course, special effects like the Korg Miku Stomp.
Yet I have scrapped two other TC Electronics pedals because they sounded too harsh (a distortion pedal and a chorus pedal). And I haven't been impressed with the digital effects in Mustang amps either.

So in my view, it's all about what you want to achieve. Analog can sound a lot smoother, but digital can do things analog can't.


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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:30 pm
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I love effects as much as I love not having any at all. The sound of my guitar going direct into my amp is what I cherish the most, but I can't do without some effects. So my rig has been painstakingly setup so that my analog and digital effects have minimal impact on my dry signal.

So try what you can and buy what you can afford, you will rarely stick to one sound throughout your lifetime of music, experiment with it all to find your own happiness.

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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:53 am
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What do you think about using digital effects
Not a fan. Never have been, never will be.
I DO like my Ultimate Chorus amp so much, that I asked Santa for a Fender Chorus pedal to try on my DeVille. But that's where any "effects" end in my world.


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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:40 am
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captainc wrote:
Nick Le Zens wrote:
I bought my old Boss Gt-6 from new, at first i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but the convenience of storing presets as opposed to manual twiddling of knobs is a bonus, i prefere the sounds of individual pedals though. I just bought a Mustang III amp, and if the Floor version is just as good, this is the way to go. The Mustang series modeling knocks spots off anything in its price rannge for sound and quality. It all depends on the sound you are after, we are all different.

I’m totally with you on this.

I too got a GT6 years ago and had a blast with it and was very proficient with it. Then I got an amazon giftcard from work so on a whim got a Mustang II v.2 just to have a little practice amp. The GT6 was immediately kicked to the curb. Now I’m kicking myself for not selling the GT6 first and going with the Mustang III for the LCD screen and footswitch options. Still love my Mustang II but I also have a couple dirt pedals in front of it to augment the limitation of the single button switch. The Fuzz stomp on the mustang isn’t something to write home about but most MultiFx units lack in the Fuzz department anyway IMO. I think that’s definitely one pedal that’s’ best left to real life Transistors and Caps.


+1 You can also build a Fuzz really, really cheap too. Nothing beats the real deal IMO. I've built a half dozen or so Fuzz Boxes and the all sound different and unique. But the biggest thing is, and it was mentioned before, is when a multi effect pedal goes down, unless you have a pre-programmed spare, you're done. All your effects are gone.

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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:34 pm
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I agree with 63supro....

If you are handy with a soldering iron and have a basic concept/understanding of components (i.e. resistors, capacitors, transistors, etc...) it is a lot of fun to custom build your own analog pedal from a kit. No fancy LCD screen displays and menu buttons and massive circuit boards/CPU processing power.

Let me give a little plug to that online company called BYOC (Build Your Own Clone). They sell every flavor of effect pedal in a simple kit. You just solder the appropriate components into the right spots, and basically put it all together in the included pedal enclosure.

www.buildyourownclone.com

About 3 years ago, I bought their "Classic Overdrive" pedal kit that was the clone of the famous Ibanez Tube Screamer TS-808. It is an excellent pedal and works like a charm! If I can build one without any trouble, anyone can! 8)


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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:38 pm
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I used a Zoom 505 for a couple years as it worked great for doing classic rock when jumping from Boston to a Cars tunes, great flexibility. It gave a good approximation of the effects, but it never seemed to get along with my Wah Wah pedal. No matter the order I never really loved the tone.

I have since gone back to simple to just the Wah Wah, a boost pedal, a stereo chorus (that seems to get less and less use) and my polyphonic tuner. I am much happier with my tone that has very little color much above plugging straight in to the amp.

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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:55 pm
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I've never got the whole clone thing. Why not try to make something different, instead of an imperfect approximation of something? It's like buying Happy Cola and Dr. Skipper.


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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:39 pm
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Nick Le Zens wrote:
I bought my old Boss Gt-6 from new, at first i thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but the convenience of storing presets as opposed to manual twiddling of knobs is a bonus, i prefere the sounds of individual pedals though. I just bought a Mustang III amp, and if the Floor version is just as good, this is the way to go. The Mustang series modeling knocks spots off anything in its price rannge for sound and quality. It all depends on the sound you are after, we are all different.

I also have a Boss GT-6 but it hasn't seen the outside of its box for over a year now. Reason being that I mainly play with headphones and a V-Amp2 or my iOS apps. The GT-6 has great effects, but the amp modeling sounds very processed. In fact, the more compact V-Amp2 does a better job at modeling.

Buying digital effects is just about the best way to "test drive" the tone you're seeking for. And once you find it, you'll know exactly what amp and pedals you want. I say go for it. Digital gets a lot of crap from tone snobs, yet many of those who swear that digital will never sound like analog won't be able to distinct the two via recording or even while plugged in.

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Post subject: Re: What do you think about using digital effects
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:47 am
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arth1 wrote:
I've never got the whole clone thing. Why not try to make something different, instead of an imperfect approximation of something? It's like buying Happy Cola and Dr. Skipper.


Apparently you've never built anything from Build Your Own Clone. BYOC doesn't give you an approximation. I have built clones of pedals that I've owned and regrettably sold in the past and these things are seriously right on the money. I've built a clone of a Mutron Octave Divider that I sold a few years ago and it's scary how dead on it is. It's anything but imperfect. I had the original for almost 20 years. Same thing with a clone I made of an Ibanez Flying Pan. Sounds like the original and better than the reissue. BYOC uses high quality components and NOS transistors, IC's and their boards are first rate. I just finished a clone of a Ross Compressor last night and it sounds great. BYOC also has a clone of the Klon Centaur which is a great copy of the original. The beauty of clones is you CAN modify them. It's a stepping stone. Another great company is MOD Kits DIY. their designs are original and sound great and can easily be modded because all of their kits are wired true point to point. There is no PCB involved in any of their products. I built a pedal from General Guitar Gadgets, but I don't find the quality that great and also quite a few parts were missing. Out of all the pedal kits, I think BYOC and MOD Kits are about the best out there. Plus you learn how these things work. Nothing wrong with learning. I have another amp kit coming today. It's designed around a Marshall 1974x. No, I'm sure it won't sound exactly like a Marshall, but I'm modding it with a switchable solid state rectifier. But then again, how many original amplifiers were modded to suit the musician?

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