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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:39 pm
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It doesn't matter to me so much, the only downside i can see is if the neck breaks on the jointed you would have a hard time replacing it in comparison to a bolt on.

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Leo Fender designed the Stratocaster(and Tele) with a bolt on neck for ease of manufacture, and ease of service and repair. It is a good system. Gibson designed their guitars differently, with different goals in mind. BC Rich prefers a neck thru design. Also, differing in tone and sound. Ain't it nice that they are all different?? It is all about coupling. The ability of the guitar to transfer vibration energy. To make it sustain, and sound musical. As we have noted, it can be done many ways. Look at Steinberger.


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Slap some Liquid Nail in your neck pocket and

voila!

your Strat becomes a Set Neck!

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Orville, you da man. Good for a lough.

But re Liquid Nails, you best be sure that neck is lined up real good 'fore that squat sets hard.

Personally, could not care less how it's all put togeterr, as long as it's harmonious in the end.


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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:51 am
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Yesterday I played a mahogany, set-neck Gibson SG with burstbuckers back-to-back against a Fender American Strandard Strat (alder, maple) through a Champ 600. First, picking up the SG and just playing it, the sound was okay, but for a Strat player the Gibson is an awkward device. On the Gibson, the strings are raised really high above the body and the neck seems clunky. The neck just doesn't fall to hand like with the Strat. Maybe the radius is different? Also, the controls on the Gibson SG are more complicated, and confusing since I'm not used to them. The tone is really night and day. Playing naked through a Champ 600, the Gibson SG has a much more metal or hard tone. The SG really overdrove the little amp and got that characteristic hard-rock sound. The Strat was just pure, clear, sweet musical Fender. With a Strat, you'd need a pedal with the 600. In terms of sustain - playing plenty of Blues vibrato that's all sustain based - I noticed no difference.

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An SG has more complicated controls?

Must be what you're used to I guess. They're pretty straight forward--volume & tone for each pickup (on most models) & a pickup selector for neck, bridge or both pickups.

The Strat with 3 pickups & 3 knobs is more complicated, really.

Although neither is rocket science.

Must be what you're used to.

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Sure, it's what I'm used to, of course. I've played Strats for years and years, or like an Ibanez knock-off long ago, and so I'm very familiar with them. Still, the SG's got two pickups, but four knobs plus a switch. Then, I'm like asking the music guys, are the top knobs volume or tone and they are like, "we don't know." One of the guys could really play the hell out of it, too, but maybe he just kept everything on "10" all the time. Imho, I don't need a separate volume for each pickup. Simpler is just better to me. So, it's what I'm used to, definitely, and it's a barrier to playing Gibsons because Les Pauls especially have a lot of unfamiliar knobs and switches and very different necks. To me, the Strat is just intuitive and never gets in the way. It's a real dance partner in making music, with sustain that had no perceptible difference played brutally clean through a little Champ 600 with no reverb. Played back-to-back you can hear that the SG does not have the peerless, sweet musical Fender tone. On the other hand, the Strat did not overdrive that little Champ and get that Gibson tone either. So I can see why people like to cover the bases with both the Gibson and the Fender. Even though the SG felt cumbersome to me compared to the elegant Strat, I'm still interested in it because it does have a very nice and deep double cutaway, the price is right, it looks good with the aged cherry paint, and if not played right up against a Strat it sounds pretty good but with a more hard rock sound. So I'm not bashing the SG, but in my opinion and that's all it is the Strat is just a more elegant design and really falls to hand.

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My first electric was a Les Paul copy--so I'm used to that set up.
But I've gotten used to the Mustang set up as well.

But it is what you're used to.
And what you enjoy playing.

So it's a good thing there are so many different types of guitars.

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JSJH wrote:
But re Liquid Nails, you best be sure that neck is lined up real good 'fore that squat sets hard.


Of course, that is a very good suggestion. Also, I wouldn't forget to put the screws back in after squirting the Liquid Nails into the pocket. It never hurts to double up.

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I think the les paul sustain owes more to the woods used rather than a glued in neck and that if anything glue detracts from the resonance. I think if fender made a mahogany maple capped strat bolt on it with 500/498T pickups it would leave the lespaul standing in resonance and have a next to unusable neck pickup sound too. I had a jackson soloist with a maple neck through an alder body. It didnt sustain like a lespaul and didnt sound as dark.

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